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  1. On 3/17/2022 at 4:21 PM, Loyal Son of Khemri said:

    Araby lives! Thank you Cubicle7, for keeping the Fantasy-Middle East alive. I'm particularly interested in the Black Scimitar Guard and the Horsemen pictured above (it looks like his horse is covered in vampire skulls!). 

    Could I interest sir in the old Regiment of Renown : Mad Mullah Aklan'd's death commando's? 

    http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr06mullahs/index.htm

     

    Honourable enemies included the Knights of Origo:

    http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr02origo/index.htm

     

    and it was only a matter of time that some naughty books from Araby were discovered.. and our favourite god of rage and battle got his first ever mention ever :)

    http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr16redemption/index.htm

     

    And this wee story led on to their remaining brethren declaring their war against chaos wherever they may find it:

    http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr17flame/index.htm

     

    what is most worrying is that I've owned all of these regiments... no wonder I look like one of Mordini's nightmare legion now!

     

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  2. 1 minute ago, Nezzhil said:

    The Aspiring Deathbringer was removed from the store today.

    So named because khorne are hardly likely to ever kill anything.

    Aythangyoeow! I'm here all week! :D

     

    All mirth aside, I'd be happy if we got a khorne hero with the statline of the khornelord that rides the dragon. Proper khorne dude he is, and just as a mighty lord of khorne should be.

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  3. 2 hours ago, JackStreicher said:

    We heard you guys loved mortal wound shooting, so we removed the range, the hit roll, the wound roll and the save roll and got straight to the spicy mortal wound part. But worry not, there is also no counterplay (except more shooting, or idoneth)!

    Such a feel good rule.

     

    okey dokey, so we 12 dice ashstorm on him, get the chaos dwarf infernal artillery, fire all the rockets at him, dreadquake mortar and hell cannons on him turn 1 - and he's mist.

    Oh hang about... sorry... wrong game.

     

    How about Bret trebucket and archer storm?

    Oh hang about... sorry....

     

    erm...  erm...

    stuff it, I'll charge him with some marauders. 🤷‍♂️

  4. 6 hours ago, Nezzhil said:

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    Welcome back, Attilan Rough Riders!!

     

    3 hours ago, Neverchosen said:

    That is the most hilariously 40k thing I have ever heard... thanks for the info and I am glad to have finally gotten a 40k prediction seemingly correct. 😄
     

    You are both wrong.

    Any fool can see that it's a chaos dwarf grenade pike.

    You can upgrade them to be a bound daemon infernal grenade pike.

    I mean really... 

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  5. On 3/5/2022 at 6:11 PM, Loyal Son of Khemri said:

     

    I honestly just like the lore more then the rules at this point. @Public Universal Duardin, when we finally get the prophesied plastic army, how are you going to paint/build them? I have plans for a a Hashut+Slaanesh carnival based on some lore from the Hedonites battletome, or I’m going to make them nautical themed from Zhar Vyxza from the SoB tome ( @KingBrodd please forgive me your swoleness, but I don’t plan on adding any gargants).

    The point I’m trying to make here is that as long as we’re having fun with the book and army, who cares how badly the rules suck? know we have some tournament/meta gamers here, but the most important rule is to have fun (followed by the rule of cool).

    Unless its a siege mega gargant upgrade sprue. :)

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  6. 8 hours ago, Noserenda said:

    Aww yeah Tamurkhan and the Bestinary book fw did were amazing, its a damn shame noone bought them apparently :(

     

    2 hours ago, sandlemad said:

    Tbh I think it was less sales - which admittedly probably weren't great, as with most WHFB stuff around then - and more that the ideas for that series of books ran headlong into GW proper's plans for the End Times and AoS. Even the version of Tamurkhan we got was apparently seriously dialed back from Rick Priestly's original concepts, another example of poor communication between FW and the rest of GW. Imagine how disheartening that would have been to discover.

    It wasn’t even that sadly, although you are both right.

     

    The biggest obstacle to those books selling was that GW in its event packs clearly stated gw armybooks only.

    no tamurkhan and no monstrous arcanum.

    who the hell was going to drop 350 quid on a war mammoth that you couldn’t play in a throne of skulls :(

    They were very short sighted like that.

    the last throne of skulls of 8th they said go for it.  My mate ran and won the chaos dwarf list and trophy for that event.  The first legion of azgorh list ever seen at throne.

