Malakithe Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nikobot said: @ Mayple Are you sure that it applies to all the attacks of a particular weapon? e.g. all 2D6 attacks of a ratling gun? Hmm...well the 2D6 is the amount of attacks...then each of those attacks is rolled for and treated separate, each dealing 1dmg. So I dont see why it wouldnt work on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Also anyone know if Forgeworld stuff is included? Id like to see some points drop for a certain warlord on brood horror... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikobot Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 well, the old version didn't work on it.. it only doubled the damage of 1 successful attack... which is why people used it on mortars and not ratling guns. I haven't seen the wording on the new one version which is why I am asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathmaster Snikch Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Nikobot said: well, the old version didn't work on it.. it only doubled the damage of 1 successful attack... which is why people used it on mortars and not ratling guns. I haven't seen the wording on the new one version which is why I am asking Yep, it'll just be add 1 to a successful attack instead of double it so doesn't really change the rattling gun if that's the case Ive seen Eshin and Moulder and some drops, though for Skryre that quite a big nerf (RIP PWM). Most importantly for Skaven is definitely the new generic chaos artefacts for the crown. They showed it in a preview last week, it's now you're immune to battleshock if you're within 6" of a hero with that artefact. That artefact is screaming for a deathrunner, who's already -1 to shoot before look out sir. Will definitely be the right way to play Skaven moving forwards competitively though I will miss my warpstone sparks makin mortars do 12 damage. Really keen to see stormvermin points, was hoping for a drop in nightrunners but alas...haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayple Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, Nikobot said: well, the old version didn't work on it.. it only doubled the damage of 1 successful attack... which is why people used it on mortars and not ratling guns. I haven't seen the wording on the new one version which is why I am asking I believe so. The new wording is different from the current wording, and specifies 'Increase a weapon's damage characteristic by 1 when it makes a succesful attack' - as opposed to 'for a succesfull attack' Although, mind that I'm paraphrasing, and might be wrong due to blurry text. It is visible in the first video preview for bell of lost souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikobot Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The wording is "Add 1 to the Damage characteristic of a weapon used by a friendly SKRYRE model that has made a successful attack." Just caught it from BOLS https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=530&v=d5dPQlBw8PI To me that seems like Mayple is right Resolve your attacks and work out if any hit, if any are successful and result in hits then you can choose to add 1 Damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathmaster Snikch Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, Nikobot said: The wording is "Add 1 to the Damage characteristic of a weapon used by a friendly SKRYRE model that has made a successful attack." Just caught it from BOLS https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=530&v=d5dPQlBw8PI To me that seems like Mayple is right Resolve your attacks and work out if any hit, if any are successful and result in hits then you can choose to add 1 Damage. Yeah that video was way too hard to get a good look at but even so we’ll know soon enough. I’d rather increase the weapons damage but I severely doubt it. Damage 3 Jezzails yes please! Not a chance they’d let us do that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikobot Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 It looked clear to me. I put it on high res and paused it at the right spot to get a clear look and that's the wording. So Mayple was correct. You can have a damage 3 jezzail, but that's only for 1 model and they only have 1 attack. Best to use it on multi attack models to reap the benefit of the new wording like combat stormfiends, ratling guns, maybe doomflayers etc. Can you imagine shock gauntlet stormfiends with their attacks splitting into multiple hits that deliver 3 damage each! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayple Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 @Nikobot My thoughts exactly. Units to look out for in the new edition, as far as improvements go, will be Ratling guns and Shock gauntlets. I was already on the fence of going into a heavy ratling gunline in the current edition, so this might just be what nudges me into that Packmasters also look like they got a point drop. *Cough* Go go Stormfiends *Cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 That sounds pretty good...how do allies work now? I keep hearing mixed things. Packmaster allies for Skryre allegiance rattling cannon stormfiends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 One of the issues I see with mixed Skaven is a lack of command points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayple Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Malakithe said: That sounds pretty good...how do allies work now? I keep hearing mixed things. Packmaster allies for Skryre allegiance rattling cannon stormfiends? With 60 points (from what I could tell) cost for packmasters, that would be a natural inclusion. Their buff would probably still only work in combat phase though. Shock gauntlets all the way. 2 hours ago, Malakithe said: One of the issues I see with mixed Skaven is a lack of command points We can easily spare 50 or 100 pts for some command points. With the new cunning deceiver being geared towards command points as well, we won't be lacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Mayple said: We can easily spare 50 or 100 pts for some command points. With the new cunning deceiver being geared towards command points as well, we won't be lacking What is this 'Cunning Deceiver' you speak of? And I didnt know buying command points was a thing..good to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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