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We don t know for sure, but ghb2020 says wrath of the everchosen is valid so unless they faq it s no longer the case, we still have another 3 months until the ghb 2021 or a new edition drop to use those sub factions

GW official base size for them is the worst. They cheapened on the box and gave a chariot base for them when in fantasy battle they were on a 150x100mm same as a soulgrinder which translated to a 160mm round base. I based mine proper and its a disadvantage game wise but at least I don t have 50% of the model hanging off the base

Jervis explained in a recent white dwarf article how the point calculator they use to point units work from a 10 thousand foot view and he specifically emphasized on summoning allegiance abilities weighing on units points from such battletome. Yes, all this pricing nonsense is because we have access to summoning. They more than likely didn t take into account how our summoning is much more restricted than it used to however. Oh well!

My biggest problem with painbringers and twinsouls is the requirement to have a lord of pain general to have them battleline. That is another reason why I will field warrior of chaos instead of these two units in my lists

I believe hedonites is the first tome where gw applied a unit point hike because of our summoning capability. They were heavy handed with it especially as our summoning has been seriously toned down with 1 unit per turn max and almost zero chance to summon turn 1. My preference would have been to see a point cost for the fane and the terrain to be required to be on the battlefield for us to be able to summon. This would have opened the book to more varied lists and made our battelines more appealing rather than choosing s2d or boc battlelines because they are far cheaper than our options in this book

Let s not forget gw has now introduced 5pts increment as an option with the points of the warriors of chaos underwold warband at 125pts. That means they could be even more conservative than this wish list and it could take years for a unit to finally become reasonably pointed

It sure feels that way. I know the 6 wounds for our seeker chariot is thematic but it does make them so fragile as well!

They just do not perform any role. With 3 models on 40mm they are not good for chaffing and they don t hit hard enough to justify how fragile they are

Yeah pinning this size parts is quite tedious. Not looking forward to go through so many arms

Do you have any recommendation to glue the deamonettes claws. Mine keep falling off if I even look at them sideways!

Sylvaneth got a new terrain piece that you have to buy 4 boxes of to replace the ones you already had as the newer ones are more effective for match play. Yet, the newer battletome was significantly weaker with the loss of 1 drop battallions, no more congo line to keep your dryads tanky with changes fromwithin to wholly within and less summoning available. The battletome was released at the same time as the Slaanesh battletome that had a huge power level difference on telease. Slaanesh while no longer showing in tournament , got nerfed in every way. With this book It feels like they had a list of complaints from 2019 and applied the nerfs accordingly. Many warscroll abilities got weakened or removed. Artifacts of power and command traits got nerfed or removed. Locus ability changed to something that will do nothing 50% of the time when it goes off. Keyword changed from Slaanesh to Hedonites on all the allegiance abilities to push away (unsuccessfully based on lists having some success) slaves to darkness and beast of chaos marked units from the allegiance. While all those restrictions were made, nothing interresting was added to the battletome ( Not accounting for the new units that are beautiful but way overcosted hence why people are running s2d or boc as their battlelines in many instances) . No new sub faction , still the same bland 3 ones. Did not include arguably for one of them the best subfaction within the wrath of the everchosen expansion, some dubious choice on list construction with some battleline if making it even more difficult to choose units from this book as your battlelines. Released at the same time comes the DoK that on the other end benefits from some big point reductions, some new interresting subfactions amd the battletome includes all the broken realm dok rules. Like at the time of the 2019 slaanesh and sylvaneth release, the power level gap between the two battletome is big That is why I am not looking forward to have a new tome for my Deepkin based on what gw has done in the past to other re-releases

Be careful what you ask for, They could give them the sylvaneth or slaanesh treatment

You can but don t have to

I was thinking about this and if they had put the summoning tax into the cost of the fane instead of the hedonites units this would have opened the book to builds without summoning. The rules for summoning would just work if you have a fane on the battlefield that you paid points for. Plus the odd match up where you have to defend the fane from a mega gargant trying to destroy it would have been a fun secondary scenarios

Slaangor is my new most disappointing unit and they are not even out yet. Such beautiful models, what a shame

Fun fact: my Slaanesh collection went up by 500pts without purchasing anything yet

While maxing out allies may make a lot of sense in this book the 1 in 4 limitation may make it quite difficult to bring 6 allies units

Was it too much to expect from gw to have the wrath of the everchosen hedonites subfactions included in our new battletome? 😥

That fact that we did not get neither standards nor musicians in the new mortal units is interresting. This simplifies the warscroll greatly which is good for the game but makes the warscroll less competitive as we get less bonus rules as I don t believe gw take these into account when costing units

What battallion did you run to get that second artefact?

To some extent but i can bring 5 chaos warrior for nearly half the cost of 5 painbringers or twin souls and generate the same amount of depravity with them without paying the in battletome tax

Might be time to get that Soulgrinder on the table? Can probably generate 4 DP on his turn and 2 in the opponent so it s already half a keeper?

Drakkfoot does not negate Morathi immunity to wounds. It s the same thing

Community article on Monday"Over the next few days, we’ll be exploring Battletome: Hedonites of Slaanesh in more detail. We’re sure you’re hungry for more… " Thursday Night ....

At least saturday we ll be able to download the new warscrolls. Current community articles have been quite underwhelming regarding the new rules so far