Malakithe Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Being new to Death stuff I need some opinions. I have part of a list but need help on the rest. So far I'm thinking... Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440) Vampire Lord (140) Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) Mortis Engine x 1 (180) Mortis Engine x 1 (180) So that's 1420. Skeletons are the obvious objective holders or tarpit or whatever. Vamp Lord will be flying around supporting whoever with spell debuff and the VLoZD will be flanked by the 2 engines creating a bubble of tanky healing death. So I'm left with 580pts. I was thinking maybe another beastie? 1 behemoth spot left. Maybe a mortarch for more spells? Maybe fill the rest of the points with lots of spirit hosts? A mourngul? I have no idea...also is 20 skellies ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead4Life Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I find that the VLoAT is wonderful for what you pay in points. It's a good bully unit and its spell can get that dragon where it needs to be pronto. That would leave enough points for Arkhan the Black as well, if'n ya wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos Ares Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Only issue with VLoAT is it'll be unusable to certain tourneys due to being 'legacy' Waaagh! Skullcrack iz comin fer ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos Ares Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Otherwise it's an auto include as it's badass!!!! Waaagh! Skullcrack iz comin fer ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Spirit hosts go really well with the VLoZD as his command ability really ups their damage output and his signature spell is kind of lame so he can always drop a Mystic Shield on them for that 3+ unrendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Morghast.... yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutek Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Spirit Hosts, either type of Morghasts and a Necromancer to give another wizard.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 So I'm seeing spirit hosts and morghast. I was thinking them...now how many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSDdeloach Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 5 hours ago, Malakithe said: Being new to Death stuff I need some opinions. I have part of a list but need help on the rest. So far I'm thinking... Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440) Vampire Lord (140) Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) Mortis Engine x 1 (180) Mortis Engine x 1 (180) So that's 1420. Skeletons are the obvious objective holders or tarpit or whatever. Vamp Lord will be flying around supporting whoever with spell debuff and the VLoZD will be flanked by the 2 engines creating a bubble of tanky healing death. So I'm left with 580pts. I was thinking maybe another beastie? 1 behemoth spot left. Maybe a mortarch for more spells? Maybe fill the rest of the points with lots of spirit hosts? A mourngul? I have no idea...also is 20 skellies ok? Personally, I'd probably add in some big hitty ******. LeadersTomb Banshee (80)UnitsMorghast Harbingers x 2 (240)Morghast Harbingers x 2 (240) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yeah I was thinking something similar. A big group of morghast or mourngul. Leaning to the morghast thou. A unit of 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Khadric Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yep definitely some Morghast Archai. They eat large infantry units and monsters for breakfast. Skellies are good, I've been taking a unit of 10 spearmen as a support/bodyguard unit and I've never lost the unit, they tar-pit and come back. My next big build is adding a Legion of Death battalion to my army. In units of 20 they now have 2 attacks each, necromancer casts van hels on them so they pile in and attack twice. Wight King or Vamp Lord command ability gives them an extra attack! Elite! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Hmm...the necro model says no longer available on the website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inunn Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It might be worth considering using vargheists instead of morghasts. A unit of 3 vargheists has the same number of attacks as morghast harbingers with an almost identical weapon profile. They're faster (12" vs 9") but have a worse save (5+ vs 4+). The thing that swings it for me though is the fact that they cost 160 points for 3 vs 240 for 2 morghasts, which is a pretty big difference. And in terms of value for money you can use the flesh eater courts start collecting set to make your Vampire Lord on Zombie dragon and Vargheists, which is probably cheaper than buying VLoZD and Morghasts separately. I've already got some Morghasts built as harbingers, and I think they're really great, possibly the best unit I own. But when I next expand my army I'm probably going to have a go at using vargheists instead because 80 points is a pretty nice bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Oh wow I didn't know that. The flesh eaters comes with all VLoZD parts? And 3 Vargheists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Now if only there was a way to get cheap skeletons and 2 mortis engines lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inunn Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 11 hours ago, Malakithe said: Oh wow I didn't know that. The flesh eaters comes with all VLoZD parts? And 3 Vargheists? Yeah it comes with the complete sprue which includes all the parts for any of: abhorrent on terrorgheist abhorrent on zombie dragon vampire lord on zombie dragon Or either of the two monsters without riders. Similarly the crypt horrors sprue can be built as crypt horrors, crypt flayers or vargheists. They don't break up the sprues so that you can only build the units listed on the box. It's like a secret Start Collecting! Soulblight haha. Can't do much else with the crypt ghouls though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yeah that helps. Even if I include 6 I still have a good chunk of points leftover for whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 On 09/14/2016 at 5:46 PM, Malakithe said: Hmm...the necro model says no longer available on the website... I think it just got the 32mm upgrade. Going to grab one and replace the head with a skull!! BAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Ok how about this... Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440) - General - Deathlance & Shield & Chalice - Artefact : Cloak of Mists and Shadows - Command Trait : Ruler of the Night Cairn Wraith (60) Vampire Lord (140) UNITS Mortis Engine x 1 (180) Mortis Engine x 1 (180) Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) - Ancient Spear & Crypt or Tomb Shield Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) - Ancient Spear & Crypt or Tomb Shield Skeleton Warriors x 20 (160) - Ancient Spear & Crypt or Tomb Shield Spirit Hosts x 3 (120) MONSTERS Mourngul (400) 2000pts even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Could drop the spirit hosts for 2 more cairn wraith for ward save coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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