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That's a good question. I would say probably not. You buy a command point, not RD, so technically no. Depends on what the book says. I guess another question is then, can OBR use the generic command abilities e.g. reroll charge rolls and the new ones from GHB19? Or do they use RD points for alternatives?

You are right! I thought I could rely on someone reading from a book Thanks for the clarification on the stacking as well!

It affects both wounds and mortal wounds, as per the reading here: (EDIT: THIS IS NOT TRUE, THE GUY MISREAD) https://youtu.be/Whg32GhCqVE?t=1169 I do have a question about this very spell though: Does this stack with the 6+ after save the whole army gets? So roll for the 5+ and then after roll the 6+ afterwards? (Same question for all the combonations of wound negation there is with the general army trait.

Hey everyone, Just a quick question here, as we have a bit of a discussion going on in our group. Do Command abilities effect the one giving the command? E.g. Gavriel Sureheart's ability that gives +3 to charge? Surely it affects him too? Same with command traits. If I have the strauch defender trait from SCE (+1 save to everything wholly within 9"). It also affects him? It seems abilities and spells always effect the caster, but some in our group are saying that for Command abilities it is different and was FAQ'd or something? If it is / is not the case, then can you please show me where! Any help would be great! Thanks!

Hey everyone! As the title says, I'd like to give my ossiarchs a look based in the undead draugr from Thor: Ragarok, but I am not sure what paints would be needed. The hardest is what the bone colour actually seems to be from the pictures. I can't tell if its a grey, green or normal yellowy bone colour, because each picture is different! Anyone have any tips. For the clothing, it seems to be a blackish grey, dark red and some green if I'm not mistaken. What would be some good choices ? For the wash I guess nuln oil? Any tips would be greatly appreciated! ThorRagnarok13-e1509885951214.webp

Thanks both of you for the clarification! Makes much more sense this way.

I think I am missing something here (still quite new to the hobby), but I thought that reroll failed saves was, well, save rolls that you didn't make. Im starting to think I have been playing wrong and my Sequitors aren't as beefy as I first thought. Let's see if I can get this myself: Basically it means that if an attack has -1 rend and I have a 4+ save (so need a 5+ on the roll), I can't re-roll the 4, because I technically "pass" because my save is 4+? So I can only ever re-roll anything 3 or less (if my save doesn't get buffed /debuffed etc)? If that is the case then I have defffffinitely been playing wrong. The group that got me into it basically simplified it that rend basically changes your save characteristic, and doesn't change the actual roll (leaving your save characteristic untouched).

What about ignax's scales for the artefact? Mortal wounds will still do damage to it, so that 4+ could be a lifesaver. Throw in a Lord arcanum or incantor with azyrite halo on it. Then you dish out mortal wounds back on a 6.

Guys and Girls, I need some help because I am losing my mind here. I wrote up a list earlier in this thread about a Gav memeheart list, but I am looking at his warscroll, and he doesn't have the HoS keyword, nor does his CA say it has to be HoS units. It is for friendly "SCE". Here it is: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads/aos-warscroll-Gavriel-Sureheart-en.pdf I'm going crazy trying to figure this out, because I see lists with only the HoS as the stormhost, and people saying it can only be them. I also bought the model yesterday and the warscroll is the same as there. EDIT: It seems im a bit of a dumb dumb and it's not the most recent warscroll..... You win this round GW!

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I often heard about the legendary "Gav / Sureheart shenanigan list" but what is it exactly? Is it useable in the current state of SCE? What is the stormhost you take with it?

Nice idea! I'm thinking of going for a theme similar to the Draugr from Thor: Ragnarok. Would be my first non-default colour scheme army and not sure what paints would make it work.

That's a good point with the whole unit being brought back but potentially retaining the +1. I can see both sides really.

That's right! I've also seen another list which uses the 2 x 12 Banshees here: (4th Pic I think).

and with the max model count per unit, you are basically all but guaranteed to do that. And then you can immediately rez lost models at the gravesites with the general im presuming. This is one of those tactics which I could just never come up with. I'm too "point and enemy and run" to think of things like this!