    That event was a sea of forgeworld gribblies from carmine dragons to dread saurians and every orc army was running an idol- it was brilliant.

    I faced a dude and his ogre army loaded with rhinox cavalry, and an empire player with a landship. And I finally ran a khorne chaos lord  on war mammoth- It was glorious.

     

    i agree about building the character- it made the character feel like he and the army belonged to you and was yours, the way you wanted it.   When AoS landed it took me a long time to get my head around the fact that it was all about the model and the model was the scroll.

    Now although not true, i still just see the current system as using models as placeholders for warscrolls.

    I prefer the old way, and the way that 40k has done it with building your character and equipment, but that’s just me, and not a criticism of the game per se.

    but going back to the original point- come on, a picture of the dragon or the exalted proper looking thirster in the blades book wouldn’t have hurt would it?

    gw always play the poor sales line, but lets face it, as far as fw and the main game was concerned, the only people who knew it existed  were those who knew.  That was the saddest part. :(

     

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  7. 45 minutes ago, Flippy said:

    So true 😄. While this old book is shorter than the current Lumineth tome, it feels the other way round. The problem is with the stories and how you can represent them in a game; the old stories were more focused on human-level characters with flaws and actual emotions (teen fantasy level, but still) and the game provided much more space to customise your heroes (steeds, equipment, looong list of magic weapons, armours, amulets…). Seems to  me now that it was some influence of WH RPG that still lingered in WFB and provided this charm.

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    I'd go with that.

    I was at warhammer world the other day on a day trip, and I walked away with nothing.  I'd programmed myself to spend on a Khorne dragon if they had one in stock but that's off the cards now anyway as once again it's no longer available.

    I can honestly say that since 3rd landed there's been nothing to float my boat, even going as far as reading the new rules and thinking wow.. I've got to try this.

    And all the while as Jack has said, the thing bugging me has been nebulous and indefinable and it's frutrating because as a result I can't really put my finger on it or why.

    The best way i can describe it would be that I'm trying to see something to get enthusiastic about through a thick dense fog.  I can hear what people are saying, but I'm not getting it.

     

    I totally agree that battletomes are not good value anymore.  They're lore thin, and the padding comes from warscrolls and lots of pages that seem to be there for no other reason than being there.   And like you I pick up an old fantasy army book, especially 5th and 6th and I still can't believe how packed with lore and list inducing enthusiasm it is.

    It doesn't help that I reread my Tamurkhan book the other week, and that sent some pangs through me.  That's how I'd love to see a battletome or campaign edition book.

    But yes, I think for me the overriding sentiment is that I know something about it just isn't doing it, and the frustrating part is that I just can't put my finger on what it is.

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  8. 16 hours ago, Neverchosen said:

    Sound Logic? Well, I never!

    Back to the chaos dwarf vampirate discussion, as seen with this clear AOS compass:
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    Chaos dwarf fidgitator harness cannon furnace engine flundulator.

    Failing that a silent person pericobobulator or a Lumineth seating device / ear wax remover-massager.

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  9. 3 hours ago, Greybeard86 said:

    This. The only reason why so many turn to domestic 3d printing is that while it is vastly more costly than GW's process, GW is pricing it so high above cost that it still makes it wortwhile. I do not know much about the tech for commercial 3d printing, but my guess is that it is still well behind GW's tech.

    Ultimately, whether 3d printing eventually cuts into GW's pockets is unclear, in my opinion. If it becomes cheaper (even if it is still professional / commercial printing, not domestic), it might end up fuelling a more fragmented industry of highly detailed miniatures by multiple smaller design companies printed by pro-services. To me, that's the ideal scenario. GW would need to compete with cheaper minis and lower prices, given that quality-wise some are already on par with them.

    Domestic 3d printing might get more followers, but I find it extremely hard to believe that it will replace proper mass production processes any time soon. Some might knit their scarves, but most won't.

     

    totally this.  In fairness GW tech is nothing special, it's the same injection moulding tech that everyone uses, but it's proven, and cost effective to the point of absurdity for the volumes they need pumped out.

    With an injection mould you have speed and single hit solution on your side.  As I say, 3-6 sprues per minute and that's conmplete sprues ready to shove in a box and ship to stores per injection mould.  So each mould tool will have a complete retail box kit with all it's sprues banged out in one hit each cycle.

