Erdemo86

I was thinking about which stormhost to pick but it feels like the best decision is to go with hammers of sigmar+gavriel and 3 units of sequitors.

Yes i think something like this could be unbeatable. I made a quick build and maybe its just in my eyes, but it looks very op for me. Allegiance: OrderGavriel Sureheart (100)Vandus Hammerhand (280)Lord-Arkanum (180)4 x Fulminators (480)20 x Sequitors (400)5 x Sequitors (120)5 x Sequitors (120)Celestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 120

Also if a redeemer unit dies you get it back on 5+ And +1 bravery. the question is can you it more than once for the same unit.the ward save is wholly withen 9“ of your general. i have a question. If your general is a named character,, and you pick a stormhost, do you still get the benefits of the stormhost? Because normally you cant take command traits if youre general is a named char.

Really? What for other sources do we have without gavriel and coggs?

For me everything is major buff. To drop my forces where i want and then charge first turn is very powerfull. Remember Warrior Brotherhood won all big tournaments. You can alpha Strike and kill all the stuff that could get dangerous turn 1. i think you underestimate that. Dropping 4 Fulminators,shooting with them and then charge is very op. Also Sequitors are op af. A Unit of 20 costs only 400 points and only the grand weapons do an average damage of 14/15 dmg on a 4+ save target. We will see alot of stormcast inning armys in the next tournamnts.

That changes alot. +3 to charge means we only need a charge roll of 6. gavriel + coggs charge of 4. Reminds me a bit of Azyros + Warrior Brotherhood Meta.

Can you drop Gavriel with Scions and acitvate his command ability? If yes i think he will be an auto pick.

18“ is where the ballistas shine, but you can do it how you want.

I wouldnt say that they got nerfed. I would say they got a major buff. All of the other Army will get that unmodified 6s and wholly within description sooner or later. 1. Scions of the Storm is now very usefull. 2. Sequitors are one of the Best and strongest Battleline units out there. 3. For 400 points you can field 4 Balistas which you can drop in 18“ Range. 4. The Stormhost Abilitys are not bad, maybe better than staunch defender, but we will see. 5. Being able to drop half of your army in 9“ Range whenever you want is very powerfull.( and getting -1 hit debuff that turn) 6. The Lord Incantor is very good for his points. 7. Battalion were bad before and are bad now, vanguard wing got nerfed thru errata before battletome. 8. The Comet Endless Spell is very good. Combine that everything in one list and i think it will be a top tier list. Think about something like this: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLord-Castellant (100) + gryph houndKnight-Incantor (140)Lord-Arkanum(180)20 x Sequitors (400)4 x Fulminators (480)5 x Sequitors (120)5 x Sequitors (120)Celestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Chronomantic Cogs (60)Comet (100)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 119 or hammers of Sigmar with this: Round about 160 wounds. And if a unit of Sequitors dies on 5+ they are back. All with a 6+ Ward Save. Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Incantor (140)Lord-Arkanum (180)BattlelineUnits20 x Sequitors (400)20 x Sequitors (400)20 x Sequitors (400)War MachinesCelestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Endless SpellsChronomantic Cogs (60)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 159

Hey Guys. Whats the most effective and competetive 1000 points nighthaunt list? something like this or am i completly wrong? Allegiance: DeathLeadersSpirit Torment (120)Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed (140)Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern (140)BattlelineUnits6 x Spirit Hosts (240)30 x Grimghast Reapers (360)Total: 1000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 20Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 64

If you pick a Castellant or Veritant you can take one gryph hound for free and set him up next to him.

My favorite so far is list 2 too. Like the big unit of Sequitors.

Which of this lists do you think is better for competive games, i want to build one of this three but im not sure which one will be the best. List 1: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersDrakesworn Templar (460)- Tempest AxeLord-Castellant (100)Lord-Arkanum (180)Knight-Incantor (140)BattlelineUnits4 x Fulminators (480)5 x Sequitors (120)5 x Sequitors (120)5 x Sequitors (120)War MachinesCelestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Endless SpellsChronomantic Cogs (60)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 96 List 2: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersDrakesworn Templar (460)- Tempest AxeLord-Castellant (100)Lord-Arkanum (180)Battleline5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt BowsUnits4 x Fulminators (480)20 x Sequitors (400)Endless SpellsChronomantic Cogs (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 107 List 3: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersDrakesworn Templar (460)- Tempest AxeLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Incantor (140)Knight-Incantor (140)Battleline5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows5 x Liberators (100)- WarhammersUnits4 x Fulminators (480)War MachinesCelestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)Endless SpellsChronomantic Cogs (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 96

Does anyone knows the rules of Evocators on Dracoline? I believe 200 points? 3 models? 5 wounds?

