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Be'lakor in other chaos god armees ally or no ally?


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I've recognized in the warscroll builder that I can choose Belakor as a Hero in my Nurgle allegiance armee and that I can give him a daemon spell out of the nurgle lore too. 

Is this a bug or can Belakor due to his "favored by all 4 chaos gods" be taken in other chaos gods armees without counting as ally? 

If so, he can use the daemon nurgle spell lore too? Because every wizard in a nurgle Armee can choose one spell with the specific keyword of mortal, rotbringer or daemon.

But the wording is like the wizard don't need to have the nurgle keyword himself? Only need to be part of the nurgle armee? 

Thank you for clarification :)

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53 minutes ago, Zplash said:

I've recognized in the warscroll builder that I can choose Belakor as a Hero in my Nurgle allegiance armee and that I can give him a daemon spell out of the nurgle lore too. 

Is this a bug or can Belakor due to his "favored by all 4 chaos gods" be taken in other chaos gods armees without counting as ally? 

If so, he can use the daemon nurgle spell lore too? Because every wizard in a nurgle Armee can choose one spell with the specific keyword of mortal, rotbringer or daemon.

But the wording is like the wizard don't need to have the nurgle keyword himself? Only need to be part of the nurgle armee? 

Thank you for clarification :)

He is an Ally because he doesn't have the "Nurgle" Keyword.

And "being part of a nurgle army", means "having the nurgle allegiance".

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FACTIONS
Many units also owe allegiance
to a faction that is part of one of
the Grand Alliances. For example,
Stormcast Eternals are a faction of
the Order Grand Alliance.
An army can have allegiance to a
faction instead of a Grand Alliance
if all the units in the army have the
keyword for that faction, including
any units that you assign a keyword
to during set-up. For example, if
all of the units in an army have the
Stormcast Eternal keyword,
then the army can have allegiance to
the Stormcast Eternals faction, and
would be referred to as a Stormcast
Eternal army.

So these points are against Belakor getting a spell.

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ALLIES
One out of every four units included
in an army can be an allied unit.
Allied units are treated as part of
your army, except that they are not
included when working out your
army’s allegiance, and can therefore
be part of a different Grand Alliance
or faction. In addition, an allied
model cannot be the army’s general,
and cannot use or benefit from your
army’s allegiance abilities.
The factions that an army can ally
with can be found in its battletome,
or with its Pitched Battle Profiles in
the current edition of the General’s
Handbook. For example, a Stormcast
Eternal army can have allies from
any other Order faction.

Plus these points of the Corebook FAQ

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Q: Some spell and prayer allegiance abilities say that they can
be used by Wizards or Priests in the army. Does this include
allied Wizards or Priests?
A: No. Allied models cannot use or benefit from
allegiance abilities.

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Q: Can allied Heroes be given artefacts of power, and can
allied Wizards be given spells from a spell lore?
A: No to both questions.

 

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3 hours ago, EMMachine said:

He is an Ally because he doesn't have the "Nurgle" Keyword.

And "being part of a nurgle army", means "having the nurgle allegiance".

So these points are against Belakor getting a spell.

Plus these points of the Corebook FAQ

 

Sad but I thought that would be the correct way. 

So the warscroll builder is wrong there. Maybe due to the daemon prince name tag. 

Thanks for the detailed explanation. 

I knew that allys can't have allegiance abilities or lore spells but wasn't sure is belakor needs to be an ally or not :)

Hoped for a special rule in his case :D

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