Sorrow

Congratulations on your victories @Mandollies! That being said, I think it is a good indicator of the state of new Hedonites, that a lot of people are going Slaves to Darkness plus Glutos.

Glutos and Slickblades are the only two units from our mortal part of Hedonites that are spot on regarding their cost.

To be blunt, I think 6 wins and 11 loses with a new army is not necessarily all that terrible rate. Also I do play in a extremely competitive local meta, a lot of people are constantly prepping for tournaments across Europe. Suffice to say, I am not really a hardcore competitive player.

If there are going to be any cost reductions for our faction, they absolutely must be done properly. No massive reductions to make the faction overpowered and no cosmetic reductions which change nothing. Balanced.

I ran two lists, first is the courtesy of @Enoby. This is the list that granted me all of my wins. The second list is not worth writing, to be frank. Nobles of Excess with Glutos, Sigvald and Lord of Pain. Its supposed chief power, melee, fails miserably.

I had 17 games with new Hedonites. Lost 11, won 6. I lost against armies that had actually strong melee and/or magic/shooting such as OBR, Seraphon, Lumineth and Tzeentch. There are viable units and combinations, but overall the faction lacks direction and as @Gistradagis already said, there is little to no meaningful synergy.

If this release proves popular, maybe Games Workshop will further explore any of the myriad aspects to Slaanesh, whether in AoS or Emperor Children codex.

Since I plan on running Nobles of Excess, could you be so kind to give me a bit more elaborate your view of Myrmidesh and Symbaresh? Their strengths and their weaknesses?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/26/we-gave-sigvald-to-6-top-tier-painters-and-the-results-are-magnificent/ Prince of Vanity is beautiful!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/26/we-gave-sigvald-to-6-top-tier-painters-and-the-results-are-magnificent/ Prince of Vanity is beautiful!

Legion of Everblight and Protectorate of Menoth player here. Played WMH since MK1. This is, hands down, the best description of new Hedonites. Skornergy, but overcosted.

Personally, I think that the whole mortal Hedonite release was a lazy rush job. There are viable units and list combinations, but a lot of our army is simply not viable. I could point this from poorly written rules, fundamental lack in which direction to take mortal Hedonites to, rush jobs on most new art pieces (some are excellent), and a genuine lack of new Slaanesh lore. I meant, other factions often get a full novel dedicated to their faction upon release, some like Lumineth got several. We? Nothing, which is rather strange if we take into account that Newborn is around and Hedonite are rising across all Realms.

Gorgeous! Will you be writing lore for your new additions to Fangs of the Leviathan?

Those will probably be part of second wave. That being said, if Lumineth end up getting third wave, all more power to them, they are far more popular faction than ours.

Hedonites had two waves, first being Daemons and now second wave, which are mortals. If we do get the Newborn model, I said it before, I would have to be a model in rules and aesthetics far above anything else in Hedonite range, after all, it is a avatar of Slaanesh or child of Slaanesh made manifest.

I read the new battletome, it feels like a rushed and overall lazy job in everything, from rules to lore and art. What saves the release is the fact that models are beautiful.

Which is a shame, since a lot of people want to play mortal Hedonite lists and summon mechanic makes playing purely mortal lists rather difficult. Doable, but a lot of our new units are not viable.

I highly doubt it. Lumineth are far more popular than Hedonites.

Same here. They have beautiful models and interesting lore but the rules are just sad.

@Enoby Tell me those models are going to be part of Fangs of the Leviathan!

I will copy-paste my previous post.

I want to try out Symbaresh and Myrmidesh in Nobles of Excess, but with fact that I will be going against Lumineth and Gloomspite, I think I should play the list I played against FEC and Sylvaneth.

The list is courtesy of @Enoby It is excellent in my opinion. Invaders Lurid Haze Glutos (400pts) Syll'Esske (200pts) - general Lord of Pain 11 Blissbarb Archers (160pts) 11 Blissbarb Archers (160pts) 11 Blissbarb Archers (160pts) 5 Slickglaive Seekers (200pts) 5 Slickglaive Seekers (200pts) 5 Slickglaive Seekers (200pts) Seeker Cavalcade (160pts)

Beautiful artwork and some quite interesting lore in our new battletome. Enjoy it, my fellow Hedonites! Managed to get two games yesterday. Played against FEC and Sylvaneth. Won both. The combination around Glutos/Sigvald/KoS and Seekers and Blissbarbs is very good. I am supposed to play against LRL and Gloomspite today. I really wish to try Nobles of Excess list, any suggestions?

I would love to see the Newborn as a actual model. From lore point of view, it would have to be far more powerful than anything else we currently have. Also, really fantastic model that would make even Sigvald/Glutos/KoS pale in comparison.