Stack mystic shield

[Grimoriano]

Can Arkhan cast it 3 times on himself? For example, to nullify a -3 rend attack.

Thanks.

[Liquidsteel]

On 8/21/2021 at 6:40 PM, Fert said:

They do not, because abilities that have the same title cannot stack.  For example, Grundstok thunderers have fumigators with an ability called Choking Fug that gives a -1 to hit bubble within 3" of a model with a fumigator.  If you are within 2 fumigator it is still only a -1.  However, an aether khemist has an ability called Atmospheric Isolation that gives a -1 to hit bubble within 3".  This ability will stack with the fumigator as it is two distinct abilities.

Unless you can provide the core rule for abilities not being able to stack, then this is not correct.

The reason the fumigator doesn't stack is because of the way it's worded, it's simply a check if enemy models are within range and then the effect is applied.

You can stack Mystic Shield. You can cast debuff spells such as Overwhelming Dread or Fading Vigour and if they proc twice from Locus of Shyish, you are free to resolve the effect for a second time on the same unit, providing -2 to Hit / Attacks respectively.

[Fert]

On 8/23/2021 at 7:40 AM, Liquidsteel said:

Unless you can provide the core rule for abilities not being able to stack, then this is not correct.

The reason the fumigator doesn't stack is because of the way it's worded, it's simply a check if enemy models are within range and then the effect is applied.

You can stack Mystic Shield. You can cast debuff spells such as Overwhelming Dread or Fading Vigour and if they proc twice from Locus of Shyish, you are free to resolve the effect for a second time on the same unit, providing -2 to Hit / Attacks respectively.

You are correct!  Thank you!  I latched onto that fug and isolation a little to hard.  Nothing in the ruleset or errata prevents abilities from "stacking". 

That is actually really good stuff right there!   I do feel that unless you know your about to get pounded by rend 2 or 3 (not too often), spreading the mystic shields will likely get you more mileage tactically.  It's all situationally of course, but mystic shield plus AoD is usually suffices to shrug the very common rend 1.

[schwabbele]

You could stack this:

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In most cases, modifiers are
cumulative. However, some
dice rolls, such as hit and
wound rolls, will specify that
the roll cannot be modified
by more than +1 or -1. When
this is the case, add up all the
modifiers that apply, and if
the total is more than +1 or -1,
treat it as being either +1 or -1
as appropriate

but not with mystic shield: ( as long as arkhan has no special tricks which would allow that )

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In your hero phase, you can attempt to cast spells with friendly
Wizards. You cannot attempt to cast the same spell more than once in
the same hero phase, even with a different Wizard.

 

[Fert]

And it doesn't matter anymore... Arkhan just lost his ability to cast multiple Mystic Shields per faq.

[Fert]

3 hours ago, Grimoriano said:

Can Arkhan cast it 3 times on himself? For example, to nullify a -3 rend attack.

Thanks.

They do not, because abilities that have the same title cannot stack.  For example, Grundstok thunderers have fumigators with an ability called Choking Fug that gives a -1 to hit bubble within 3" of a model with a fumigator.  If you are within 2 fumigator it is still only a -1.  However, an aether khemist has an ability called Atmospheric Isolation that gives a -1 to hit bubble within 3".  This ability will stack with the fumigator as it is two distinct abilities.