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I dunno, maybe? You raise a fair point. The winds are out of my sails a little with this news. My local meta is pretty heavy on the shooting and I only really felt confident I could weather it with PE

It might be because I run katakros as my general, but i've found OBR to be deceptively slow. On paper, yes we are. But if you have the RDP to spend we can be quite quick across the board with the 7' move + run. I've certainly caught a few opponents with surprise with how quickly my army was able to move across the board.

1. I'm not sure what you mean, it seems a lot of lists run a liege-kavalos. He's definitely a good unit, I feel. I think maybe some of the more recent tournament lists ran Nagash and a whole mess of either guard or deathriders. 2. I've had really good success running a squad of six stalkers. They devastate anything they can get to. 3. I think they are viable. I've seen lists that ran a large core of deathriders that seemed to do fairly good! 4. People usually don't seem to have space for them, I think. They are definitely good if you have the spare points! 5. Arkhan, I like his model but the times I used him he never felt very "powerful" if that makes sense. Katakros however, has been absolutely worth the points in my 2k games. I don't think you necessarily need him. But it's hard to argue with all his abilities and the 5 RDP he brings. My 2k is Petrifex Katakros [General] Liege-kavalos [god bone armor] 20 mortek guard 20 mortek guard 5 deathriders Harvester 2 Crawlers I haven't gotten to test this version out yet, but previous iterations did well for me, in my local meta at least! As far as your 1k list goes, I think it will be fine. Stalkers or Harvesters are pretty devastating at low point ends.

I think I may be needing to pickup some new brushes and was wondering, what brand of brushes do you use?

I actually super like this list a lot. I need to pick up a second catapult to finish off my "competitive" build, but I could run yours too if I picked up some boxes for immortis guard. I may have to add that to my shopping cart whenever I can actually order minis again haha

He only gives mortis praetorians the +1 to save, but all of his other abilities will be applied to your army no matter what subfaction you take (like the +1 to hit bubble). Also keep in mind that Katakros also has the mortis praetorian keyword so his save becomes a 2+ when he uses Supreme Lord

So haven't posted anything here for awhile. Mainly because I wasn't happy with my scheme so after getting some inspiration I've been working through my minis again. Though to be honest the new scheme doesn't really fit the name, but I don't think it would be appreciated if I made a separate thread for the same army so here we go! The new scheme is heavily inspired (ripped off) from the Eternals of Amonkhet. But I wanted to keep the cold/ice bases for them. Haven't taken a shot of my guard yet, I have ten done but I'm kinda wanting to get a full squad of 20 done before posting them. But I do have a harvester and soulmason to tease you all with

Ah yes the stardrake. I admit I had slightly forgotten about that unit (local stormcast player doesn't run one, and I haven't taken my reapers to a tournament yet) so if you're going up against one it might be smart to change up how you position the harvester. I mainly run that formation to better protect it against flanking attacks since it's such a "Kill this thing first" target. The harvester off to the side of the block, or behind them may work? That way you can still regen units when they die. You could also bring the harvester around after the guard are engaged, though i'd still be worried about it getting flanked by a scary unit. Though I suppose if that happens you'd be able to smash them with the guard. I apologize for not having much experience against a star drake

I've seen some people (and how I usually use them) have the harvester in the middle of the mortek guard ranks sort of like MMMMMMMMMM MMMMM HarvsterMMMMM As the harvester can reach over the front line mortek to smash enemy units.

What if you started your first turn (assuming survival happens) you use Endless Duty to give both the catapults an additional attack? Seem like it would be pretty great. Then you can have the liege move up the field to support the riders?

Making some progress on my Amonkhet Eternals inspired Bonereapers! This time, the harvester

I'm curious on the Soulmason. His ability to easily give our rerolling 1s seemed like a pretty sweet thing, since he can potentially cast it several times. I wonder what they suggested taking instead? I typically have been running Katakros+Soulmason lately. Edit: Plus it's my only source of dispells haha. Interesting that they don't seem to rate the Stalkers very highly

I rolled with Arkan + Katakros for awhile, and it was definitely a powerful combination. Though lately i've been running katakros + soulmason in order to get one more 200pt thing into my army. I think a harvester with Nagash might be a bit too much. He can bring back 3 wounds/models on up to five units. Plenty durable.

I think i've seen some lists that ran with a bunch of deathriders instead of guard, those seemed to perform pretty well? Though you're points about it coming down to if your opponent being able to deal with Nagash or not is pretty spot on I think.

I think several of the lists that made it quite far in the recent tournaments used Nagash, i'd have to look them up though.

For me it's that the Stalkers, while slower, have reroll charges ability (our only source) and can unleash 15 attacks with -3 rend and 2 damage easily, so they'll typically obliterate anything they touch and are 10 points cheaper. Though to fair towards the harbingers, I haven't tried them yet.

I'm also pretty curious about this, one of my local players is going to be picking up Tzeentch and has already mentioned running changehost

I will say that Katakros is a monster of a support piece, he brings a ton to the table. Though i'm not sure if he's absolutely worth his points, but he does FEEL really good to use.

So I have two lists that i've been toying with. The first one i've been playing a few games with and it seems like it's doing well, but I have a second i've been thinking of trying out just to see if I can work more "punch" in. I've kind of been avoiding running big three blocks of guard, but I might think about it since the first list has six drops and the second has seven. Leaders: Arkhan the Black Katakros Battleline: 20 mortek guard 20 mortek guard 5 deathriders Others: 6 Stalkers Endless Spell The other list is Leaders: Katakros Soulmason (godbone armor) Battleline: 20 mortek guard 20 mortek guard 5 deatheriders Others: 6 Stalkers Behemoth: 1 Crawler Endless Spell

We got our FAQ a few months ago iirc. Unless you're meaning another one?

I saw somewhere on their facebook (i'll try and track a screenshot down later, i'm at work) that OBR during the first round of the siege get +1 to their saves. I'm sure you can imagine the salt that flowed through the comments.

I went against a Tempest Eye cities army last weekend, and if I was any legion but PE I don't know if my units would have been able to reach his gunline without being obliterated. Having to charge into his handgunners cost me 10 mortek guard before they even got into combat. It was a really messy fight, even if I eventually came out on top thanks mostly to some teleport shenanigans with Arkhan (And my opponent managing to roll just bad enough to leave arkhan with 1 wound left)

I really love your bases!

So it seems like there's quite a bit of us at the LVO. Hopefully if they bring the nerfs they don't overdo it

Petrifex is considered the best, due to the +1 to save and also the -1 rend legion ability. I would assume Null Myriad would be pretty strong against a spell caster heavy matchup.