    On an 8 hour rotation that 2,880 sprues per day.  Each of the injection mould tools will on average be good for 250,000 cycles minimum before needing refreshing, so depending on sales, probably once or twice a year - and then you're just checking for degradation, which with that plastic on a really top tier production tool will in reality translate into microns of dimensional movement, so back into service it goes within the day.

    I don't think 3d printing cuts into their profits, rather more of a child like annoyance to them, but it certainly wont make them lose any sleep at night.

  10. 12 hours ago, GrimDork said:

    Oh, I do agree there are many reasons not to and many challenges to overcome with it. I don't know much about 3D printing tbh, but how are these problems currently managed by companies that sell files? 

    But 3D printing is probably the future (I'm not just talking miniatures for wargaming). At some point, whether it's ten years or twenty or more, 3D printing will be much more mainstream. GW could lead the industry or eventually get overtaken by it.

    I totally agree with you, in time 3d printing will be the norm and not the exception as the processes and quality are refined, and with time they'll become mainstream.

    I genuinely don't know how other companies who sell files protect themselves, or maybe they don't have any DRM in place, just accepting that the one file they sell will get used multiple times and there's nothing they can do about it.  Perhaps someone will chime in.

    Or, as you say they end up wrapping it up in a proprietary system - so their branded printer and software with their media and their settings will give you their standards of quality, and perhaps the model will come in a .gw file format that actually connects to the mothership to get the licence code to print it and will know if the build has failed allowing you to print off another batch.

    When the tech is good enough from their quality standards point of view then certainly it's all doable, and would save them massive amounts of warehousing space and reliance on outside manufacturing resource.

    What will be interesting is how they approach it when it does come of age, and it would be the ideal thing for FW to use as the testbed given their lower volumes of unit sales.

     

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  11. 1 minute ago, GrimDork said:

    A part of me is surprised that GW don't try to be at the forefront of the 3D printing industry.

    Maybe we are talking 5 to 10 years as the technology comes along but GW could surely be making money at least by selling digital files, surely there would be a market for official versions.

    They could even sell resin & tools for 3D printing etc(all at GW marked up prices). 

    They could have 3D printers in their stores to order online and collect from or print and wait service. 

    Digital files? - no chance.

    Think about it in their eyes.  You pay X and get to open a box with 10 overpriced toy soldiers in it.  They control the quality and the whole life cycle before it gets into our clammy little paws.

    With a cad model:

    how do I protect it from getting copied?

    How do I stop you printing more than say 10?

    What happens if the build should collapse and you come to me telling me that you need another file as the first ten failed?

    Who's fault is it, do I give you a new file for free or tell you that it's your responsibility to ensure your device settings should work. How do I know that it really did fail and you're not trying to blag a free thirster on me?

    Then someone will crack the locks on it (and someone always will), and start distributing it, and suddenly we have the recaster scenario where there's more warlord titans out in the wild that there are produced and sold by Forgeworld.

    it's by no accident that on their big stuff they generally say return the whole model when people try the "oh my exalted thirster's axe wasn't very good, any chance of another?"  it's what I got told when my axe was damaged in transit, and they told me to return the whole model and they'd replace it.

    And that's before we've even gone down the road of quality control.  With social media what it is today all it takes is one "GW sold me this file and it's a pile of dog log" to go viral and your machine has to go into overdrive trying to tell people that its not the case.

    We complain about complexity and fine detail breaking etc, but on the other side you cna imagine some dude trying to recast that on the sly and having a world of hurt - so I'm not surprised if it comes out that the excessive detail and filigree is not only design but also a sort of built in anti tamper mechanism for recasters - where only investing in the same hardware will eliminate it, and if you do that, there's no point.

    I do get and understand and in principle agree with what you're saying, but from their point of view it's just easier to flog you ten toy soldiers in a box that they have total control over, from price to quality to cellophane wrap.

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  12. 9 hours ago, RuneBrush said:

    I think where 3d printing sits within the hobby is still in limbo.  How many years is it since 3d printing became available and yet GW and other companies continue to thrive?  An increase in access to this facility hasn't changed the status-quo.  From a home perspective too, 3d printers are still faffy, they require a lot of effort, plus loads of clean up or chemicals.  Print as a service is growing in popularity, but not mainstream enough to really offer an alternative to going into a shop and picking up a box of models which is one of the things GW does really well.  One thing that 3d printing does offer is an amazing range of customisation options - alternative heads, weapons, wheels, shields etc.  The things that GW doesn't sell, but allows you to personalise your miniatures and make them really unique.  Software like Blender are also become more learnt so we'll likely see the choices available increase too.

    you can't get the volume yet.

