Barkanaut

It looks too high tech to be ko likely 40k.

No I'm simply saying in an ideal world the KO's competitive lists would feature 2-3 ships and I hope to see them address this in a big update to make them worth actually taking. Right now though it would certainly be a casual list. Also my meta is hyper competitive and almost never does casual AoS stuff so I have a lot riding on them fixing my army.

Seeing the ko points decreases for boats I think they are all non-viable. The models are too big and get targeted from everywhere to be this frail and have so little firepower. On top of this good luck trying to carry 4-6 ships around without them breaking lol let alone a painted army. Our models simply don’t support s horde playstyle and I am disappointed in GW for still ignoring us. With the other small units like grundstock and balloon boys drop I doubt anyone will take more boats lol. KO desperately need a big 2.0 update and new units to truly make them shine. A dedicated combat boat no transport capacity is needed big time. On top of that existing boats need reworks not points drops lol. They need to bring more shots to be worth it and the frigate and especially the Ironclad need better saves. I like to imagine a fluffy army is 2-3 boats + supporting infantry and other units I want to see this style of list be competitive since it’s why I got into KO not infantry.

Even at those costs I don’t think any of them are worth it. The problem is their absolute anemic firepower and huge size meaning they can get shot from everywhere. The boats need a complete rework and overhaul to make them viable. They could cost the Frigate at 140 and while great who is going to paint and haul around a horde army of boats? KO models are large, awkward, and tons of fiddle bits. We simply can’t be a horde army and we clearly weren’t designed to be. I have to hold out hope for a 2.0 ko overhaul because this is still an army with huge issues and it feels like GW continues to ignore us for years and years I’m about ready to quit and sell them off lol.

I remain skeptical a points drop will make ko viable.

Oh no. Man Trump is even messing up AoS and 40k. Messing with politics is one thing, but messing with paints and models is another! The madman has to be stopped.

Yeah sure here.

Yes everyone loves my painting and its probably equal to or slightly better than the box art painting or so I've been told. I'm a bit of a slow painter though but I don't think that slow lol.

How can people not buy many many pots of paint a year? I mean I go through my main colours like crazy and am using a wet pallet. Yeah secondary colours like edge highlights last longer but I usually replace those at least once a year too.

Man if those changes are real ko still rip. Or if tournament players think a minor points decrease makes them better when everything else goes down. Then it didn’t get buffed lol. How many times do I have to say that.

Don’t forget skaven drained an entire sea lol causing an entire enclave to be wiped out. Can’t drain the air from the realms or ark least they haven’t found a way yet but the gobbos did take over a lesser port and turned it grotbag settlement.

I totally agree wth this. AoS is losing lots of its uniqueness and becoming too much fantasy. If we see another old character return to lead the death army it’s basically over. At this point we’re getting more fantasy releases compared to AoS ones. No new characters, no truly new armies, and almost no new lore or books for the new characters or new armies. No book about the heroics of Brokk from the KO or High King Volturnos. These are huge major players and all they have is some small blurbs in their dexes. The way new armies get treated in AoS you would think we’re the bad ones for liking AoS for what it was and supporting it when no one else liked it. Where the hell were all the fantasy fans back in the day if they cared so much about it?

Well I think we’ll see KO with the next wave of tomes. I hope so much.

Where can I see the full set?

News from warhammer fest.

I meant for the Kharadron Overlords.

Only 4 more tomes this year and 1 for each GA. The odds of us getting anything is now incredibly unlikely. So here is to another year of suck my brothers. I’m getting some seriously bad vibes about our armies future and GW supporting or even acknowledging its problems.

Well another 1.5 years of suckage if there are 4 tones left for the year my brothers. It’s like GW loves us to suffer incredibly.

Ah I am nit disappointed because I know GW’s lame preview events now. It’s always better to wait and get sleep and read it all,afte.

Calling it here the shadow thing is another stormcast faction. The resemblance is simply too uncanny but with snakes and scorpions.

KO suck and might not be this year as they need a huge rework and way more than just 3 spells, a hero, and terrain to get them up to 2.0 standards. Their model range is cripplingly focused on only one playstyle and its terrible at even that shooting. I'm hoping the KO get a bit more than that like 1 or 2 more models/units + hero/terrain/endless spells to give them some playstyle options like more mobile or more melee focused builds. Mere points reductions isn't going to cut it either lol as the models are simply too badly designed from a warscroll perspective. And even if they made them worth the cost I don't want to haul around like 10+ frigates and boats that are super hard to pack as it is. I was always under the impression the KO were kind of a quasi-elite army that had a few super strong things like their boats and then had the rest rank and file. Right now though its more like a horde army and I can need to bring almost as much horde/infantry stuff than GG lol.

Right but this is AoS it won’t be typical pirates lol. They amp up the high fantasy lots.

I’m fairly certain we’re getting a new death army. I hope it’s Luthor and his pirates but expect it to be something else with the previews seen. Who knows though.

There are rumors AoS is catching up to 40k in its yearly sales. I think it’s obvious AoS is the better product at this point. A business does not support a failing or less successful product like this. It’s pretty clear AoS is becoming their a product while 40k is the b product. It also helps the creative freedom allowed in AoS is awesome. Right now AoS has more armies in it than 40k lol. 40k is so stagnant the grogs flip out if you try add any new lore or army they like the exact same thing being sold to them over and over and over again with minor updates. They treat 40k like it’s a sculpture that should never be messed with lol.

I had so much hope for 40k once. It seems like everyone gets what they want except xenos. None of the major wants were ever listened too for orks lol except the buggy. No truly new xenos factions either everything is a boring sub-faction release. Sigmar is getting interesting new factions left right and center. New Primaris lore destroyed my Deathwatch crew lore and with xenos so irrelevant to the setting I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before Deathwatch will have to be redesigned to fight chaos more. It would take a holy miracle to get me to care about nu-40k again.