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https://www.goonhammer.com/broken-realms-morathi-review/#Stormcast_Eternals says this is possible but likely to get errata'd or otherwise made less attractive

half-incorrect then, as I thought MA would be affected by any SCE prayers and spells even needing the keyword. I'm sure the Morathi book will specify these details but man does it feel messy

Wow alright, I guess my brain didn't think it could possibly be THAT underwhelming...

Ah I mixed up ability vs trait... so COS can be affected by heroes' spells, prayers, etc but not an actual CP Trait

@FattBooM666 Stonecast feels really tired after seeing about 10 different versions, but wow did you really knock it out the park with the moss and lighting!! @SirSalabean you can and should mix Chambers. there are only a couple inter-Chamber specific rules. @PJetski the rules preview seems pretty clear about COS units being "treated as if they were Stormcast Eternals units", why would that not mean the auxilia also count towards the Stormhost, if <Stormcast Eternals> keyword is what gives our units the Stormhost keyword as well? edit: this picture, combined with the battletome rules you provided, seem pretty clear auxilia should be able to use Stormhost rules--unless Stormkeeps throw something different into the mix

Euro symbol right? So basically 95 USD, same as Vanguard SC nice. Hopefully GW will let me swap since I wasn't able to after their stores closed down...

Best way to avoid hammers is Vanguard and Sacrosanct chambers. Vanguard chamber is good yes, but you'll end up needing heroes from Sacrosanct (wizard) chamber and probably Warrior too. At this point, buy and play what you think is coolest. Trying to keep up with or chase any kind of meta has killed my enjoyment for getting into AOS, so i'm really trying to avoid that mindset and simply enjoy hobbying again. And with that being said, I'm super excited that Stormcast get a mortal auxiliaries rule; it's going to make them feel much closer to the "guardians of the free peoples" that they're positioned as in lore, on top of opening SO MANY doors for conversions and army themes.

@Mattrulesok which podcast/episode did Vince talk about fixing Stormcast? i'd love to hear it! Also, any thoughts on the price for Ven Brecht's? I have a Vanguard Start Collecting I could trade for it depending on the MSRB...

me seeing they have a US site me noticing their international shipping is 17 USD 😧

pretty disappointing to come back after a bit and see that our only play against the Gargants will be ballistae yet again I wonder how well other armies are going about gargant-hunting. I at least finished painting my first Stormcast in between work and trying to read more Soul Wars 😅

AOS reminders is a full app already??

They don't even have Lumineth in there. It's literally one team working on both the AOS and new 40k apps... that alone makes me want to never subscribe to any GW app. Overcharging for 40k and not even paying a separate team? I sure hope their programmers are getting a decent wage for 2x the work

My enjoyment (and preference) for the High Fantasy of AOS can't be untangled from my issues with GW--especially concerning prices and how they're handling having a monopoly on wargaming--but I will say I've been enjoying AOS more than WHF for the spectacular designs, ease of playing, and how much support non-2k/matched versions of play get. Get your Warhammer Fantasy fix through the Total War games, they feel better than the tabletop ever did.

they could add the "this unit is a wizard with 5 or more models" requirement, so you've got 140pts minimum ?

I was just thinking about this in bed last night lol, if LRL have units that are wizards then the entire Sacrosanct chamber should be wizards/able to unbind yes? With the exception of the ballista and Lord Ordinator.

that's the plan, hopefully a mini swap but if not a LGS/reseller

the new points changes are really making me want to buy a box of Judis... I might do so just because I love the models so much, but darn if this wasn't sad to read through even without the full Lumineth/Seraphon rules context

how soon do you think? I know any date we can guess will be pushed back 3-6 months because of pandemic stuff. I had figured Q2 or 3 2021 for AOS 3.0 originally; it gets both Lumineth and Gargants out for a while while giving GW room to update any lagging tomes before a larger change. Judging by the 9th Edition move to digital content, AOS 3.0 should be following suit. I can only hope there are two separate programming teams to both lighten the load and keep release schedule(s) on time...

Yes but SCE and NH are very clearly behind the rest of 2.0, where DOK at the least has still excelled especially in tourneys.

I think it's... DOK, Nurgle, and Nighthaunt that also need proper 2.0 books along with SCE? so there's a couple other matchups if the next starter set is Stormcast again.

@Laststand SCE definitely need a new book, but for now the decreases are a nice start

@Kramer thank you so much! by "no details" you mean, detailing the greenstuff being used to fill in the holes? wondering if simply clipping off the cloak but leaving the pauldron part would eliminate the need for greenstuff...

I didn't see this posted before but here's a complete list of the points changes from https://ageofminiatures.com/points-changes/ units AND battalions! (under spoiler for length)

@Peter (Age of Miniatures) thanks so much for this collection of the GHB2020 points changes! https://ageofminiatures.com/points-changes/ Extremely helpful and I was excited to see how many Stormcast units got the decreases they needed.

@Milano I can't react any more today but WOW that is so cool to see the full Vanguard Chamber on display 😍 that would be great! the Hunter cloaks are more "in the way" than Palladors, and I'm itching to paint some Stormbois sans cloth/fur, without adding Liberators to my grey pile.