    Until you can smash out ready to box sprues at the rate of 6 per minute 24/7 then you can't really substitute 3d printing vs injection moulding.

    Where 3d printing can come into its own is BTO for models where dragging the mould tool from stores, recommissioning it etc isn't viable.  I've done it with injection mouding tools, where we've dragged an archived mould out of retirement for a few off, and had to make the mould ready for service and fit for use again.  it takes time.

    The beds on large commercial 3d printers still can't compensate for the volume output required either, and that's before as you say, you factor in all the post processing.  It's all very well some dude with one in his bedroom going on about how he printed this and that, but go ask him to smash out 500 in one hour ready to go into retail packaging and it's a different story.

    One place i used to work used to use laser sintering machines to make non critical fasteners and fittings - it was great as it meant we could build to order vs keeping an inventory of stock in a warehouse.

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  13. 6 hours ago, EntMan said:

    Was that back in the day when WHFB was still on a planet lost in a warp storm in the Eye of Terror?

    yarp.

    You needed the (newly released) 1st ed.  warhammer40k Rogue Trader rules and the book of the Astronomicon supplement to use them :)

    The reasoning behind it was that Khorne didn't do the magic thing, but daemon weapons and technology or arcana that assisted in killing were fine, so he gifted his devout with technology if they were particularly favoured.

    It was a bit different then in terms of you could spend points on a hero or  unit to got a roll on a mutations / chaos gifts matrix.  One of those rolls on the khorne specific gifts / rewards was technology, so you could have a chaos warrior unit with bolt guns or melta cannons - most of the time they just got bolt pistols or power weaponry :D

    Like I say, I do hope it it is khorne, they get rethought into lots of smashy as opposed to lots of hitty that they are now. it just fits more into their look and lore rather than being all flurry of blows.

  14. 2 hours ago, EntMan said:

    Isn't this like what they did with Nurgle a while ago? A hint that the summer Chaos Tome will be Khorne perhaps?

    I'm still hoping for and expecting Skaven though.

    Edit: there is also a Slaanesh bundle so obz this is not a hint to the Summer Chaos Tome. Unless we're getting Khorne/Slaanesh Soup 😂

    I refer sir to the original Realm of Chaos Books for 3rd edition fantasy.

    Vol 1 : Slaves to Darkness which was a Khorne and Slaanesh book,

    Vol 2 : Lost and the Damned which was a Tzeentch and Nurgle book.

    Loads of amazing content and lore explaining the hatred of these two factions with each other and how they and their champions saw the world and their place in it.  Amazeballs reading :)

    Highlights: Khorne got 40k technology as chaos gifts and chaos dwarfs in their list. All of the awesome sir, all of the awesome.

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  15. 9 hours ago, zilberfrid said:

    It would vibe with GW making mostly low effort space marines.

    We don't have rumours for a Khorne or Beasts BT before autumn, so I think chances of a new hero are low, though replacing Valkia or the Jabberslythe could still happen.

    going by current tomes if Khorne did indeed get a new book you jut know that all you'd get is a valkia or A N Other here and that would be it.

    There was talk back at the dawn of AoS of a less monopose khorgorath model - Era of the beast, who knows? but I doubt it.

    If we're talking Khorne I'd trade new toys for a serious rules rewrite so that any opponent prays that they'll never close that gap or else they're shredded.  I'd love to trade the mechanism of loads of extra attacks for extra damage or ability to hit accurately, as I've always seen khorne as merciless killers who are pretty damn amazing at killing vs just getting lots of attacks in and praying some might hit.

    I'd happily leave the quantity of attacks with slaanesh or elfs, and just have one of those armies that you know every hit will pretty much land and pretty much kill.  I think it's more synergistic as well with the actual looks of the Khorne armies, massive hulking heros and warriors that do not finesse with flurry of blows, but with machine like butchery and slaughter and bone crushing near ogre strength hits.

    Their god after all is rage, hate and murder incarnate, his death toll is heavy, his weapons are heavy, his followers are heavy and the iron dungarees of his farmers are heavy, and when they hit - and they will hit, it will be accurate and hard.

    to counter all of that I'd actually go back to the 3rd ed. realm of chaos and declare that Khorne cannot have mercenaries or allies (apart from chaos dwarfs), as the old thinking was that no army would ally or sell sword to a Khorne force as they knew that by their very nature when the battle finished they'd be next.

