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It's strange, some of the SCE kits (mainly 3 bowgun dudes, the artillery piece and the lady on the lion drake) have scenic bases. Also four of the Banshee. There is a picture of the 3 other lion drake without such scenic base... Also the new Cairn Wraith have apparently normal and mask+sword option. And the Black coach "rider" also has two face options, it seems.

Probably, they are also the same models that the ones on the artwork with Sacrosanct SCE fighting Nighthaunts. So as @Chikout mentioned above, it's confirmed (99.99% ??) that their will be a new Starter Set : I guess it will be called "Soul Wars" too (as @LLV said), and I prey to the Pantheon that it will include the hardback Core Book (just like Dark Imperium). And I must say, 200 pages of fluff, maps of the Realms and new artworks really bring unbridled joy to my heart after this amazing Saturday on the models side. I'm looking forward to the daily articles about the new edition (add that to the Malign Portents stories ) and to see the Mortarch Of Grief, oh and to hear more about Forge World AOS, @RuneBrush ! Happy, expensive, joyful times ...

Save it from Nagash ?

The seminar starts in 10 minutes. Just sayin' I'm fine. Totally fine.

GREAT ! Also Stormcast Warmacine kinda confirmed ? Can't wait 11PM !!!

OMG HYPE HYPE HYPE ❤️

I have read the RPG books about the Slaught and frankly they look nothing like the Rogue Trader Mutants... The creatures have more Nurgle themes than anything else, even if they can be Lost and the Damned "undivided" Mutants / or Dark Mechanicum. Really the robots looks like Poxwalker, the little creatures are variations on Nurgling, Maggots, and Flies straight outta the Pusygoyle Blightlords and Typhus kits (even the same paint scheme). Distended, open guts, pustul, maggots (one spiting vomit like Bloab's steed), flies and insectoid / chaotic mutations - that's very Nurgle. And GW wouldn't make a starter that isn't Chaos / Imperium right - details found in both 40k and AOS ! BTW with the maggot we'll get AT LONG LAST a "Tamurkhan : true form" model available ;D

Sorry @Thebiggesthat but it's more because the website was under maintenance yesterday and that mountain picture is probably a default mode setting ?? Hope I'm wrong tho ! Cant' wait for today's MP story, hope it will give us some hint for tomorrow !

Well I was worried that Rogue Trader game would come next month and obscure the AOS news but it's for late 2018

White Dwarf leaks, probably June (or July). It's the new boxed game : "Kill Team : Rogue Traders" (probably like necromunda : a "2D" board game version, and a rule book with "3D" rules). Second picture here : https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/330/752823.page There is lots of free people and mostly Nurgle Deamons and Skirmish conversion potential. The big fly is straight out the Pusgoyle Blightlords kit !

I thought the same and I hope so !!!

So, is the website working again ? What happened ? ?

It's more news than rumors but DID SOMEONE WATCHED THE TWITCH SHOW ABOUT "EXPLORING AQSHY" ? If I get a twitch account can I see it back in the archive ?

@Gaz Taylor okay, Prediction Game ! I think we'll see : 1. Magic supplement teaser, with Wizcasts and Magic scenery 2. Nighthaunt army teaser ... Then, there is the Magic book with magic scenery AND a new Starter set rumored. So the 2 new armies may be just the Starter. Or the Wizcasts are only in the Magic book (instead of getting a fourth Battletome). And IMO "the portents unfold" means the soul wars, aka Nighthaunt vs Wizcasts and big magic conflagration across the Mortal Realms. Or maybe not. IDK AH MY HEAD

Going by the Soul Wars cover, they will look better yeah (the way Adeptus Custodes looks better than marines)

IMO that'd be more : 1. Magic supplement / Magic scenery (Etheric Vortex) - June 2018 2. AOS 2 / Big FAQ / New Starter about Soul Wars and MP / Nighthaunt Army / Wizcats (Army ?) - July 2018 3. Moonclan - Fall 2018 4. Slaanesh - End 2018 5. Ironjawz / Sylvaneth / Idoneth (2nd waves) - Start 2019 6. Grotbag Scuttlers - 2019 Still rumored : Skavens, Darkoath. Note that 1 et 2 may be the same thing, and that the Stormcasts are maybe not a whole army...

Hmmm, intertesting ! The big FAQ and Soul Wars are confirmed for release in July, tho. A FAQ and a "new edition" ? And you mean expect to see at Warhammer fest ? I can't wait Saturday As @Chikout said, next month (so around 8th June) is Malign Portents AND magic according to the White Dwarf teaser.... Maybe new AOS will be starched of June and July ? But then, "end" of July.... I'm pretty excited, nice.

Hi, welcome ! Yeah as @RuneBrush (enjoy WF you lucky grot!!) it's probably going to be Stormcast Eternals against Nighthaunt. The Stormcast may be Wizards, so new models (not Extremis, IIRC, that's the Dragons guys). This novel, Soul Wars, by Josh Reynolds, is apparently about this new box set / narrative arc. You can see Nighthaunt and new Stormcast on the cover. So indeed Death vs Order We may get a teaser of the box this Saturday at Warhammer Fest !

