JackStreicher

the whole background is a watermark (Artwork of the Hammer guy)

that made me think of an old 40K Meme:

What if we get a hammerer cavalry? (Dual kit with the riders)

I‘d recommend to do the following: Depending on the Mark you‘ll give them you could use the following models: -Blightkings, Bloodwarriors, conversion of Melusai for Slaanesh, Chaos Warriors with Kairic Acolyte Weapons for Tzeentch

On the topic of S2D having missed a mark I guess the most frustrating part is that GW just ignores it and they don‘t say „hey guys, maybe we were a little too tame with S2D, check out this new FAQ with slight reworks“ - everyone would be happy! So we‘ll have to wait another 2-5 years until there might be changes for us.

@Agent of Chaos how did you get 5cp? ^^ you can only get cp via battallions and you can only buy one. apart from that I made similar experiences. (Yet I have to add that the Chaos Lord on foot is a super hero slayer)

@LuminethMage very true. And we get to see a vanari auralan dawn hammerer

Yep, included in the (custom) rules. =} I‘d really like for s.o. to test them and give me some feedback about whether the army felt more interesting and more on par with other armies:

Nvm I re-reread it XD... yeah it's very odd... If that means phoenixes are getting a redesign then I am all in for it. Otherwise... did they mockingly call it a phoenix in order to not spoil anything?

100% this

I had to read the text twice too. They talk about the Phoenix on the shield.

Yes. I‘ve put some typos in (I just realized) and I didn‘t clarify that allied GREATER DAEMONS also receive the Aura of Chaos Allegiance Ability. It‘d be cool if GW added an rules as I posted them to a WD. My main goal was to give S2D a more meaningful interaction with Chaos as a whole while increasing their Power as an elite faction by a little.

Something I've been working on. I'll test this asaic. Feedback after testing is appreciated Chaos Resurgent.pdf

What bothers me most however is that when they announced StD I planned on playing 3-6 boxes of spire tyrants, since I expected them to be at least 1A,3+,4+,-,1 with some special dmg2 weapons for the champion. Well, look how far from any senseful Integration all those warbands except Iron Golems are. at this Point I am considering to go Disciples of Tzeentch or Slaanesh, though I don‘t want to

@sfe667 the first list looks absolutely fine. =} **and looks quite similar to most of my lists except that I usually squeeze in a War Mammoth.

Around here it‘s absolutely fine. You are be forbidden however to use 3rd party models in GW stores.

They only hit and wound on 4s with one attack each and no rend. That‘s nothing at least for me ^^ Yes you can.

It‘s not the chariots that are broken. It‘s the Warchanter buff ^^. It turns any well made unit into a god-like machine of overkilling murder.

1. Marauders, Daemon Princes, the Krakadrak with rend Artefact Lord, Buffed up Chaos War Mammoth, Archaon, Warshrine, Host of the Everchosen Varanguard. That’s pretty much it 2. I would not call them useless: for cabalist lists you get something out of „The fang“ and Iron golems Are in general good to hold objectives. Yet non of the warbands will ever deal any damage at all. 3. If you only have the heroes for the sake of it =} if your heroes don‘t fullfil a role on the battlefield then you are usually better off taking other units instead. Yet if you love those models then there‘s nothing wrong with using them =} „Godsworn Champions of ruin“ is a battallion.

... idk I am pro-new units because it’s healthy for army building yet gameplay-wise I am against a „Trollol look at my chariot, my chariot is amazing: For 100 points and a Warchanter buff I get a dmg potential of 44...“-Situation.

It would be utterly time consuming and they‘d have to Re-do all the models (depending on the way they create sculpts) to make them poseable. @PiotrW I don‘t think you will fare well with the list: You Lack damage big time and you‘ve put too much points into units that won‘t do anything for you (cultists other than iron golems). You‘re also pretty heavy on the hero-side and your Army can‘t tank a lot of damage. if you really want your cultists to take part in a battle then you should remove them from your list, switch your subfaction to ravagers and summon them in during the battle. add some Marauders to your list and play 15 chaos warriors in one unit.

GW said that when they released the new start collecting. At least they said that the old Chaos Warriors are here to stay

Blackstone battery maybe 🤷🏼‍♂️ Greater daemons don‘t give anything to the army but their Warscroll-Power

Nope. the Portal does not displace the caster so that does not work as you don’t send a spell through the portal since you cast it on yourself