    That in itself would be a great reason why the forces of Khorne would force victims to turn to them eat their fallen and so doing become the bloodreaver hordes.

    Oh and a lord on exalted juggernaut would be nice, as would a beastman god marked upgrade sprue so I can have khornegors  and Khorne bullgors as part of my core troops as opposed to a coalition.  I mean, come on..  From Khorne, to Thirsters to Juggernauts - why do we not have an aspirant Minotaur devoting himself to slaugghter incarnate in the hope of being blessed with brass skin  - which leads me on to why don't we have Taurox back - A nice daemonic Brass Minotaur as a general making all things slaughtery and beasty smile in the knowledge they serve Khorne and can mix it up with the nice fellas in their armoured dungarees and brass riding cows.

    Oh and I'd have all chaos god units sized in multiples of their patron power, so 8 for khorne, 6 for Slaanesh etc. That would also justify lots of attacks for 'nesh vs harder hitty for khorne.

    See.. Khorne players, unlike elfs, always suggesting, always smiling even in the face of cannonfodder adversity :)

    Have big axe, split skulls like wax.

    Elfs - have big axe, get bad backs.

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  16. 58 minutes ago, Gaz Taylor said:

    Just to steer things back on course a little bit

    Blardy blardy blah stuff..

    but quietly hoping this new Chaos book is something brand new (Im hoping Chaos Dwarfs!), so may wait a few weeks.

     

    Ohhhh did someone mention Chaos Dwarfs?

     

    CHAOS DWARFS I TELL THEE!!

    :)

     

    Gaz taylor... keeping hope alive since the times when teclis was nothing more than a wheezing skinny miserable elf kid who didn't smile thought he was better than everyone and who had a note from his mum saying he wasn't allowed to play games with the other elfs.  

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  17. 1 minute ago, Neverchosen said:

    Are those the new models today? I feel like we are through the Eldar reveals and I am hoping for something new for AOS before we get caught up in the Chaos Dwarf cycle.

    corrected for you, no charge, all part of the service.. you have a nice day now. :)

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  18. 2 hours ago, zilberfrid said:

    I'm not onboard with all of the designs, but they seem very good as kitbash material!

    M'colleague.. regretfully this is not open for discussion.

    Please assign yourself inline and wait for grumpy silly hat big trousers knife eared god thought process realignment.

    I think it's the department where you stand under a floating D8 for an hour, or it could be the D4, not sure.

     

    Now... all one needs to know, is that those sprues have the precision, fastidiousness, complexity and attention to detail that can only mean one thing ... yes, they were created by Chaos Dwarfs.

     

    ... OOOOOHHHHHH did someone say chaos dwarfs? :D

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  19. 16 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

    Cant wait to read Kragnos!! But just looking at that page its shocking how much more 40K there is than AOS. I know we have Gothghul Hollow and the Ven Densts books coming out but the sheer number of 40K stories is insane.

    something to do with a 30 year head start twinkle.

    That and it's easier to write good pew pew than good swords and sorcery.

    That and sci-fi is way more popular, which is a shame as fantasy can now come into it's cinematic age properly if someone gave it a chance with a massively huge budget. - and I add to that on a regular basis , spitting out a good fantasy film or series regularly as opposed to every blue moon vs the scifi stuff that comes out by comparison.

    I mean, I'd just love to see something like the Dragonlance saga brought to life.  That would make an amazing trilogy.

  20. 10 hours ago, sandlemad said:

    I think the gunpla question kind of touches on what @EccentricCircle pointed out, that it depends on what you’re evaluating things on. Gunpla by design doesn’t go for e.g. organic surfaces in the same fashion as GW kits, and I’d agree that in some ways the experience of working with them is a different one, often with different rewards and context for what you’re getting out of it.

    That being said, measuring on many technical metrics, it really is astounding how even older Gunpla kits they leave GW stuff in the dust when it comes to plastic technology, sprue layout, finely engineered moving parts, mixed colours, QA, etc. and all for considerably less than your average GW example. Maybe it’s apples and oranges to a degree (though they’re both fruit, they’re both roundish, etc) but to my mind it does firmly stomp on the idea of GW as a high-end luxury product.

    More ‘this is expensive so it’s luxury -> it’s luxury so it’s expensive’ as a cycle that GW repeats about its products. Jewel-like objects of wonder and all that.

