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They gave him away with WD 😮 different times eh?

Received my job lot of Dark Elves yesterday. Now I've got to decide how to build them, starting with the basic Warriors. My feeling is that Bleakswords aren't worth it compared to Dreadspears in TOW (which is great as spears look more like proper weapons of war than one handed swords). The question is how many Darkshards did I build out of my 60 warriors, and his many Dreadspears?

It's such a no brainer to do isn't it. Even something as simple as using foot knight heads on old mounted knights will add a lot. Go a step further and you could go a long way to making the old kits feel fresh.

Looks that way to me. Drilled seems to be a pretty powerful ability.

Yep, sounds likely. Probably not helped by both Dark Elves and Skaven being legacy lists and therefore likely receiving less editing passes. Completely agree.

It's not unclear how it works, it's unclear why a rule that specifically calls out Khainites, and is only on the four explicitly Khainites units (plus characters), does not actually do anything in any of those units unless you make a conscious decision to avoid using their signature weapons. Unless you think it's likely the rules writers thought it was a good idea to dedicate space in the list to a rule that essentially does nothing, the only conclusion is that it's an oversight. Most likely is they copy pasted the wording of the rules from something like Ithilmar weapons, but forgot to change the party about only applying to hand weapons. Rerolls don't remove randomness, they change the probabilities involved: 4+ with a reroll can still fail. There are good arguments against rerolls (namely they slow play down) but removing randomness does not seem to be one. You might as well say "I hate it when characters wound on a 2+ as it removes randomness from the game, everyone should always wound in a 4+".

I doubt they'd fit on any of the appropriate bases. They're on the 160mm big pie plate in AoS whereas the High Elf dragons are on 60x100mm bases. Even on the largest square base (100x150mm) I think you might struggle to fit them.

I think it is a great basis for any of the elf dragons. It can be a Chaos or Zombie Dragon too, but those both require a bit more work (two heads, or some sign of decay). It's a gorgeous mini.

At the moment it seems to be near useless. I believe all models in the game are considered to have a single hand weapon in addition to whatever else they have, so your Witch Elves could choose to use than instead of their additional hand weapons if you really want to use the rule; and all characters seem to have it so any character you leave with just a hand weapon will benefit from it (yay for Sorceresses in combat I guess). I think it either ought to extend to additional hand weapons as well, or apply regardless of the weapon you're using (like Choppas). The former let's Witch Elves benefit, which kinda makes sense, the latter let's Executioners benefit (the only non-Witch Elf non-characters with it). My concern is, Dark Elves being a legacy list, GW will not feel the need to issue FAQs for them. EDIT: personally I think it should apply to all non-magical weapons. It fits Witch Elves thematically, and buffs Executioners (who I think are a little worse than Black Guard at the moment). Maybe remove it from all characters apart from Death Hags, Assassins and nobles to balance it out a bit (is there any reason Beastmasters or Sorceresses should have it? They aren't associated with the Cult of Khaine. Only reason I leave it on nobles is they could be Khainites. Maybe make them pay for it as an upgrade?)

There's a couple of people who've ranked them up on Reddit, and to my eye at least they look great (it helps that Chaos aren't supposed to be well ordered ranks of drilled soldiers, so being a bit less neat suits them well). Just go slow and steady when basing them us as they do require some careful position. Even Chosen seem to rank up well (their lack of cloaks helps). Chaos Knights are a little trickier: mediocre hobbies has a video where he ranks up five, but it does involve clipping a bit of cloak off the banner bearer.

I saw his Chaos Dragon, which looked great but took a little more work than I think I'm capable of right now (he gave it two heads using, I think, Hydra heads). Any link to his high elves one? I figure that, with just one head, it should be relatively easy.

Well, looks like I'm building a Dark Elf army after buying a pretty large job lot of new in box kits on eBay (including, fit some reason, a single Lumineth character). Bare bones it's about 3400 points, but with upgrades etc. it's probably over 4000 points. Got to say I'm really excited, even though they are a legacy faction. I think Ionus will be donating his dragon to the army (it includes a black dragon, but I'm not a big fan of the mini).

I'd say it's broader: they want to keep the Old World and the Mortal Realms separated. It's the same reason the more up to date factions in AoS were only included as legacy factions in TOW and why older minis are going to be sold on AoS even when they have new versions available in AoS.