Ah that sounds awesome. But they can't dispell in the same turn the spell was cast? So basically its drop something non-harmful, then next turn dispell and attack?

Gotcha, thanks! In general, is the Mymourm pick to predictively counter some kind of magic meta that people are anticipating, or just because of the points changes that were made?

I've seen a few lists for LoG being used with 2 units of 12 Mymourm Banshees being used. Does the spell eater ability increase their attack by 1 in total, or one for each model in the unit?

Yeah it was just a friendly game, nothing serious really. I had the match yesterday actually. I didn't win, and I was pretty overwhelmed by the tactics of it really as it was my first game. The deepstrikes didn't work out and i t did kinda mess up my positioning. Still, it was hella fun and my units did pretty damn good when they got into a good situation. I didn't make good use of the hero buffs and abilities because they were too far back from the actual fighting. Overall it was a good lesson and I learnt a lot on what the army is capable of, and what I need to do better next time!

Fantastic, thank you! Got quite a lot of -1 to hits for those executioners, so that should be ok. I'll pick off the crew with the celestar right away. In general is it better to go 1st or 2nd do you think, if I get to choose? Or anyone else for that matter)

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I think they have played a few games with the Dark Elves, and more so for AoS in general and its basically my first real game. Thanks for the tip though! Whats the best way to give that -1 to hit? Looking forward to finally have a full game. What would be a good alternative do you think if not going Hammers of Sigmar? I did choose this one for the ability to bring them back, as I thought that would get some shocks if it goes off! Thanks for the Mount trait tip! I guess I should try and keep my Lord Arcanum close by to the frontlines? Both the Castellant and the Relictor seem really cool and its hard to decide on either to be honest. And are Castas really that bad? I have a group of 5 that I can maybe proxy as Judicators instead. Or I can take all of them out and see if I can squeeze in another hero. What do you think? And lastly, its a 1.5k game, but with 2 battlelines, but I guess 5 libs, 5 seqs, 10 seqs would be the best solution for battleline? Could perhaps proxy 5 libs as seqs or vica versa? And actually the last thing: Thanks for the help! Wish I had another set of Libs, but only have the 5. I guess my battleline will be 5 Libs, 5 Seqs, 10 seqs. I could support the libs more with heroes perhaps? Or could just proxy 5 seqs as 5 libs or vica versa? Thanks for your help!

Hey everyone, I have my first sort of "real" game coming on Friday - Just a friendly with a friend who is playing the Old Dark Elves with their compendium and witch elves, executioners etc etc). It's a 1500 point game and I'm using mostly stuff from the Tempest of Souls and Soul Wars boxes, with some extra liberators that I bought. So the list is pretty firm in terms of 90% of the points because that's all I have really. However, we can use proxies and as I have 3 Knight Incantors (2 from the boxes and one from the getting started magazine), I thought about what would be good to proxy as potentially. Also, I really have no idea in terms of what stormhost, command traits, artefacts and spells to take (Oh and the mount trait), but I gave it a try and came up with this: Stormhost - Hammers of Sigmar Leaders: Lord Arc. on Gryph Charger - General - CT: We cannot fail - Art. : God-forged blade - Spell: Azyrite Halo - Mount Trait (I have no idea) Knight Incantor - Spell: Stormcaller 3rd Leader (I thought about a Lord-Castellant? or a Lord Relictor?) Units: 5 Liberators 15 Sequitors (can be split into 2 or 3 groups also I guess) 5 Evocators - Spell: Speed of Lightning (Can Evos take something from the LoI? 1d4chan says so, but the Warscrolsl doesn't say anything) 3-6 Castigators (depends on if I take this 3rd Hero or not) War Machines: Celestar Ballista Celestar Ballista Any information how I could approach this would be great! Not sure how the Dark Elves play, but I hear that the Executioners just tear things to shreds, so my initial idea was to focus on save rolls and healing potentially. Thanks for any help!

I know. Didn't mean to infer that they are. Only tried to say that because they are not part of LoN, and also not NH, what are they exactly? Their own faction?

Great, thanks for the info! Really strange they didn't FAQ it, as it seems like the kind of thing that people would most likely wonder about.