    (at the risk of getting off topic and putting aside the wider context of rules and gaming, I think every lifelong GW aficionado owes it to themselves to buy an affordable real grade gundam kit just to see what incredible stuff can be done with plastic miniatures outside of the GW ecosystem, and for less than many AoS infantry boxes)

    I'd just leave it at it's the duty of everyone to buy a Gundam kit.

    I mean.. why wouldn't you want a gundam suit in your life. :)

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  21. 12 hours ago, pnkdth said:

    I do not think that is a very useful definition since it becomes too broad and essentially encapsulate everything beyond basic necessities. Which is kind of my point, it is an expensive recreational hobby but I do not think you can call it a luxury product. (edit: added in 'not' but you probably already guessed it should be there!)

    Which is the point I was making in the previous point, GW is trying to position themselves as a premium brand. However, I do not think they've hit the mark since I associate everything they do (except their minis) with the phrase, "minimal effort, maximum profit." They could do it but they really have to step up their quality assurance on rules, improve on WH+, drastically improve the AoS/40k app since much smaller studios put them to shame (while also being entirely free). All of these are a thorn, least in my eyes, in maintaining a high perceived value.

    I've never said it was cheap, just that things have progressively gotten a whole lot worse.

    When you add all the controversy over the years + new actors popping up to take a bite off GW's market share, they now have a lot to prove. Having stepped out of GW's ecosystem have certainly opened up my eyes to what I expect or, indeed, demand from a company charging so much money for what is a recreational hobby I do not need. I guess you could say I flipped the script and no longer rely on them thus diminishing the power they used to have over me in the sphere of wargaming.

    This is also what I mean by we're living in a post-GW world (earlier post or maybe a different thread). Not in a threatening kind of way or that I think this heralds the end of GW. I'm just going to shelve AoS till GW decides they want me back rather than treating me as if they're the only game in town. They're not and this is awesome for us gamers.

    Winning people back has never been their style.

    What we need to make them change is a viable competitor that their old public just click with and start shouting about.

    And as a result only when those sales go down dramatically and consistently long term will questions be asked. Until that point you’re just talking to the proverbial brick wall.

    Its also our duty to look around. As you say, theres some great systems out there.  One or more  just needs a foothold and to gain serious momentum.

  22. 4 hours ago, EccentricCircle said:

    It's somewhat alarming how many folks buy into the propaganda that GW stuff is "the best" when realistically it's anything but. 

    That whole claim was based solely on the artistic merits of the miniatures which are certainly impressive works of sculpture. 

    However, in making them so arty, they actually now fail as both model kits ( they are often a nightmare to build and paint), and as gaming pieces ( they are too fragile, and cannot be handled safely without risking damage.)

    Add to that the comments that have already been made about the quality of the rules, book editing and translation, and peripherals like the apps and it all does seem quite a ridiculous claim.

    But by setting themselves such a narrow definition of excellence and promoting themselves to (and through) display painters, they've created this illusion of greatness. Its the last legacy of the old "we don't care about rules" era gw and one which isn't likely to change any time soon.

    What you are really paying for isn't a quality product, it's access to a well established setting, and an active community. Those externalities more than anything material are what keep gw on top.

    I’d go along with this.

    their main triumph is convincing their public that there’s no reason to look elsewhere.

    i still maintain they are, in their own field a luxury product on the basis that the opposition gives you way more bang for your buck.

    what they have over practically anything else is several decades of backstory and lore to pull from, and like any business looking at profits they look at not what they need to do but what they can get away with before the peasants start revolting.

    why give you a battletome  thats like a heresy black book or tamurkhan when you’ll pay thirty for eighty pages of sketchy and if they take the branding off you’ll give them another 20 on top.

    And like any enterprise, the quality of your product is based on what you’ve got to compete with.  If people are convinced that theres nothing out there to replace or better your stuff then who cares of you’ve got lazy rules and bad typo’s and stupidly expensive models.   You’ll pay.  And if you don’t many others will.

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  23. On 2/11/2022 at 5:42 PM, Clan's Cynic said:

    Honestly it's probably a way to just stealth kill Firstborn.

    "They're not being squatted, they're being taken out of rotation haha."

    It’s how dogs of war were dealt with.

    move it to online only, then the rules changed and they were not really worth taking.

    then they get forgotten about and eventually phased out due to stagnation and no sales, and whats left just got sold on the last chance to buy shelf.

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