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The problem is the wording tends to say the unmodified part of the battleshock roll isn't a unmodified part anymore.
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This is my read too but everybody won't share this because of ambiguous wording. They should write "For save rolls and battleshock rolls, the modifiers below still apply (Rend/number of slain models),the roll is still considered as an unmodified roll"
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This was strong when you could cose to use one dice. A single destiny dice of 5 made at least a 10 cast roll for example.
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Tzeentch has divided the world by 0, he founds 9
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Yeah, Pretty sure the intention was destiny dice roll of 1 would work with pinks but the wording is kinda meh.
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You're right. This is (Imo) because Games doesn't really considered "model slains" as a regular modifier. But no rules in the core rules really validate this intention.
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And no rules in AOS that mention 1<2<3<4<5<6
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yeah but a kind of "alternative summoning table" is mentionned
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Totally agree with this feeling. The next version will be "you can only replace a roll by the same roll"
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Uh ? The LoC CA have always affected daemons only, no ?
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This is what is intented but the formulation isn't 100% clearto me because it's written "Destiny Dice count as unmodified rolls (except save rolls and battleshock rolls)" Some players are going to mention that to say a Destiny dice of 1 can't return d6 pinks.
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Omg that's why this unmodified dice roll rule formulation is so weird. There will be issues forever
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And problem with ****** models too. Arcanite part is fine (except Fatemaster Imo) but I find demon one a bit weird (except LOC ;p) To be short, there is a huge difference between new and old models !
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Yeah but Fatemaster is also terribly good with big block of acolytes (especially with the one which will shot 2 times ;p)
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Fatemaster seems nearly a must have in this kind of list in fact, especially if you run 6 or 9 enlightened
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Is it really clear now ?
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True. I should have learn to read :D...Ty !
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Quick question. How does the interaction between shackles (for exemple) and daemonrift works ? Do the shackles count as 3 endless spells ? Oo
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Ty ! Lists are available here ! https://tabletop.to/Tempest2020/
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Ty ! I could replace Ogroid with Changeling (But my heart is bleeding a bit), giving him treason of tzeentch. I would have 100 pts to spend. So i could fit the Spellportal and another (whatever ?) endless spell ! I think the Gaunt needs Wellspring of Arcane might because arcane suggestion is 8+ to succes, or i'll have to change (lol) his spell.
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Was thinking about that: Allegiance: Tzeentch - Change Coven: Guild of Summoners Kairos Fateweaver (400) - Lore of Change: Bolt of Tzeentch Ogroid Thaumaturge (160) - Lore of Fate: Infusion Arcanum Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch (240) - Artefact: Wellspring of Arcane Might - Lore of Fate: Arcane Suggestion Fatemaster (120) - General - Trait: Prophet of the Ostensible - Artefact: Brimstone Familiar 30 x Kairic Acolytes (300) 10 x Kairic Acolytes (100) 10 x Kairic Acolytes (100) 6 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (360) Witchfyre Coven (160) Total: 1940 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 107 I wanted to play with Kairos and an Ogroid and a lot of acolytes (maybe a bad idea since the beginning but i like these models and the ogroid/kairos combo ;p) I wanted my acolytes to be anything else than just bodies, so i was tempting by Witchfyre cult and Fatemaster As my Heroes doesn't really fit with pyrofane Cult artifact, I thought GoS Coven would be better (and Save some Command point with artifact and battleshock immunity) But, I'm afraid by a lack of bodies and spells, and being too much "30 kairic acolytes dependant" In fact, I'm also thinking about a "True GoS Coven" without battalion. What do you think ? (And sorry for my approximative english)
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Plus, Conflagration and/or changehost will be probably nerfed asap (or not)
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Uh ? Maybe i forgot something but you can't summon 10 pinks in Guild of Summoner.
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Totally agree. I'm sold The main issue for me is 2/3 LOC will be unplayable outside this configuration and very "battletome-dependant".
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I would like to play a build like this too. Blue scribes seem really tempting as you play a lot of casters. I'm thinking to add some kind of TZAANGORS to have a bit more staying power/damage and better use with agendas.
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