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oh never said saurus be bad, im saying that combo is the best thing besides kroak. and gg have a small base, so is easier to play with 30 small bases than 20 32mn ones.

per examble how my brain see scrolls. 20 saurus do 34 dmg vs a 4+ save, being in galletians, with all atack, chargin in koatl, slann casting rend spell and skink mortals buff. so 400points + 400points behind buffing them. seems prety nice eh but them you compare them to another infantry unit with similar move atacks etc like grave guard. 30 grave guard not nedding being in galletian only needing a vampire cloose for aura, cant fail anything. and only needing all out atack. will do 35,6 dmg.... not counting smaller bases making everything easier, or necro making them fight again on hero phase or getting tons of models revived every turn, and half unit revived once etc etc. so: 20 saurus do 34dmg vs 4armor for 400p+400p buffing them 30 grave guard do 35.6 for 420p+140p buffing them or 41,3 dmg if u add velladama spell, rounding it up to same seraphon combo points fast glimpse see how much better skellys are even being a revived unit, yes has less wound and armor save, but with death ward and multiples revives they are even thoughter. and still vampires and graveguard arent one of the best books. and that saurus tactic is the best one in all book besides kroak mw spam, and it is inferior to only one of the multiples combos in a okish book as soulblight. still i can sound harsh, because is internet, but it isnt so bad. like i said im sure book will be lower part of middle tier, with even some lucky tourney wins. after some years being on top was obvious we would get this. miniatures are amazing thats most important,and book is fun and good enough for casual games to be fairs and fun. and it could even be totally op toptier if kroak combo proves to be too strong. but it would be only 1 miniature, not real state of whole book

no, im not one of those guys who dont know any math and only see, oh this unit atack at 4+ so is bad, or see lots of atacks so it is good!! i do real numbers every unit does. math with his point cost and see buffs it can get. so everything i said is set in stome absolute for sure. samething with idoneth tome, maths said book was total garbage, and unknowledge guys came claiming i was a noob, i didnt have any idea. book is amazing and i need learn to play.... now after some years? turns out book has been among worst of all since his release, right now is lowest one among all 3.0 books.... same on seraphon,only variable is kroak since magic cant be counted so easy.worst case is it be op, so general stupid reaction of people will be book is op like always, when it sucks besides kroak. and noone who knows 2+2=4 could see vampires or kharadrons and think it would be a bad book. kharadron melee build was absolute op on a first glance, and vampires... zombyes,grave guard,vamp on horse,vampires and volka are among the best unit in all aos by far. seraphon book only has saurus buffed, new chikens being okish, and maybe kroak being op or bad, time will say. everything outside that is 100% not on 5/0 level book, some things are fun and okish but only for casual games

yes i think you can do it, and of course wouldnt be fun, but not sure if it would be good enough for tourneys. since troglodon will die 100% on first oponnent turn after be teleported or in turn1 if you are against a strong shoting army. then all ur plans are ruined, and need like 1100points only on combo. you can do it now, but only 3 casts and harder on following spells but with kroak having the +1 to cast of asterysm, and noone used it never despite people thinking about it on kroak release.

well i know i sound harsh and like criying, but only states facts as economist who knows some maths. everything do way too low dmg with way too high point costs. like allready said despite general seraphon hate actual book was weakest one since 6vmonths ago(under 45%winrate and only army without any 5/0 on this generals). and we lost most of abilitys buffing, bye bye buff stackings, everything is the same or worse and instead points going down to make up for it, they were increased hahaha per example, why some guys think saurus are good now? they were useless before, now they doubled his cost but only doubled his wounds.... gw forgot to double his dmg too. so in reality they are like 25% worse than a allready bad scroll. or kroak. he lost +1 to cast on asterysm, lost comet, comands are useless now since we lost every comand ability. yes it can cast his spell 4 times now, but noone casted it before since noone was in range never so who cares,gained 2" on his spell and not nedding a 2+ to do dmg and spell difficulty not raising on every cast, not enough to go from bad to omg amazing broken for me, still reaally easy to kill, 8wounds at 4+ without ward, i always oneshot him on turn1 with my idoneths on every game, unless he takes guard, but then he cost 540points,680 etc etc for every guard unit same on slann, lost +1 to cast of asterysm and comet, and not being able to garrison on our scenography anymore. every dinosaur lost bites and some atacks in someway with the removal of the ability stacking( trice chief could have even +5 atacks before), and everything went up by far. poor basti was absurdly overpriced only for being able to double shoot, how many times was used on sotek per example??, they deleted the 2 shotting, nerfed the dmg but keept the absurded cost... skinks are totally dead, even zombyes do same dmg for almost half points and gives back wound, revive etc new raptors have the worst mechanic i have seen, a cavalry that get rewarded for fail in his job, a cavalry is done to charge and kill the unit,thats why everyone uses spears on them always, getting a buff for not killing something is useless, and even then rival only have to disengage and you loose every charge buff haha kudos to engine. as the first miniature with negative dmg, since it always will dmg himself instead doing dmg, unless you dont do anything for several turns. best thing about book are the best miniatures in all aos. and that haters shouldnt cry anymore about we being op. ok, end of facts/cry. now my 2 cents a unit of 20 saurus on koatls charging with all out atack, priest mortals buff and slamm buff of +rend will be expensive but brutal if get to hit doing an average of 10 mw and 21 rend2 dmg. it would delete almost everything despite nedding 400points of saurus 1cp, 2 spells going off, getting the charge and 400points buffing them. so 800points and somethings going off, but is the best thing i can come with this book. or the obvious kroak+ kamikace troglodon, but the combo nedding 1k+ points only to do at best 24mw 1 turn and then losing troglodon and all dmg dont seems very nice to me. not saying book be totally useless and fire up our minis lol, but im sure it will be a 45-49% winrate book that get some lucky 5/0s, so around the lower half of table. unless kroak prove to be op, since magic isnt so easy to math up, and it could be too strong like some people thinks,

