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I think that the price increase for an already pricey hobby is very much limiting what I will purchase. I was thinking of starting a 40k army, but now I think that I will stick with my small Slaves to Darkness and Idoneth armies. I can say that with more decent pricing I would be more armies deep into the hobby and spend more money on GW's products.

I can attest that I was priced out of the army and settled for Idoneth (I am happy with my choice). But the increased cost is a challenge in general as the hobby is already fairly pricey. 😢 To return to the frontiers of idle speculation. Would anyone else be cool with Gitmob and Grotbag Scuttlers having a shared release and battle tome?

Haven't there also been some some Duardin/Dispossessed rumours?

I saw someone mention it looks like Sigvald's sword on Reddit... now every other option seems boring in comparison.

I am very curious if Horus Heresy has anything to do with Space Marine dominance? I remember seeing them as very popular when I was young, but now it seems like it is impossible to be in this Hobby without at least collecting a small incidental army of space marines. I am liking the role of Stormcast within Cities of Sigmar. I hope they follow suit in a potential Devoted of Sigmar army. I feel that it makes them feel special like Sigmar sent giant avatars of justice to protect the common folk. I think that using Stormcast and Space Marines sparingly makes the feel more powerful and unique.

@Raviv Darn I was hoping for more news for AOS and I am dreading the new Necron news. I can't afford a new army but I love the aesthetics of Necrons and I am likely to fall prey to whatever rumoured box is coming. Does anyone imagine a similar AOS news day sometime in the near future?

You broke my heart in one sentence, and repaired it in the next 😊

Although you are correct that there is an implicit link between mutation and genetic alteration, the term mutation itself etymologically linked to the notion of change. As @Overread posits, Chaos has little to do with real world science and more closely resembles other fantasy tropes such as magic. Games Workshop often portrays mutation affecting non-genetic aspects of a person such as their personality or souls. The impact of mutants in pop culture seem to have a greater bearing on GW's narrative and aesthetic depictions of mutation than any sort of real world scientific explanations. It is possible that 40K is more explicit with how the effects of the Warp alter genetic code as it is more fitting for the tropes and schemes of a science fiction setting. The term mutation is clearly a notion that is easily problematized, and rightfully so as it contains real world implications. But, I feel that it is discussion that warrants its own thread. Now to tie this back to rumours, this is something I touched on in the thread before but it seems fitting in light of this recent discussion. With the chaos iconography that the giants have plundered, who expects to be able to build giants with iconography linked entirely to specific alliances, and what chance is there that they will include mutation options like with the Aleguzzler? I feel like some death options would be nice but the the right paint scheme could easily zombify the giants. I have a sinking feeling that I will need to learn how to use greenstuff soon.

I think that the topic of genetics in a fantasy realm is a surprisingly slippery slope. What can be stated is that the warping effects of Chaos have seemingly taken a toll on the majority of Aelves after their ingestion by Slaanesh. As for whether or not the effects of chaos' mutations impacts genes is up for debate, but also not one grounded in real world science.

I feel that both the options you listed are great choices. I will say that Skaven can be a little over powered depending on the list. It does seem that your play style seems to lean towards their more competitive side. Maybe focus on one of the 'clans' that is less competitive. Gloomspite, is a good option and they do have plenty of shooting for a Destruction army. The thing is that their shooting is fairly weak which might actually appeal to you more. I think that using the different monsters you listed would not be particularly overpowered since they have very different synergies. I like that both of these armies have lots of options and that they are both very fun in terms of random funny things that can occur with both armies. I am still in the learning process as well, so someone with more experiences will likely give you more information. As to answer your earlier question why I picked the armies I play. I play Slaves to Darkness and Idoneth Deepkin. I like 'elite' armies, even if horde armies do better competitively. Slaves to Darkness was my first choice because I played Chaos in warhammer fantasy and love the models and lore. I think there is something fun about playing as big metal warriors overwhelmed by hordes of enemies but still coming out on top. They make me think of Sauron in the opening scene of the Lord of the Rings film. I also like having demons mix into my army as well as it gives me variety in my collecting and painting. I chose Idoneth because I wanted a very different army from my Slaves to Darkness and I used to play Dark Elves and love the idea of sea faring elves. I like that they are very fast and have a hit and run style of playing that is different from Chaos. My family live by the sea, and I grew up with lots of stories about sea monsters and so they also appeal to my own family history.

I think that a death based Warcry Warband seems to be a given at this point, but I am really not sure this fits Flesh Eater's long claw aesthetic. It could be something Flesh Eater Court related but it is not a typical ghoul. Seraphon musicians typically play drums and also seem to all have claws. Maybe they are redesigning Chameleon skinks to have different hands? Nurgling does seem to be the closest fit in terms of hand design from what I have seen suggested so far. It could be a little Nurgling playing an instrument on a base and could therefore be for either AOS or 40K. Considering that Warcry Warbands all seem to represent a realm, this might be a new unit from Shyish but I am not sure what other creatures in AOS have three fingers. How many fingers do Sylvaneth sprites have? Maybe, it is a little sprite from the realm of death. It could also be something entirely new.

