Austin

I would rate The Sea Taketh higher, but I agree on The Learning. I was crazy disappointed in that one given how awesome David Guymer did writing TST.

What spells are you casting on them? Hand of Gork and Arcane Shield are the only real options. If anything, you are making it more convenient for spells to be cast on them by your opponent (if they are trying that with the resist). CP for run moves makes sense. I guess I just worry about bravery bombs making you very unhappy when a 10 wound model flees.

I am confused why you would put the Dankholds in a unit of more than one, ever. Unless you have plenty of CPs to dump preventing battleshock. If I saw a unit of those guys I would do everything in my power to get them to run off. I could be missing something though, and it would LOOK cool that's for sure.

Just for emphasis, The Sea Taketh (Deepkin) is one of my favorite short stories, it is so good.

Also they clarify how many special models come back when Grots are returned through the Loonshrine (half rounded up).

Squiq/Trogg lists are what I’m trying to work out right now. Haven’t really made a list that I like yet. The closest I’ve come is: Troggboss Fungoid Loonboss mangler Loonboss cave squig 3x 3 Rockguts 2x10 Bounderz 10 Hoppers Stampede

Yeah I think the Devoted selling "better than expected" gives away how hard this information is to understand absent context. They have what two kits? I have a hard time believing the Idoneth rumor (not only because I bought a loooooot of Thralls and eels). They had a number of models on the GW bestseller list (the one on the webstore) for many months, and I have seen them across the country at events quite a bit. Maybe that is all anecdotal, but it makes the rumor hard to really believe too much.

Awesome that’s great to hear (even if that part is a bit longer down the road). In the meanwhile get ready to take my money, bc it’s coming at the screen with some velocity once preorders are up!

Can’t wait. Y’all did incredible work on the Warhammer Fantasy book. One thing to consider (with Gloomspite just being released it’s on my mind) is that it might be fun to have careers and options for ‘evil’ factions. Could be interesting to play as a Grot or as an anspiring Varanguard.

That list is so much for someone to cut through! I really like it. My only hesitation is if the Bounderz are tied up the only other heavy hitter is the Mangler. I do want to point out that the Squig Herds are a better value at 24 models for 48 wounds than the 40 stabbas. If you are only going for wound numbers.

Alright here is what I've got for a first crack at Squigz V1 Skragrott- general Loonboss on Mangler- pipes of doom Loonboss on Cave Squig- loonstone talisman Squig Herd x12 Squig Herd x6 Squig Herd x6 Mangler Hoppers x5 Hoppers x5 Boingrots x10 Boingrots x10 Squig Rider Stampede Squigalanche Comes in at 1960. Since Skragrott is my general I am debating the loonboss on mangler. I could take him out entirely, add another loonboss on cave squig and then increase the size of the hoppers/boingrots/herds (though the herds are just there for battleline).

Thanks! The 6 inch pile in is huge, and definitely also mitigates poor rolling on movement. Combined with the rerolls the movement seems like it actually won't be a huge issue (until I roll double/triple 1s all the time). Testing the army will tell I suppose.

The battalion bonus letting you re roll the random movement for Squigs under loonshrine is pretty great, and makes Skragrott much more important in a squig list.

Manglerboss Mangler 12 Herd 12 Herd 20 hoppers 10 bounders 10 bounders So I’m around 1800ish so far, including the two battalions.

If (I have a friend....) we are making an all squig army, I think the squigalanche becomes interesting with the six inch pile in move. I am having trouble coming up with good wizard options in that type of list (with a mangler hero and a plain mangler).

You've inspired me to read it again. If you are on a Glen Cook kick, I just read Passage at Arms and thought it was fantastic.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. In my post you quoted, I specifically say its about the Old World. Also, in the absence of lore in AoS, looking to the Old World seems to be better than nothing? That's like saying people couldn't read a novel about Khorne/Nurgle in the Old World and translate some of that to AoS.

Many, many lore questions about Grots (at least in the old world) can be answered by reading Guy Haley’s incredible Skarsnik.

Haha yes we are spoiled for squigs. The points are going to be tricky though! In that scenario above, you are spending 1120 just for the stampede, plus whatever the stampede costs, then the mandatory 300 for the loonboss on mangler (I assume you will take that vs the giant cave squig) to unlock bouncers as core!

The only problem (I mean having more squig isn't really a problem) to having six units of bounders/hoppers is that it gets quite expensive points wise, and pretty much would freeze you out of using the Squigalanche (where in total I think you need two manglers and one loonboss on mangler in addition to the bouncers). Unless you go minimum size for a few of those units.

Do you think three units of hoppers/Bounders is the magic number? I was thinking of something similar but with two units of 12 squig herds, then less hoppers.

You can probably find out. Just look at the April releases on the BL webpage. Both the Khul novel and the new Steve Parker Deathwatch eBook have the increased price.

Yeah I don't know that shooting is required either, just feels weird to have none of it. And yes, squigs are definitely where I am going with the army.

Even with the Loonshrine bringing them back to life? And, do we know all the allegiance buffs possible for Shootas yet? That might make a difference, unless we already know them due to leaks and I just missed the post (very possible).

What else should we use for the shooting? I've been considering this also, but I think I would take Squig Herds for tanking.