Obeisance

RIP Petrifex Elite. I have a team tournament in a month. What the hell do I do now?

So we didn't get any point changes? I hear we'll get hit in an FAQ or something.

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That's not a terrible idea, squeezing in a Leige with Helm instead of the Mason. I need RDP instead of his spellcasting.. I'll play around with the list. And yeah, Pendulum was probably where I was going. Predator is cheaper and unreliable, but can't hurt me. Sun could do serious damage to my infantry. Pendulum at least, keeps going.

So question. For context, this is my list: Arkhan Boneshaper: Key, Reinforced Shields. Soulmason: Empower Weapons. 3*20 Morteks: Swords. 6 Stalkers: Blades. Mortek Batallion Nightmare Predator Bonetithe Shrieker ... If I trade out the Mason for another Shaper and drop the Predator, I've got 50pts. Endless spell wise, what would you take? Sun? Pendulum? I feel like I need something to make Arkhan more dangerous. With the Palisade, I'm tempted to take it to try and protect against shooting. How have you used it to good effect in the past? I feel like people just walk and shoot or unbind it.

The problem with Drain, I've found, is opponents insisting you can't reroll a reroll, when they also have reroll effects. They choose the trigger order in the active turn.

So I had a game vs chaos dwarves on the weekend, my first game since lockdown/fear started ramping up. I'm woefully out of practice. Lol. Turns out blobs of 30+ dudes shooting, rerolling hits and dealing mortal wounds on 6+ hit is really good against us. His elemental guys bounced, killed 4 with a catapult turn 1. I kind of just didn't have the bodies to deal with the shooting and I couldn't roll high enough to stop any magic. Then double turn pushed the game from on the edge to his favour. Crawler got one shot and spent the game tied up and I didn't have the units to extricate it and move forward. ... I think I need Arkhan for his mobility, his recursion and ability to shut down enemy magic. Leige Kavalos looks good on paper, but he didn't really kill anything. Catapult needs support/protection, which I don't have the bodies for. My list is going to revert, but I might try some cavalry.

Fair call. What IS the current meta? I thought the world was pretty much shut down.

I'd been playing a lot of Arkhan, but I thinking I'm gonna drop him from my list. I keep getting screwed by Protection of Nagash forced teleports, he's mediocre in combat and our spells aren't killy enough.. and you can't really afford to take more endless spells due to the way the army is pointed. I will, no doubt, miss his mass regeneration of units and ability to shut down enemy spellcasting. I find I'm not getting enough out of Arkhan. Maybe I'm just playing him wrong. Adding the Leige gives me access to his +1 attack command trait and he's pretty decent in combat. Adding a Crawler, well, I haven't tried the Crawler yet. I'm gonna run a single one and use it to try to snipe out characters and generally be a pain in the butt. I can give it extra attacks, rerolls and a bonus to hit rolls as well. Leige for +1 attack, Mason for reroll 1s, Shrieker for +1 to hit. (I'll double check it's not melee only.) Remove Arkhan and Nightmare Predator, add Leige Kavalos and a Crawler. I'm pretty happy with this list, I'm gonna give the changes a shot on Sunday. ... Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers - Legion: Petrifex Elite Liege-Kavalos - Trait: Mighty Archaeossian - Artefact: Godbone Armour Mortisan Boneshaper - Item: Artisan's Key - Spell: Arcane Command (or Drain Vitality) Mortisan Soulmason - Spell: Empower Nadirite Weapons 20 x Mortek Guard - Nadirite Blade and Shield 20 x Mortek Guard - Nadirite Blade and Shield 20 x Mortek Guard - Nadirite Blade and Shield 6 x Necropolis Stalkers - Spirit Blades Mortek Crawler Mortek Shield-corps Bone-tithe Shrieker Total: 2000 / 2000 RDP: 5+8D6

Hey remind me. Does Bludgeon (Petrifex) apply to the Hooves/Teeth/Claws of Kavalos? Why/why not?

Yeah, I was thinking of running a single unbuffed one to threaten characters. I mean, a moderate turn of shooting can kill wizards and stuff.

Also, guys. How are you all finding the Mortek Crawler? I haven't played AOS since the pandemic started in Australia and I'm thinking about playing some more now that we're opening up. I left off.. buying and assembling two Crawlers. I've found that OBR has issues keeping and taking objectives due to the lower number of units, being elite. Do you find having the Crawler a hinderance? How many are you running? It seems like a unit you have to buff to get any value out of.

