Daniel Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 hi all. So I'm building an army of Death. I want it to be a bit Lahmian themed of old. As a leader, I am opting for the Coven Throne (because, you know, female vampires!) and as a core, I love myself a whole heap of Zombies. But I also kind of like the giant undead bat-thing-what's-its-name as well as skeletons. The thing is: I like stuff from Soulblight, Deathrattlers, deadwalkers AND nighthaunt... If I want everything present in my army, is that at all possible? How would I be limiting myself if I want to use everything? Is such a thing even allowed, or do I need to stick to one of the above mentioned in order to build an army? I need to know, cause I already ordered the Malignant Getting Started AoS box, and I want to know if I can just blindly add zombies and skeletons to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joycey Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 You can do a death army using everything in the death alliance so if you want to use a lot of zombies and skellys then you can. Just add in whatever you want from the death book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 So there is no downside in building an army like that? why did GW named groups of miniatures then, like Soulblight, Deathrattlers etc.? Feels a bit redundant :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 At present, none of the Death sub factions have unique traits, so you aren't missing anything… except for faction-specific battleline options. If you're down with blocks of skeletons, zombies, or ghouls, though - like the old days! - you'll do fine. That said, be aware that we don't know how these sub factions might change. There's no guarantee that they will continue to play well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Great stuff. Thanks all for the quick reply! I think I'll do all right with my big blobs of Zombies and Skeletons as core :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorPenguin Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Apart from Flesh Eater Courts death is a real mixed bag at the moment, I think you would struggle to build a full army out of anything but FEC and Deathrattle. Hopefully we will see some new books in the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxk Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Hi Guys, I am new to death aswell, maybe you can give me some inputs: I want to make a death army and would like to get some ideas how to round things up since I want to make this army because I really like some of the models of the death faction. Things I'd like to include: Morghasts Spirit Hosts Mortarch (most likely Neferata, but Arhan would be an option for 1k Point games) What are my options for Battleline? What I have read is that either Zombies or Skeleton Warriors are the most useable, but I dont want to add to much support to them, maybe a necromancer. I thought about getting the zombies but I fear that if I merge them to a big unit, I will have a very static army with the one big unit and elites (Morghasts and mortarch). So the idea is to field 2 Units of 10 Skeletons....what do you think about it? What other leader would be good to include, since the Mortarch cant use the Death artifacts..... Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Doesn't really matter Mortarchs can't use artifacts, right? They already brought their own :] And for Battleline: Morghasts and Spirit Hosts apparently ARE battleline units. Sooooo... :] Edit: Neferata, Mortarch Two Morghasts 10 Skeletons 3 Spirit hosts 3 Spirit hosts 1000 points exactly. Something Like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorPenguin Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 If you just need a battle line to fufil the requirements then skeletons probably need the least support. Zombies would be cheaper if you absolutely weren't planning on using them for anything significant. Vampires are able to buff all death units, so might be a good choice for another hero? Buff the Morghasts. VLOZD with the chalice and the ring of immortality is nuts, once it dies it is re set up with d3 wounds, then drinks the chalice to heal another d6 wounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craptrain Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 19 minutes ago, Daniel said: Doesn't really matter Mortarchs can't use artifacts, right? They already brought their own :] And for Battleline: Morghasts and Spirit Hosts apparently ARE battleline units. Sooooo... :] Edit: Neferata, Mortarch Two Morghasts 10 Skeletons 3 Spirit hosts 3 Spirit hosts 1000 points exactly. Something Like that? This list wouldn't be legal as morghasts are only battleline if you go full deathlords and spirit hosts are only battleline if you go full nighthaunt. You would be short one battleline choice. If you're mixing units from the subfactions, your battleline choices are skeletons, zombies, or ghouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 @Craptrain Aaah, so there IS something to the subfactions! Thanks, I learn something new everyday ;] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead4Life Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 As was stated, the futures of the subfactions are uncertain. They were named in anticipation of further development (fleshing-out *ba-dum tissss*) but as of now only the FEC have a legitimate Battletome. In my opinion, however, you can't go wrong with Skeletons and Zombies. If you aren't planning on having a giant block of either be integral to your battle plan, purchasing thirty of one or the other will see you through the battle line requirements up through 2499 points. I'm in the same sort of boat as OP; I really want to do Soulblight but don't really know how to plan for it except for getting all my Vamp hero ducks in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardyface Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Hi Daniel I'm in the same place just starting a death army. The Heelan Hammer guys did a great podcast this month on prepping a force that's worth a listen. I always try and apply the following: 1. 2 units that pose serious combat threat. This could be a Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon, Mourngal, Morghasts, etc. 2. For death armies try to include a few characters so you can spread them out and benefit from the allegiance abilities. 3. Think about threat range. We lack shooting so have to make up for it with speed or summoning. We have lots of fast flying troops to jump over blockers and threaten enemy backlines/objectives. Summoning is also very useful. Morghast Harbringers can be summoned within 18'' and charge 3D6'' in the same turn to pile on pressure. Magic is also are best range. Arkhan's Curse of Years spell can wipe out any unit and many death spells buff or cause lots of pain. 4. Try loads of combinations and see what works for you. Nothing beats games under your belt. I tend to start with models I think look cool and then gradually tailor in stuff to make the lists better. The joy of summoning means we can potentially take nearly all models in any game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 Thanks @Beardyface ! Some useful stuff there I'll check that Heelan Hammer podcast out for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverline Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm likewise just about to dive into building a Death army, though I'm drawn to pure Soulblight - Blood Dragons were always one of those WHFB armies I wanted to build but never got around to, and starting AoS seems to be a great place to finally do so! Some good advice in here, I'll be sure to check out that podcast myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoking Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I run an all Soulblight army and it's the dogs danglies. Hard hitting,super fast and super survivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverline Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, discoking said: I run an all Soulblight army and it's the dogs danglies. Hard hitting,super fast and super survivable. The idea of an 11-model-army at 1000pts does give me the warm and fuzzies, even if it will struggle with silly little things like "objectives"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoking Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Silverline said: The idea of an 11-model-army at 1000pts does give me the warm and fuzzies, even if it will struggle with silly little things like "objectives"... You just kill everything holding the objectives,job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverline Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, discoking said: You just kill everything holding the objectives,job done That's the idea I'm running with! Wife is also about to start AoS, with Sylvaneth, which should be all sorts of horrifying to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxk Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just wanted to keep you up to date: today at my local store there was a bargain box and i got completly new sprues for 40 skeleton warriors! for 10 euros :DDD I also have a pair of morghasts....i think ill run the skeleton as a block of 30 and 10 and get a necromancer and wight king, so im on 800 poits as a start! with some spirit host, im at 1k points....I kinda like that list now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Yeah, Necromancers, Wight Kings (bring the Infernal Standard) and Vampire Lords are all kinds of awesome. If you run Neferata, you'll want to use her as your general, since her command ability is one of the best. If you like Skeletons, look into the Legion of Death formation and Tomb Heralds, Liche Priests and Necrotects from the Tomb Kings compendium. Those characters are absolutely awesome for Deathrattle units, and you can convert them for your army rather easily. Good luck with your army! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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