Yes for the rules, I think But IMO Made to Order won't make them lots of money, because its 1. too few kits and 2. only one week. I like the concept but I think, even if its a bit "conceptual", that MTO is mostly for collectors, not tabletop gamers.

So. Great. That would make end 2018-2019 a very good year for Destruction, after Order-Chaos-Death And new "waves" would be perfect occasions to uptade old Battletomes like Ironjawz and (mostly) Sylvaneth !

As a table top game, WF is indeed "dead". It was not profitable, too expensive to get into, too much "time consuming" (in the hobby time and in play time), the regimental unites and square bases paradigme limited the possibilities of sculpting with new technology, and the nature of GW models manufacturing (i.e. the need of producing constant new releases) in a well established setting, even analogue to historical sometimes (because everything had quasi "canon" looks) was "limitative" in a way for the designers. All that made providing innovation in this context a very complexe task. But as a setting, WF is still alive and well ! It totally can and does coexist alongside WAOS (and it's awesome this way) : 1. WF is a great universes, with years of history ; this notably represented by BL Warhammer Chronicles. 2. WF is a fine product to licence, because of 1. the video game audience, while bigger and quite different (no "hobby" part, different "social skills" needed, etc.), is still close to the tabletop one (we nerdy geek ). GW can make good money with licensing because, literally, it costs them nothing but some lawyer fee and bring in tons of cash. Same for 40k, tho. 3. Because of its depth, WF was and still is a well established RPG setting ; it is only natural that for the "value for money" ratio, those kind of products still exists and prosper (thx Cubicle7). 4. Since day 1 in AOS, WF was also present with modern, up-to-date rules, in the Compendium 2015 and 2017, and in the GHb 2016 and 2017. Now it's being expanded with Warhammer Legends (and some 1 week-Made to Order service). But tabletop wise, for 4. WF lives in the AOS tabletop paradigm. So yes WF and WAOS as settings can coexist, and quite well already. Just remember that their was always way more people playing video games than tabletop games in general, and that the "hyper-narrative" players base who read Warhammer Chronicle and play WFRP are also different from the tabletop community (even if there is crossovers everywhere). Now, strictly tabletop speaking, GW has a new, paying strategy, involving WAOS and then 40k. The "hyper-narrative" side of AOS is also being expanded, with a RPG and IIRC some video games too. We get more cards in our hand every years to play in the worlds we like, let's just enjoy that way !

Excellent ! Thank you for the rumors ! (I know I already asked on Dakka, but do you have infos on the rumored Wizcast coming with Nighthaunt in the box set ? )

So, our friend @Thebiggesthat said on Dakka Dakka he believes 2018 will see army releases for Nighthaunt, Moonclan (Fungoid Cave-shaman) and (as rumored by other) Slaanesh. Nighthaunt and Slaanesh are IMO almost guaranteed at this point, but I really like the Moonclan bit - I also heard something like that (Moonclan in Fall 2018) somewhere else,, I'll try to look up where. "drbored" also said on Dakka Dakka that he heard : 1. six armies for AOS in 2018, 2. second Idoneth wave (lol) in 2019 (ala SCE Vanguard) with a big Whale, 3. Grotbag Scuttlers in 2019 too. I think the Grotbag Scuttlers (with their names and appearance in BT, White dward and novels) are a really good possibility in 2019 (also pic related).

Frankly, this. It's just what I tried to say in the Warhammer Legends thread, but better formulated. @Sheriff : 1. Nobody "tricked" you into buying anything. 2. Even if it made me giggle, let's stop with the Stormcast paranoia : for DE, GW recommended (logically) Daughters of Khaine or Idoneth Deepkin, nothing else. 3. As @KevenM said, GW didn't "squatted" anything. They gave new rules for DE (yeah, without points for the compendium). But did they even touched Scourge Privateer and the like ? No. So, even if you are playing with the 3 years old Orcs & Goblin compendium (and nobody can prevent you to do that), you can still play Gitmob, Greenskinz and Moonclan. Especially the later, with the rumors and their unique aesthetic, the Grot Scuttlings ans the Fungoid Cave-Shaman, they aren't going anywhere but a very probable future release updated for AOS. Back to the thread topic, I'd be interested to know : WHO IS GOING TO WARHAMMER FEST ? WHO ALREADY HAS THE WEEK END'S PLANNING ? (Just to know when the Preview seminar is scheduled, I guess Saturday evening )

I guess you are right. But GW just released for the third time a full rules update for an outdated army (Dark elves) for an unsupported game (WFB), for free, and people would call it low effort and low time ? That's not fair. GW could just have told us to use our old Dark Elves models as one of the many AOS factions using those models in the current timeline, aka Scourge Privateer and such, who have updated rules (including points) and a very good place in the fluff (notably in the novels and in the Free cities). Instead GW try to be nice to the old guard, and people get angry ? I find this situation a bit unfair... It seems like people don't want to adapt to the new setting. You don't even have to buy a new army (even if GW would like you to), or to really use the new fluff (like Scourge privateer), you just have to use the current rules for those Aelves factions from the current timeline but based on the old DE range. We are in the Age of Sigmar, not on the World-that-was : GW is IMO quite nice to support the WFB people who don't want to play with WFB rules and with AOS fluff (even without point ; the alternative would be to have nothing).