Yeah i was thinking about it too. Think he is still too expensive for what he does, but i will try. I will buy 20 Sequitors+Arkanum and paint them to build up my list. Does anyone know when Sequitors come Seperate? I If Drakesworn is not good enough i will exchange him for an incantor+ Evocators on Dracoline+Balista. Or incantor+Frostheart Phoenix. or incantor+ 3 Balistas

You have to look inside the easy to build Sequitors. They have the Redeemer Keyword. I will do it like this i think, Arkanum on foot Drakesworn Templar Castellant 2x5 Judicators 1x20 Sequitors 2x2 Fulminators chronomatic Coggs and go for a Stormhost, im not sure which one but Vindicators look very good for this list.

Have a feeling that 20 Sequitors will be an auto pick. also 3x 20 sequitors with hammers of Sigmar Stormhost could be the new stormcast meta. Imagine a unit of 20 comin back. And that 6+ ward save will do his work too. Even better than old Vulkite Berzerker Lists. i will try adding 20 and a lord arkanum on foot + coggs into my Stardrake list.

Does anyone has informations about the Lord Arkanum on foot? Which spell does he have? same command ability?

I saw that a full unit of Sequitors are only 400 points? Is it true? if yes i think i will include a 20 man unit into my stardrake+Fulminators list. How much grand weapons can a unit of 20 have?

So every dracoth haves now the second breath?its not bad. So you can deploy with scions,shoot and then charge.

What did changed?

Whos this? Another incantor?

In two weeks we have a big tournament in our Store. I wanted to share my idea and get some ideas to optimize my list. So every help is welcome.Im thinking about something like this: Allegiance: Stormcast Eternal Stormhost: Celestial Vindicators??? What do you think?LeadersDrakesworn Templar (460)Arkanum on foot (180)Knight Incantor (140)Lord-Castellant (100)Battleline5 x Sequitors (120)- Swords, 3 Grand Weapons 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt BowsUnits2 x Fulminators (240) Maybe1x42 x Fulminators (240) Warmashines: 1x Celestar Balista (100) Endless Spells Chronomatic Coggs (60) Geminds Ul Gyish (40) Total: 2000 / 2000 Or: LeadersDrakesworn Templar (460)Knight Incantor (140) —Celestial Blades Knight Incantor (140) —Azyrite Halo or Stormcaller? ( what do you guys think) Lord-Castellant (100)Battleline5 x Liberators (100) 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt BowsUnits2 x Fulminators (240) Maybe1x42 x Fulminators (240) Warmashines: 2x Celestar Balista (200) maybe one Everblaze Comet ?? Or heraldor? Endless Spells Chronomatic Coggs (60) Total: 2000 / 2000 My Gameplan: i think i will deploy as much as possible in the sky. The free -1 to hit is too good to not fully use it. Somethings like Balistar,Judicators, Fulminators, Sequitors in the realm and the heroes on the battlefield. I will try to get Chronomatic Coggs out in turn one, deployed out of bann range.(6+to Cast because of Stardrake) drop Judicators on Objectives, balistar/s in 18“, Fulminators( i think 1x4) and Sequitors in charging range. Charge and try to get that 7+ charge done. Reroll with a cp if it fails. If there is still a command point then i can use +1 Atttack Command Ability. Castellant to buff Stardrake or Fulminators. With a little bit of diceluck we can get 16 Attacks 3+Hit(reroll ones) 3+/2+ to Wound Rend-1 dmg 3. Average damage of 16 wounds without the dracoths shooting and attacking. Also we could get +1 hit from drakesworn shot. also celestial blades can be cast on ranged units too, if remember it right. what do you guys think? List 1 or 2? Or maybe something diffrent? They all have very cheesy army lists in my local store so any comment that could optimize my list is welcome. I dont know if everblaze comet is really worth it when geminids costs 40 pts.

Do we have any informations about lord arkannum on foot? Is he same as on gryph charger but only without gryph charger? Are there diffrent models incantor? Because i think 2 incanators are better than one arkanum and incantor. Only if you want that sequitors battleline its worth taking arkanum as general. 2 auto banns are great. Also i think a minimum of 2 balistas in the celestial realm are auto pick maybe 4. imagine 4 balistas out of the sky in 18“ range.

The passive and the command trait.