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  1. Hagbean
    Second time i've seen you make this point about Stormvermin and I feel compelled to respond, I think it's illogical to blame the huge overcost of Stormvermin on "the power being elsewhere"; Let's say I own a shop that sells cars, and that i'm currently trying to sell: A - Sports Car (WLV) B - Average Car (Stormvermin) I've priced car 'A' at £5k, but i've priced car 'B' at £10k, what car are people going to buy? Or rather, what models are people going to include in their lists? If you were to buy cars 'A' and 'B' in a package for £15k, is the price of car 'B' all of a sudden justifiable because the "power is elsewhere"? They need to bring other existing models and clans into the picture (Verminus/Moulder/Eshin) and Stormvermin are just one of many that would diversify list building in such a huge way. Throwing out a bunch of point increases isn't going to solve the issue the new Skaventide tome has faced from the start, which is far too many auto-includes and lack of diversity across lists, people will just bite the bullet and go "huh well I just get 5-10 less of X but I still get to abuse this mechanic". There's absolutely no doubt that there's multiple aspects of the tome that just straight up need nerfing, and honestly if they did so we'd still easily be a B+ tier army, but we'd still be playing EXACTLY the same lists, just with less models. I just generally dislike this "well A is good so it's okay that B is bad, and we can't make B any better until we make A worse" it encourages homogeneous lists and in turn discourages people from bothering to play the army in the first place.
  2. Hagbean
    Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersLord-Arcanum on Gryph-Charger (220)- General- Trait: Staunch Defender - Scrolls of Power (Artefact): Scroll of Condemnation- Spell: Celestial Blades- Mount Trait: IndefatigableLord-Ordinator (140)Knight-Incantor (140)- Spell: StormcallerBattleline5 x Sequitors (130)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields5 x Sequitors (130)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields5 x Sequitors (130)- Stormsmite Mauls and SoulshieldsUnits5 x Evocators (220)5 x Evocators (220)6 x Castigators (160)War MachinesCelestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Endless Spells / TerrainPurple Sun of Shyish (50)Suffocating Gravetide (20)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 117 Thoughts/suggestions?
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    please no i just spent literally a months wages on plastic...
  4. Hagbean
    YIKES that would be mean, I love it!
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    Cheers for the suggestions, I do have a fair few WW kicking about so might be able to scrounge together a block of 10. I've been looking into conversions/cheap options but I might just end up biting the bullet and dropping some cash on the sisters, they look absolutely fantastic and the bows are brilliant tbf. I just don't get it, it really wouldn't required any work from them whatsoever, and it would please a good chunk of the community.
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    Just to chime in on the Ally talk, i've never understood why they don't allow Wood Elves to be taken as allies for Wanderers. Fluff aside they're not game changing warscrolls and would allow people to field some of their cool old models that they PAID GW money for.
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    Yeah thanks for the advice, this had been mentioned so i'm going to run 2 x 30, and 2 x 10 Eternal guard and see how I get on. Think I may try some Sisters of the Watch at some point when i've got some more $$$ to spare (as they're not exactly friendly on the wallet) and i've actually finished the projects i'm "working" on atm.
  8. Hagbean
    No need to apologise buddy! Thanks for your hard work! I realised my original comment was a bit blunt as well so sorry about that haha, really appreciate what you're doing and will certainly put it to use in future!
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    No Masterclan traits
  10. Hagbean
    You still get bonus's though? Sure the lack of cp/artefact sucks but there's still SOMETHING to say "oh look if you take X you'll get X" My bad though I didn't actually know about the fact they don't count for cp/artefacts. Although Skryre get absolutely no sympathy from me in that regard as they're insanely strong.
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    Thanks a lot for the response mate, I do have the Malign Sorcery box, what Endless spells would you recommend? I'm finding myself with the 100 points spare after including 2 units of 10 eternal guard and not entirely sure what spells to take. I'll certainly take your advice your advice and try out a second wayfinder as well!
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    It's just so disappointing that the number of battalions looks like this; Pestilens = 4 Skryre = 6 Verminus = 1 Moulder = 1 Eshin = 1 It's like the other 3 clans were/are a complete afterthought. Let's be honest as well you're forced into playing horde-y chaff lists for pretty much all of Verminus/Moulder/Eshin if you want to do well, that's fine as it goes with the fluff and all but there's no dynamism to the list building.
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    This is the thing though, I don't want to play with monks, I want to play a Verminus themed list without being forced to just take block upon block of clanrats. Stormvermin being 500 for a max unit makes them utterly redundant. Also to try and chime in on your debate you've been having with @Gwendar I don't really understand the point you keep making about BS immunity. The faction inherently has poor bravery and hordes of chaff, without forms of BS immunity we'd be completely useless, is there wiggle room for it to be nerfed? Sure why not it does seem slightly too strong in the situations you described, so tell me how exactly would you balance it? Point increases? Surely people will just bite the bullet and say "huh well I guess I get 10 less of X so I can fit my BS immunity in". I personally think that; -Monks/Verminlords/Skryre/WLV need to see point increases. -Something needs to be done to bring Moulder/Verminus/Eshin back into the fold There needs to be more of an incentive to take single-clan lists, specifically Moulder/Verminus/Eshin, as there currently isn't much at all. I'm not a huge fan of mixed lists as they consists of overpowered auto-includes and it ruins the fun for both parties included in playing imo. edit: Hence my hope of Stormvermin being discounted by even a tiny amount, it would open up a nice little spot for something else to be included in Verminus lists. They need to add another battalion for both Moulder/Verminus/Eshin also, instead of just dumping a bunch on Pestilens/Skryre.
