NeoSoul Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Sorry if this has been asked somewhere, I tried to search through other posts first. S2D is my 3rd army that I mainly got because I love some of the models (especially Varanguard and Archaon) and from a painting point of view. I'm trying to look at my options and find how to best complete my list for 2k with what I have or adding 1-2 purchases max. I would especially want to play my Archaon and my 9 Varanguards. I don't mind which allegiance but I think that Host of Everchosen is best for that. Archaon + 9 varanguard fills the battleline requirements and puts me at 1670/2000. I also have the following: 10x chaos warriors 5x chaos knights 1x Chaos Lord on Karkadrak Khagra's Ravagers 1x Chaos Lord 1x Chaos Sorcerer Lord My current thoughts would be to add in the Chaos Sorcerer Lord, Chaos Lord and buy one of the warbands (Untamed Beasts, Corvus Cabal or Spire Tyrants) but I don't know if the sorcerer lord is even that good now that his spell is basically an other mystic shield (or if it should be stacked over mystic shield to resist -1 rend?). Otherwise, I wonder if I should get an other box of Varanguard and play 12 of them but I'm afraid that I won't have enough heroes to make good use of command abilities. I like the Chaos Lord on Karkadrak but not sure how good he'd be in there and his command ability would be useless. I know Warshrines were very popular but with the way that they changed them with 3.0, I'm not sure if they're that important anymore. I would love to fit Be'Lakor in as I really like the model but it pushes it over 2k points unfortunately and I think I heard that he could no longer be taken with Archaon but I missed the reason for it. Any input would be appreciated. I also wanted to double check, it seems like 3.0 says that Archaon is now considered a general in the other 4 god specific allegiances but not under S2D (I'm asking because I'm trying to figure out if there would be a way for me to have say Chaos Lord on Karkadrak as the general with universal enhancements and 2 strong auras while running Host of the Everchosen or if, as I understand it, Archaon absolutely needs to be the general there to unlock all of the special features). Edited July 19, 2021 by NeoSoul Didn't proofread and repeated some parts of sentences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibob45 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I don't fill suited for most of your questions, so I will leave to more experienced S2D players, but regarding Belakor alongside Archeon, I believe the rule is only for Legions of the first prince subfaction. Errata on broken realms Belakor states that units with the Everchosen keyword cant be included. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Saw someone mention adding Lauchon (Endless Spell boatman) and have a Chaos Lord with Arcane Tome teleporting around to keep Archaon fighting twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oggurt_da_bog_zombie Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Eldarain said: Saw someone mention adding Lauchon (Endless Spell boatman) and have a Chaos Lord with Arcane Tome teleporting around to keep Archaon fighting twice. This sounds... interesting. Link? How would this work exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annarborhawk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, oggurt_da_bog_zombie said: This sounds... interesting. Link? How would this work exactly? I'm thinking Archaon, 3x3 varanguard, and 3x5 marauder horseman to screen, cap objectives, etc. That would make for a mobile hard-hitting list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 hours ago, oggurt_da_bog_zombie said: This sounds... interesting. Link? How would this work exactly? Lauchon the Soulseeker allows you to move a wizard 18" plus placement. Arcane Tome makes a hero a wizard. Chaos Lord is a fantastic piece to let Archaon and Varanguard inflict even more pain but struggles to keep up. So this let's him fly up to where they are and be in position to apply that fight twice buff. And you get the added utility of him being a 1 cast/1 dispel wizard If I was doing a Host I'd start at Archaon and 6 Varanguard probably all in one unit. A Chaos Lord with Arcane Tome and 1-2 Sorceror Lords (Daemonic Power and Oracular Visions are amazing!) And the Soulseeker. Fill the list out with nuisances. Horsemen for screening. Chariots for tagging Everchosen/Varanguard victims on the far side to mess up pile ins. Golems to survive as they're BS immune too in this subfaction. Shackles to delay where the murderers aren't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoSoul Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, Eldarain said: Lauchon the Soulseeker allows you to move a wizard 18" plus placement. Arcane Tome makes a hero a wizard. Chaos Lord is a fantastic piece to let Archaon and Varanguard inflict even more pain but struggles to keep up. So this let's him fly up to where they are and be in position to apply that fight twice buff. And you get the added utility of him being a 1 cast/1 dispel wizard If I was doing a Host I'd start at Archaon and 6 Varanguard probably all in one unit. A Chaos Lord with Arcane Tome and 1-2 Sorceror Lords (Daemonic Power and Oracular Visions are amazing!) And the Soulseeker. Fill the list out with nuisances. Horsemen for screening. Chariots for tagging Everchosen/Varanguard victims on the far side to mess up pile ins. Golems to survive as they're BS immune too in this subfaction. Shackles to delay where the murderers aren't. I looked at the warscroll because I wasn't familiar with this endless spell. It says that one model from the unit that rides it dies afterwards... and since the Chaos Lord is a single model in the unit, wouldn't it kill him if he were to use it to move around faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) @NeoSoul Most Endless Spells got reworked with the 3.0 update. Facehammer has a video going over them. Edited July 19, 2021 by Eldarain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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