Or... maybe instead we can just discount the Eidolon 😉 But I do like that each Aelven army has some kind of avatar like figure: Eidolon, Eltharion, Durthu, Avatar of Khaine and hopefully something crazy for Malerion when it comes out.

Hello @pbL` Your question was very clear and well written. I hope that my response will be clear and hopefully help you. I think the answer to your question is based on personal taste. You can make the armies you currently play more fun by changing your play style, or giving your friends certain advantages to help them out. But if you really want to try a new army, I would suggest playing something that plays differently. As it is fun to play a new style and challenging to learn a new way to play an army. Which armies do your friends play? It is helpful to have some variety in your group.

I saw it and immediately saw the clawed hand of one of Malerion's draco-fide followers... ...then came here and saw the more probable answers. 😢

Oh, now I am totally having Chaos Gargant, Boba Fett taking the field! 🤣

That is amazing. I hope to find something equivalent for my Slaves to Darkness (still leaning towards creature caster). But if I ever start an undead army I may have to follow suit. I will also recommend it to my cousin who just started Legions of Nagash. As for the rumour engine. I keep posting about it but I want Oxyotl in AOS!

I am thinking I might bite on one of the creature caster demons as possible Chaos proxy. They also have a Nagash looking thing but I am not 100 percent on the scale of their models. If I find anything else I will let you know. 😄

More than anything I am hoping the Mega Gargants come with a clearly mutated Chaotic head and a zombified or partial skull head. I just adore the idea of running these guys as both a part of other alliances and also their own army. I think the current heads look great for both Order and Destruction I would just like something to fit the other two allegiances. I know some people are not fond of the salvaged icons (such as the Khorne emblem), but I love the idea of the giants selling their services and even identifying with their employers only to meet up with other Gargants and wrecking house.

As fun as more terrain would be, I assume whenever the Idoneth get an update (wether in 2nd edition or further afield) it will likely drop the references to other Etheric vortex terrain. I would be happy to be proven wrong as I think there are lots of cool terrain pieces that would fit the army but I do not see that level of support going forward. As of right now, I think that we will likely see an update through Warcry and eventually in Underworlds. I also think when AOS gets through all the planned armies we will have some kind of Psychic Awakening style expansions and the books that came out just prior to or right after second edition will be first to be updated.

What I see: New Idoneth crab model. As someone that just got into the faction this will be impossible as that is not how my luck works. What it will be: 40K monster throw back like the Zoat. Or misc. detail on Kraken Eater. What I hope: New Lumineth crab hat!

I just hope that if the Lumineth have all been revealed that we haven't seen all the different hat options have yet. We can have hats corresponding to all the elements and Tyrion is just Teclis in a different hat. They will be like an army of Malibu Stacy!

As an Idoneth player I love this idea and may have to steal it, for financial reasons. I also think that undead could do the classic digging out of the ground look. A massive zombie breaching the soil would look so cool. Although, I am sad that the chest seems to be one of the reused pieces of the Gargant. As it seems like the natural place for it to wade through water, lava, nurgle filth.

It looks to be a trophy in the form of a rather large shield. There is mixed iconography strapped to most of these guys. I do hope that there is enough of such pieces to help these giants fit into various factions. But at this point it seems pretty extraneous to the giants lore.

Initial Thoughts: this was the best online preview of the three. AOS/Warcry/Bloodbowl:: The Giants look amazing, I might have to build a Gate-Smasher for my Slaves to Darkness and a Kraken Eater for my Idoneth. Then I will be halfway to a full Sons of Behemat army. It would be a waste of money not to do this 😇. The new Khaine models are amazing I cannot even begin to contain my excitement for Malerion's eventual release. The new Luminth model is fantastic but so much of the model has been leaked that it felt like a let down after the awesome Sons and Khaine models. Snotling team is weird... but I like them. If I ever play Ogor Mawtribes I might mix a few of them in with the Gnoblars. 40K/Blackstone Fortress/Horus Heresy:: That Necron model is the coolest thing they showed off. I also quite like the inquisitor but nothing can compete to the utter madness of a spider robot tearing someone's psychic powers from their body. I love the Sisters of Battle aesthetic and so the cartoon and new model appeal to me but as someone that likes 40k from the outside not as tempting as the Necron. The terminator librarian looks so disproportionate and weird so my least favourite reveal. I was just thinking of getting into the Blackstone Fortress and this release seems pretty neat. I doubt I would get it personally but those models are awesome. Horus Heresy is just some dude... neat if you like that dude I guess? Overall I really liked everything and I am excited to learn more about the Sons, the Khaine warband and hopefully see more Necrons.

I want those Daughters/Dark Elf models so badly. Might convert them to chaos...