since says after you resolve all your atacks dont means after removed models?? rrally hope you be right, and mayyybe fulll buffed saurus be our only shinning hope

no, it is at the end if combat phase, so models are removed allready. and...... my feared were totally in point, there isnt anything on book that make you excited to say, oh ill use this, this and this and this unit will do booom. no, seraphon scrolls were garbagge with 100 abilitys to make them shine, now scrools are straigh unplayables- to bad, with 99% of those buffs removed. skinks doing 1'6 dmg for 85points hahaha basti on solar engine.... even 4 mortals for cloose to 300points would be bad, this is even worse that saurus got double cost but only doubled his wounds, forgot the damage part lol saurus hero costing the same as vampires, and being the same but without being mage, healing themselves and swaping an amazing +1 atack for an op +1 to wound to saurus only. new engine is an absolute joke, a unit that mathecally will always damage himself and do nothing, unless you spend 2+ turns doing nothing, only to do a minor thing. t-rex doing less dmg than things like stormcast on dracoth but costing like double 😂im totally sure it will be as weak as idoneth book was, i know everyone will call me cryer and i dont know anyhing, same as happened on idoneth release, 2 years after numbers proved i was right an it has been among worst book whole edittion. this book will do the same, everything do waaaaay too low damage for his cost, and there arent any buffs in whole book, maybe you can get saurus to a balanced level if you gives them every buff only.

because it seems to be +1 in the bites roll, not +1 to hit on bites. and big dinos bites shouldnt be rules like 6 dices and every 4 is a mortal, should be profiles like usual

so that means every dino will loose 1bite? since his bites should be atack profiles, instead rules like saurus one aand if rival knows how to play saurus wont bite ever, since everyone will remove minis on front row, and bites need to be in 1" after every atacks, so they atack, rival takes front row. we cant bite,he actuvates, piles in 3" and fight like usual.... another change i dislike... great!

and engine of gods isnt priest neither. so lost every priest on army. wtf saurus getting his points doubled??? and troglodon keeping his joke high points. or solar engine keeping his absurded cost too when im totally sure we will loose the fire 2 times things. that keep him cloose to balanced before. those points are enforcing my prior fears about gw doing his typical thing on a "op" book at the time....

lol np i dont play any tournament, and not many games, ill buy new dinos for sure even if they have worst rules ever. but always infuriate me when see unbalanceds things, and locking to a cavalry doing less damage than every other and nedding to have 10 cavalry bases working together to do that... ticks me, or shotting ones even shotting 2 times still do like half dmg a ogre canon with infinite range etc lol and how can u think those chikens are the best sculps??? they are the worst unit by far to me. could have been dilophosaurus or any other dino, those chickens arent really like any dinosaur, in contrast those new raptors/deynonichus? im in love with them

yes. nedding 2 cavalry units to be cloose and atacking same target always in order to be balanced dont seems very fun. and those atacks are weak as ******, i know still have to see the mount but.... dont expect those chickens doing -10 rend atacks lol books are done like 1 year ago, when dinos were op. so i know book will be really weak to nerf them, problem is... seraphon is the weakest army right now after 100 nerfs, so book cant get it even worse right???? but every rule so far is weak as minimun.

