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I haven't had many games with this list, but it was a pretty great success against my opponent. Even if I was too tired and made some hilariously bad misplays. Another user put this up. Arkhan brought tremendous good unbinding rolls against my maggotkin opponent (who was running a GUO, Glottkin, and Exalted GUO) and the OBR spells put in some work with their buffs. Katakros is also great with his debuffs, his massive +1 hit aura, and all that juicy juicy RDP Arkhan Katakros 20 mortek 20 mortek 5 Deathriders 6 Stalkers Nightmare Predator I think your list will be fine with 2 catapults, but against heavy armored armies or armies that can do a bit of outflanking it might be a problem maybe?

Don't feel bad! I think I worded that big post badly if i'm being honest! If I feel like the list i'm bringing is "strong" then I usually clear it with my opponent first. I don't want to bring my big boy list against a meme list you know? I'm trying to get loads of practice in because I eventually would like to try my hand at some tournaments in my local area. So people at the shop seem willing to throw down on that lol.

Actually everyone is super chill at the shop! Nobody has really complained about the OBR, except the Skaven player 😂 I was really worried about it once I saw some complaints online, but everyone I play with comes away with having a good time so I guess i'm lucky there. Hopefully it's because i'm very friendly the entire time.

This is very true for every game i've played against people at my local shop. Everyone seems to enjoy facing them, as they're used to just charging headlong and smashing things apart but my army is able to take the hit and punch back. Which I guess is a bit different for them. I was running a crawler and harvesters for awhile. I've since swapped them out for some other things and am trying out a unit of six stalkers. The ogor/maggotkin guy at the shop actually super loves the 20 mortek guard blocks with a harvester as support idea, and would love to go against a Crematorium meme list featuring them. The sylvaneth player actually did deep strike some revenants (I think?) in behind my crawler to try and take it out, but Arkhan just gobbled them up. And the FEC player tried to bullrush into the crawler but it didn't make it that far and got tied up by the mortek guard, which let me move the stalkers in and decimate his two terrorgeists. So far my limited experience lines up with your points, if you just charge guns blazing into the OBR they will most likely blunt your attack, take the hit, and swing back. The players all seem semi-competitive so i've been fielding petrifex (I also just really love the extra rend command ability) but i've started asking them if they're cool with it now, I don't mind swapping to a different legion if they'd prefer it. So far they do appreciate that the army doesn't really do any fight first/fight last/fight again shenanigans that other armies do.

I feel like his mini is more "surveying the battlefield" sort of stance. The way he has his shield set gives me this feeling of this is all beneath him? Maybe i'm looking too much into it based on his lore.

What's the list you brought against your opponents, and if you're fielding harvesters are you using your guard to bubble wrap them?

I decided to try a scheme inspires by the Eternals of Magic the Gathering's more recent sets. I think I found a new scheme to repaint all my stuff with 😅 Though I should find a better way to do the purple glow from the eyes

I'm bringing six stalkers against my frequent Ogor opponent, and i'm really hoping to give him a shock with how much damage those stalkers bring. But yeah, my catapult has largely acted as a DISTRACTION CARNIFEX for my opponents

I do like this list a lot, I may give it a try sometime at my store as just a "let's bring some strong lists and smash them together" day haha.

I'm not actually sure on the CoS front. I only have one player in the area who runs them, and he runs a big unit of handgunners which didn't feel like they did that much damage to my units. And the only ogor guy seems to run mainly cav ogors. I'm not quite ready to face people in a tournament, so my only experience is with my local players unfortunately.

@Gwendar played a game today. 2k knife to the heart. Opponent was FEC... Not sure on list but he had two terrorgheists and a bunch of ghouls. I went in with this list while I wait for my katakros/box of guard to arrive. Arkhan Liege kavalos (general: mighty arc) Soul Mason (godbone armor and reinforce battle shields) 2x20 mortek guard 5 deathriders 1x6 stalkers Mortek crawler The stalkers tore the two terrorgheists apart! At one point I came at his gheists with 3+/3+ rerolling 1s from the Mason plus -3 rend and 2 damage. He went all in with the gheists and basically scooped after then fell at the end of turn 2. He manages to kill a squad of guard and arkhan but didn't have anything to stop the advance of reapers than was coming down on him after. I'm very sold on the stalkers

Oops! Sorry, I apparently need more coffee and can't count. Yeah his Alakanash, The Staff of Power reads "this model can attempt to cast arcane bolt and mystic shield any number of times in the same hero phase, even if another wizard has already attempted to cast the spell in that phase."

I believe Nagash can cast Arcane Bolt six times, if he used all his spells on just arcane bolt for that turn

Hmmm. It was my understanding that the debuff just deals the d3 if your unit did any damage to the OBR during that turn. I don't think it does a series of d3 based on the number of wounds your unit inflicted.

Ah right, forgot that's how it works. Oh well, the godbone isn't too bad at keeping the mason alive, since he has some nice buffs (or I suppose a spell he can take could be a debuff) and he can potentially cast more than two spells a turn.

Yeah his buffs/debuffs plus the at least 5DP seem REALLY good. Do you go with an artifact on the mason, or just give him the godbone armor? Was thinking the Gothizzar Cartouche for the mason.

Yeah I remember the talks about not taking the falchions over the swords. I think my list i'm going with is pretty close (or exact) to one I think i saw you post awhile back. Hopefully it works out for me too lol. I'm also redoing my paint scheme, i saw one inspired by the Eternals of MTG and since I loved them in War of the Spark (from a looks perspective) probably going to copy that scheme idea too. Silver blue metallic bones are dope. Katakros Soulmason 3x20 Mortek Guard 1x6 Stalkers Guard Batallion Endless Spells I think?

You've really sold me on stalkers so far, I think i'm going to take the arms/heads off the three immortis i've built and switch them over to stalkers so i can field a 1x6 unit. I've got katakros and another box of mortek on the way too. Can't wait to get my hands on them!

So I have two army lists i'm sort of toying around with, based on what I currently have. I am thinking of grabbing Katakros/ another box of guard soon though. Arkhan Liege Kavalos Soulmason 20 Mortek Guards 20 Mortek Guards 5 Deathriders Harvester Harvester Crawler OR Arkhan Boneshaper Soulmason 20 Mortek Guards 20 Mortek Guards 5 Deathriders Harvester (could maybe swap out one for immortis guard?) Harvester Crawler Bone-tithe shrieker Nightmare Predator Thoughts?

These are fantastic! Can't wait to see anymore updates on these

I just saw the image in question and... oof if that's how it plays out that'll be rough going against Fights First armies. Like they needed any more help 🙄

Doesn't Shield Wall say "You can use this command ability at the -start- of the combat phase"? So wouldn't you still be able to activate it even if they have some sort of fight first mechanic?

Sorry @Death1942 I misread another post, looking at the Legions errata Arkhan is 360 there too.

I shot a better pick of one of them, o really like the brown tabards

So it looks like Arkhan only went down in points for legions of nagash? That's unfortunate edit: Nevermind, looks like I misread a post. Arkhan is 360 in Legions also. My bad