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    New list of Wanderer models I now own; 99 glade guard 20 eternal guard 4 spellweaver 2 wayfinder 2 waystrider 2 waywatcher 2 nomad prince (1 kitbashed from shadowdancer) 20 sisters of the thorn Came up with the following list: I'VE APPLIED NEW GHB 2019 POINTS TO THE LIST Allegiance: WanderersLeadersNomad Prince (80)- General- Trait: Myst Walker Spellweaver (100)- Heartwood StaffWayfinder (80)Waystrider (80)Waywatcher (120)Battleline20 x Glade Guard (240)20 x Glade Guard (240)20 x Glade Guard (240)20 x Glade Guard (240)Units5 x Sisters of the Thorn (210)5 x Sisters of the Thorn (210)BattalionsWaystone Pathfinders (160)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 125 Haven't put artefacts in there just yet, but how does that list look? Can anyone suggest alternatives with the units I have? Is the Battalion a guaranteed pick? If not what should my list look like? Thanks in advance!
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    Christ when you put it like that it sounds so depressing...
  16. Hagbean
    Please for the love of the Great Horned One, reduce the cost of Stormvermin.
  17. Hagbean
    Thanks for this, i'll do some warscroll reading Good point, i'll see which of them has the most hero-like qualities
  18. Hagbean
    excellent ideas!! thanks a lot!
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    Looking for some suggestions on potential conversions after pick up a sizeable Wood Elf force, I tried souping it all into a GA: Order list but with the complete lack of interest GW are showing in any of the older Wood Elf models, i've decided to focus on trying to build up a decent Wanderers list. Models are as follows; (Wood Elf) 11 Wardancer 5 Waywatchers 8 Glade Riders 2 Warhawk Riders 1 Shadowdancer (Wanderers) 1 Wayfinder 1 Waystrider 1 Waywatcher 24 Glade Guard I was thinking of potentially converting the Glade Riders into some sort of Wild Riders/Sister of the Thorn, really unsure of what else to do with the models, any ideas?
  20. Hagbean
    GW have made their bed with Idoneth and now they're forced to lay in it. The pricing and warscroll of eels was insane from the get-go, they haven't bothered addressing it properly and Idoneth remain in AA tier. I'd be happy to see sweeping reductions across all Idoneth units if eels were nerfed into the ground.
  21. Hagbean
    Looking for critique on some lists that i've come up with; Verminus: Allegiance: SkaventideLeadersGrey Seer on Screaming Bell (200)- General- Trait: Master of Magic - Artefact: Skavenbrew - Lore of Ruin: Death FrenzyClawlord (100)- Artefact: Shield of Distraction - Mighty Warlord Command Trait: Verminous ValourClawlord (100)- Mighty Warlord Command Trait: Brutal FuryBattleline40 x Clanrats (200)- Rusty Blade40 x Stormvermin (500)- Halberd40 x Stormvermin (500)- Halberd40 x Clanrats (200)- Rusty BladeBattalionsClaw-horde (180)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 183 Moulder: Allegiance: SkaventideLeadersMaster Moulder (100)- General- Trait: Verminous Valour Master Moulder (100)- Artefact: Foulhide Master Moulder (100)- Artefact: Rabid Crown Battleline40 x Giant Rats (200)6 x Rat Ogors (300)40 x Giant Rats (200)40 x Giant Rats (200)6 x Rat Ogors (300)Units3 x Packmasters (60)3 x Packmasters (60)BehemothsHell Pit Abomination (220)BattalionsFleshmeld Menagerie (160)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 207 Skryre: Allegiance: SkaventideLeadersArch-Warlock (160)- General- Trait: Overseer of Destruction - Artefact: Vigordust Injector - Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!Warlock Engineer (100)- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!Warlock Engineer (100)- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!Battleline40 x Clanrats (200)- Rusty Spear40 x Clanrats (200)- Rusty Spear40 x Clanrats (200)- Rusty SpearUnits1 x Ratling Gun (80)1 x Ratling Gun (80)1 x Ratling Gun (80)1 x Ratling Gun (80)War MachinesWarp Lightning Cannon (180)Warp Lightning Cannon (180)Doomwheel (160)Doomwheel (160)Total: 1960 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 180 Looking for solid criticism on all lists, pros/cons etc. Have an awful lot of models ontop of the ones posted so any suggestions are welcomed.
  22. Hagbean
    Well where do you draw the line? 20? 40? 60? 80? 100? I honestly wouldn't really have that much of an issue with someone wanting to play with a list that's 20 points over, but it certainly isn't "nothing to worry about" like you eluded to in your original comment. Rules exist for a reason, going 20 points over can be the difference between having to completely rearrange the composition of a list to fit in a specific unit/model. I wasn't trying to offend you at all buddy, just don't think it's a good idea to suggest others to break rules.
  23. Hagbean
    other than the fact that the list is illegal?
  24. Hagbean
    @GwendarFantastic job, did you continue this scheme on the rest of your Skaven? If so would you be willing to post some more pics?
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