dont get it. why seraphon box is 20€ more than chaos one??? everything inside will cost exactly the same as chaos one, and the things in the box didnt get a raise in price, so rise in price isnt an answer. boxes should have same % discount, if the things inside get a raise. box get a raise, but overall discount will be the same. but this box has same value inside than last 5 40karmyboxes and chaos one, but costing 20€ more, so with like 15% lower discount on it, reason???

this is a joke i guess?? noone can think gw will do 7-10 kits for every faction in a totally secondary game..... heck even most of aos factions havent that. if every faction get 1-2 oldest/finecast or metal units redone in first 3 years, would be better than i thought

based on playrate is even worst, having less than 2%last time i saw them( same as seraphons). based on 5/0s is the thire worst. having a whole 1 5/0 on this general, only better than giants( that cant win on galletians champs) and seraphons that were uterly destroyed on last 2 massives points nerfs. so on what would u base them

well like i said. krule are only a faction of a whole book. i know some guys hate soups, but... the tome is called bug wagh and it is above average..... if someone wanna play only a fraction of a book with only 1 specific pasive and hope to be as good as others book using his best build.. keep dreaming. idoneth book IS the worst one by far, droping them from above average with his 1.0 book to worst 3.0 book in every datashet, maybe among top 3 worst( like i said i dont count every orc faction like differents books). and still waitting the answer to the reason slaves got buffed despite having higher winrate, playrate,numbers of 5/0s, number on ket, number of tomes heck being better in everything haha but idoneth got forgotten like always

so even gw aknowledge more play= lesser winrate since more unskilled players play them. so they buff slaves. then GW: lesser played army like beast has more skilled players since more focused players play them. ge dont nerf them despite being overperforming. so i see my poor idoneths and seraphons. most underplayed facction by far with 1-2% play rate. so only real focused and skilled players , and lowest 2 armys on winrate( since orcs are bigwagh and they are above 50% even, not counting single factions in books). GW: totally ignores them, 0 changes 0 points drops and dont speak about them.

im guessing those books arent tomes and are new broken realms books, so new canoaign books. since they are different to others previous books

new lizards models are dope but im soooo sad my 4 units of cold ones must be rebased to bigger basses or trow them up, and gor rok...... it was my absolute favourite miniature and character and he just die.. im criying despite new raptors being so amazing

ill be happy only with the reveal of my saurus on cold one arent getting squatted, since they dissapeared from store, they are bring squatted or redone. my hopes are, new knights, kroxigors and gor rok, with a army box with 1 hero and 3 units like most of them( not like the joke box that lumineth one was).

wtf??? this temple is way cooler our seraphon one. aleays dislikee the things on the top, this one have plenty room for place miniatures and even more roots and platforms!! and is soooo weird, the warcry scenary box is sold cheaper than actual temple cost, so will new one have the new temple plus more trees etc for less money than only our temple??? only real shame is why it wasnt on our seraphon warcry box, i didnt buy it because scenary sucked, this one is cool as ****** and i want it!

model is nice but... dont like feathers going out of head, or future scifi thing brainwashing it or new skinks heads... but in general it is a dimetradon and much better than actual one. ruleswise...... it has same stats as oldworld artillerys like empire one, and they hadnt been used never in all aos so it shows how terrible is. and being 4 hit 3 to wound means effect only has like 30% of happen, not counting rival save..... so dmg is useless and efect will happen once per game. hope it has other rules like +1 hit if skinks are alive and shots 2 times if dont move

im sure u are rigth till 6, then i guess we will get new knights and saurus hero on cold one. since gw always so mounts hero with exactly same pose in every army release would be 8, but gw never said we will get only 7, is guessed since they said 3 wasnt even half, but it could means we will get even 15 kits haha normal chamaleons must go away since huanchi are same unit, but i dont know how will they be sold.always same warcry box, or new box of 5 or 10?

who said it is a destru edittion? it is a beast realm edittion and seraphon revamp is a totally nedeed and great beastlike faction revamp. and second edittion was great, aos had a boom in every store. 3th...... has been really bad and slow so far, not only for destru players, gw ignored aos completly and focused in 40k while covid, and we know is release timers are around 3 years, so 40k continued like always but 3th aos got kicked in the balls and im sure we will have all our scheduled reseases of 3 years of 3th delayed to 5 yearsor so, making them more boring and slow

reason is, gw wont update every unit. so finecast is a nightmare and remplace all those units must have priority. actual cold ones are in plastic at least. without 1000 bubbles and warped/broken parts