Clan's Cynic

Anvilgard being destroyed in a bit of universal spite towards Morathi would be hilarious. So much of the Great Parch going nuclear makes me a bit more optimistic we'll see a second Fyreslayer wave, particularly as it's a good excuse to have Robo-Bael in the fore. Dang, now I know how Destruction players who were optimistic about Era of the Beast felt...

My problem with Double Turn is that it's been the quickest way to turn people off the game. You mention it to potential new players and you can see the interest drain from their face once they're reminded it exists. It's continued inclusion also feels antithetical to AoS being pushed as more of a casual, relaxed, easier-to-get-into game; people will list those features as a great, low barrier to entry, and then with the next breath insist that Double Turn is awesome because it's this super in-depth tactical mechanic you always need to be worried about and playing against ahead of time and you'll totally get used to it after playing the game for months... which feels antithetical to the other points, or at least it comes off that way even if the reality is murkier.

Honestly with how they keep nerfing it every edition, it becomes increasingly clear that Double Turn is somebody important's baby and they just refuse to allow it to finally be removed outright.

Iirc that's what happened with Leviathan, so it seems a reasonable bet.

Still not Alternating Activations then? Gutted. I thought the AoS team would be the ones to finally break the mould for the mainline games.

Thane With Shieldbearers looks fantastic, but I am somewhat surprised he's plastic after O&G only got resin. Not that I'm complaining. It's a very good glowup on what was an old model. Ungrim looks fantastic. Pleased to see the Doomseekers finally return. I was very surprised about the Goblin-Hewer. I know we all predicted it, but since neither of those are in the Forces of Fantasy list that pretty much confirms a Slayer Cult Army of Renown. The Battalion box is interesting. Good starting point for newcomers, but I did expect them to mix it up a little with Hammerers or Ironbreakers. Two Gyrocopters Jeremy? That's insane.

Are you telling "Hashut" or "Hush-Rat?"

Even though everybody knew about the 30k box, it was just the trailer at Adepticon (I only remember because everybody was surprised when the cat had been out of the bag for so long). The official full boxset was at WarhammerFest a month or so later. I am hoping we see the full set at tonight though, at least if there's no plans for another Online WarhammerFest (there might be, but who knows), however I've got my senses set to Cynic this time.

In 2022 they showed the Horus Heresy cinematic trailer at AdeptiCon and nothing else. In 2023 they did something similar with 40k (Primaris Lieutenant and the one Tyranid wasn't it?), so yeah, I think it's a safe bet we'll just see the cinematic and maybe 1-2 individual models, but no full set. It's possible the leaked photos may have spooked them a bit into revealing a little more than 30k or 40k saw at their new edition announcements though. I reckon with Darkoath accidentally leaked, we'll probably see at least a few things from Dawnbringers VI, but maybe not everything?

Details of the Made-to-Order run for Orcs & Goblins. TOW news, but some Gitz or Ironjawz players wanting a classical vintage might partake. "The Marauder Giant will be available on a Made to Order basis shortly, joined by the Orc Shaman on War Wyvern from 1993, two sets of Stone Trolls, the River Trolls, and the Black Orc Big Boss with Axe and Shield."

Details of what's going Made-To-Order for Orcs & Goblins. "The Marauder Giant will be available on a Made to Order basis shortly, joined by the Orc Shaman on War Wyvern from 1993, two sets of Stone Trolls, the River Trolls, and the Black Orc Big Boss with Axe and Shield."

Even if the game hasn't done great, the trailers and animations are still pretty good.

Just more proof the rat-men aren't actually real. Like Bigfoot.

Oh yeah that's 100% TOW Dwarfs. We've known a King With Shieldbearers was coming from the greatly increased base size and it specifying three-models are carrying him rather than the old model's two.

Based on the Bretonnian/TK/O&G characters thus far all being resin, I reckon Grombrindal would be as well - even if a plastic AoS version appears in the near future (ALA the resin/plastic divide between 30k and 40k Primarchs).

A Zhufbar/Engineering Guild/Exiles list with an emphasis on their 'modern' creations seems like a good bet. In the case of the latter, it could also put a focus on Rangers in addition to the gizmos and gadgets. For resin characters, maybe a new Grombrindal? I suspect we'll get at least one named female Queen/Thane as well. High King Alriksson I think they'll save for the inevitable Great War Against Chaos book, though I'd be happy to be wrong.

Preview of the Arcane Journal for Orcs & Goblins. TLDR New Troll Magic Lore. Nomadic Waaagh! is all-mounted Orcs & Goblins. Troll Horde is focused on- well, Trolls, but isn't exclusively them (though it can be).

Another Blood Bowl Star Player is this week's Monday reveal.

No thread for the Dawi yet? You better believe that's a Grudgin'. Here's hoping we see them at Adepticon, or else there'll definitely be a Grudge to settle with James.

Orcs & Goblins pre-orders next week.

Orcs & Goblins for TOW next week.

To echo Ragest, that probably happened due to wargear costs going away. I also think GW is also more leery of cynically trying to 'milk' bigger armies out of AoS players, just because the tolerance of non-40k communities for those kind of things tends to be lesser when there's not hundreds of thousands of committed Marine players to shore up any missteps.

Rivals of the Mirrored City seems to be sold out most of the bigger places, including Warhammer.com. I know the most likely scenario is that GW produced like ten boxes total, but I was surprised to see it vanish so quickly, especially compared to the Tau Kroot Army Set.

A surprisingly green Dawnbringer Chronicle today, with the Gloomspite dealing with a rat problem.

It's not a leak, but it is the AoS Warscroll for Zondara’s Gravebreakers. Also a WarCom preview of the Rivals Deck. Some people here still play Underworlds right?