You have to take the trait if you can. However, Katacross can't have the trait.. so ignore the validation error.

Hey, what is considered a competitive list for Seraphon? Just looking for some ideas. There's no events and in thinking about picking them up.

Okay, thanks for the replies. I'll look into what stuff does. The general consensus I've gotten from my local community is that Sylvaneth is terrible and don't even bother. Are they really that dire?

Thanks for that. What glade/item? Also, do you need a Wildwood? I'll have to get a copy of the book.

Hey, My wife and I are playing in a doubles tournament.. later.. when the world stops trying to kill us. I'll be running Bonereapers. She really likes Sylvaneth, but doesn't play AOS. I actually know <0 about the faction. I'm thinking of buying 1000pts worth of stuff and painting it for her to use. I mean, I've probably got the time. The Start Collecting is a Treelord, Branchwych and 16 Dryads (why not 20 ffs?) and like 500pts. If you were going to play 1000pts at a decent competitive level, what would you run? What subfaction?

Do you guys find the HPA to be a bit squishy? I'm assembling one at the moment. I got it secondhand on sprue. Literally coated in dust. I'm pretty sure it's red dirt, so it's been living in a shed in semi-rural Australia for a couple years.

Yeah, okay. You guys have talked me into a Warlock. I'll probably give him Warplightning Shield and Vigordust. I have a couple of the old classic ones from when I used to play Skaven back when it was Alessio Calvatore's book to paint.

I'm just writing a list for a doubles event this month, to work out what I need to paint. I'm looking at running: Seer on Bell: Master of Magic, either Death Frenzy or Warpgale. Warlord: Brutal Fury. 2x 20 Clanrats: Blade. 40 Monks: Staff and Blade. 2 Warpfire Throwers. =1000 I had 100pts floating, so Clawlord. I don't need any Warlocks, I guess? Warpfire Throwers because being doubles, people have to spend 2+ core each.. and OBR was the most common army in the last tournament I played in. Choices? Ghrrystrike or Runeblade for the Warlord. Skavenbrew or 5+ refund command point for the Seer. I don't think SoJ is worth it on the Clawlord.. he can have 6-7 attacks. I mean, I could just take a Corruptor with SoJ instead of both, but I think the Bell is probably more impactful.

On the new Monk warscroll, Blade and Staff are a combined profile. Does this count as one weapon or two for number of extra attacks? Also, suggestions for artefacts for a Seer on Bell or Clawlord at low points?

I'm thinking about trying a "fast" list. Usually I just run melee dudespam. Has anyone tried out the Katacrossian Deathglaive? With or without getting run and charge from a non-Petrifex subfaction? Maybe with Deathriders as well. How did it go? Just something I'm thinking about while I stare at a machine at work

Okay, so I straight up hate building lists at 1000pts. I have a doubles at the end of the month (with my wife who is using my OBR) and I can't decide what to take. Plus I haven't run Skaven in a while. Are Monks still good? Seer on Bell: Frenzy or Gale, Master of Magic, Skavenbrew. 20 Clanrats: Blades. 20 Clanrats: Blades 40 Monks: Blade/Staff. Hellpit Abomination. (Anti-infantry/heavy hitter.) =1000 Corruptor: Sword of Judgement, Verminous Valor. 20 Clanrats: Blades. 20 Clanrats: Blades. 40 Monks: Blade/Staff. Warpfire Thrower. (Expecting lots of infantry) Warpfire Thrower. Geminids. (Had 60 left.) =1000. I don't know, looking for ideas.

It's deployed first. So you kind of just smack it in the middle of the table.

So based on the conversation earlier, I've started assembling my second Crawler. Next time I play, I'm gonna try them both out. I've also been feeling Arkhan's a bit lackluster. He's more like.. just a utility piece? I find the biggest problem with him is Protection of Nagash. It's too good not to cast on him (especially if you're facing down a pair of Cabbages who can reach nearly anywhere on the table) but if you want to commit him to combat, which he's not terrible at, he needs to activate first or risk Protection triggering. I've had multiple games where I've needed to have him kill stuff, only to need to activate other things as a priority and the opponent squeezes through a single point of damage. Don't get me wrong, I get a lot of use out of Command, Drain, his ability to force through spells and stop the opponent from casting.. but I don't know if it's enough. I'm gonna try out Katacross as I'm yet to play him.