Checks copy of Lost and the Damned. Huh, What's that on page 133, is it a beaked beastman? Why yes it is. And on page 137 we have a Khorne marked beastman which has a hound's face, something the blurb about khorngors explicitly calls out. The idea that GW lore is this well established, concrete thing that they've never changed is nonsense. GW have always been very flexible with their lore and very free about changing it. If GW were being truly honest to their oldest lore about beastmen, a very large proportion of them should have one or more mutations (and all Tzaangors should), and about half should be bull hybrids rather than goat hybrids. But, as mentioned, GW changes they're lore happily, and beastmen essentially became goat only, with the vast majority not being mutated beyond the standard goat/human hybrid. GW could quite happily greenlit CA's beaked design, and if have preferred it if they did. You wouldn't, and that's fine, but please don't tell me (and others) that we're wrong because the unchanging lore doesn't support it, because honestly, the original lore doesn't support current beastmen either.

It offers some really interesting hobby opportunities. Like, these are presumably the less traditional Bretonnians, and they might be in a part of the world that puts them in contact with a lot of other cultures (the Border Princes for example), so perhaps some if your knights gave adopted the armour or style of those cultures. Bretonnians wearing bits and pieces of Empire armour for example.

I've been very tempted to pick up some of the existing AoS dwarf stuff that is suitable for WHFB. I had a Dwarf army in 6th edition, and always liked their aesthetic.

Warriors of Chaos, using almost entirely new AoS sculpts (technically a handful are old WHFB I guess). My old 6th edition stuff has long ago disappeared sadly. Got back into the hobby in 2021.

Surprised they didn't include 5 Doomfire Warlock in there too 😄

Add me to the pile of people who find characters mostly disappointing in AoS. I used to spend hours coming up with a back story for my heroes in WHFB, picking out magic items, thinking about which units were their personal retinues etc. I just don't find I can do the same in AoS. If I take a Chaos Lord he is the exact same as every other Chaos Lord barring an artefact choice (which is often a no brainer between a good option and some bad ones), he then gets shot off the table, or hits like a wet noodle, and I just don't feel it. I can invest in my characters in AoS. Don't get me wrong, I do like AoS as a game, it's just a very different play experience to WHFB. AoS feels more like a pure game, whereas WHFB has more of the roleplay influences that were very obvious in early GW games.

In this case, they are offering their usual 15% discount on the TOW books, which is as good or even better than a lot of other 3rd party sellers are/were.

Glad I could help. I cancelled my WG order at the weekend, deciding if just order them if/when they became available again. Only reason I checked EG today was to see if they had a discount on 30mm bases (I was in Warhammer World and weighing up whether to buy them the or not) and what do you know, they have stock. My guess is their decision not to do online orders initially might have allowed them to build stock where others didn't, and now they feel comfortable selling online again.

Has anyone managed to base the new Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount for TOW yet? I am a bit nervous about getting him to fit, even on the 50x75mm option. I really wanted to find a way to fit him on a 40x60mm base for the ease of ranking him up with knights, but having seen his much bigger his horse is than Chaos Knights (who are already pretty tight on 30x60mm bases) I'm fairly certain that'd be impossible.

For those near to Nottingham, Warhammer World was replete with the Tomb Kings army set this afternoon (I counted 14). Sadly no Bretonnian sets, and pretty much nothing else either, just a handful of the individual finecast or resin kits (Settra, Grail Knight Command, Ushabti with bows, Mounted Yeomen), most the various bases, and the movement trays. Also Element Games had large amounts of stock (10+ status) of the Core Book, Ravening Hordes and Forces of Fantasy for sale online.

I kinda wish GW ran a made to order model on new releases. Preorder them and then get them guaranteed six months down the line. After that, for non-FOMO kits, have basic stock levels defined by initial preorder interest and go from there. But I guess there'd be a high incidence of buyers regret and people cancelling preorders if they did it that way, and a big part of their model is FOMOing people into buying stuff they'll never use, so I don't think that'll happen.

Sounds about right, and I've only fairly recently completely got control over that buying impulse. It can be kinda exhausting, the constant train of hype. I guess it's better than the old days when armies would go while editions without even an army book, let alone new minis.