Tropical Ghost General
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+ great looking models, that are getting better and better
+ AoS is a fun game when both players take well rounded/garbage lists, as it truly creates combats that last more than a single player turn
+ narrative side of gaming
+ the general player base and online content from various heroes of the hobby (honest wargamer, aos shorts, etc...)
+ the wide range of available armies to play
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- rules for matched play have been a steadily increasing 'one up manship', which is fine except when older factions aren't updated, it creates a serious case of 'haves' & 'have nots'
- unwillingness to change warscrolls, which are free to access. Most players would prefer updated warscrolls than outdated books
- limited content (WD battalions, boxset battalions, anniversary models) being given matched play points and then removed from matched play not long after. For example it's not difficult to reprint the battalions in GHB20, but taking away something that is limited, that people have built armies around is just unnecessary
- auto kill units. By this I mean that the power level of stuff to auto delete it's intended target is ridiculous and leads to un-interactive games where all you do is remove your models
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6 hours ago, EnixLHQ said:
How is it either "limited" or "not everyone can have it" if the points exist in a book and the models aren't anything special?
These battalions are limited because it's published either in limited edition boxsets or in a limited print run monthly magazine. Just because people have taken pictures and put them up on the Internet, it doesn't matter, as that content is the legal IP of FW, and unless they themselves have published that full content that everyone can get access to, and access at anytime, then the content is limited.
Yes it's frustrating, yes it could be handled better, yes I wish it wasn't the case, yes I want the battalions to stay, but going on last year's experience of how GW handle non-GHB content, it's incredibly foolhardy to assume that it's going to be included.
I have already sent an email to rules team, asking these questions. Did it on the Monday after general release. Have encouraged other. NH players to do the same (more voices = more attention, etc...). I am fully behind wanting to see NH supported as a faction by GW, but considering the magic and shooting heavy dominance of Lumineth, lizards, CoS, Tzeentch, KO, mixed Order, we honestly needed more than a pathetic scattering on points drops to rarely uses units and certainly didn't need our best battalions (WD ones) removed from matched play. Going forward, when events start up again (which is happening August time) hopefully our win rate at events will drop low enough that some fixes will take place, but then again look at the treatment that Slyvaneth got from this GHB20.
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1 hour ago, EnixLHQ said:
I can't speak about the Fyreslayers
Fyreslayers were the first WD battalions that had matched play points. That was the June issue. None of them were in GHB20. Citing that NH WD battalions might he included because they were printed in December, after the CoS book, but ignoring the fact that the fyreslayer WD battalions were left out is sticking your head in the sand.
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Regarding Warscroll Builder. It's been updated with the information currently available to everyone. So WD battalions are still in and mercenaries are currently out, because the FAQ hasn't been released to confirm either one's existence yet. Current Lumineth points have been included because they have been published in the limited edition battletome. Once the FAQ is out, it will get updated again.
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1 hour ago, EnixLHQ said:
out after November last year isn't in the GHB2020,
Fyreslayers WD stuff isn't in the GHB20 and that was June. Cos book was October iirc. So 🤷🏾♂️
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Just now, RuneBrush said:
Cut them some slack!
The situation around the GHB release has been poorly done though. 40k has already had FAQs and it's not released until 25th June. The GHB is the big main update to the game we play, and yet they've abandoned the app, not bothered with the points releases for the 8 factions needing them, offered no news or other insight as to what is going on. We all have moments in our life's where we are busy and struggle to commit as much as we'd like, but even during those busy times we still have time to send a quick message to say 'hey, we've not forgotten about you' which GW haven't done for AoS at the moment.
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In answer to the original question of the thread: No
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With regards to the AoS app. Listening to Monday AoS Honest Wargamer and they mentioned that the team behind the app have said that they are focusing on the 40k app and will come back to Azyr app.
I've never paid for it, only used the free version, but I'd personally be cancelling my subscription if I was paying for a product that the manufacturer has admitted that they aren't bothering to update, especially during a critical period for the game (GBH release).
Truly poor show on GW's part. And honestly the whole GHB feels like a damp squib of a release. Very little previews, very little focus from the community site. If gargants aren't dropped before the end of the month, it's truly a sign that AoS is the unloved step child of their franchise 😂.
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OK team.
I know that point changes are inbound, so this all might change.
But how would you run an all gutbuster list at 1k?
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58 minutes ago, ACBelMutie said:
If Legion of Grief can't be played because it doesn't appear in the General's, the Great Alligances can't be played then, because they don't appear in the General's.
Legion of Grief and Grand Death Alliance don't appear in the allies table, so can't you play Grand Death Alliance?
Greetings
Not quite true. This is from the first page of the points book of GHB20. It says if you have no faction rules then use grand alliance. Then the tables at the end each grand alliance points show the various different factions, where grief isn't listed.
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Mannfred is my personal favourite in the Slyvania Families range
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8 minutes ago, EnixLHQ said:
And why aren't they?
No points in the GHB20. Currently anything published prior to GHB that doesn't get points values in no longer matched play legal, it's what made the mortality glass guardian of souls redundant.
It's been announced that anything published from Cities of Sigmar, or later, will get an FAQ update. And while CoS was released in early October, and the WD with the NH battalions was published in December, many have stated that this means that they'll be included in the FAQ. The issue with this is that Fyreslayers had the first WD battalions with matched play points, and that was published in June WD, so 3-4 months prior to the CoS book release. Yet Fyreslayers points in GHB20 don't have any of the WD battalions mentioned with points values, so therefore they aren't matched play legal.
It's probably been done due to 2 reasons. The first being limited access, not everyone can access the information (at least not officially) so it creates an unfair advantage for those who have been able to access it (similar reasons to why the mortality glass wasn't given points and removed from matched play last year). The second being that certain WD faction stuff has been stupid *cough, cough, Slannesh, cough, cough*, so it's a good chance to remove a stupid content of this nature.
And the mortality glass being given points in the compendium is a low blow. Compendium can't be included in the army even as allies, only if you take Grand Alliance rather than NH. It may be that some TOs allow it, but it's going to be solely down to the discretion of the TO and event organisers.
The other slight concern is the lack of legion of grief in the list of Death armies. Each GBH has a list of all the factions in a grand alliance, which has an updated list of the allies for each faction. They've listed all of the separate legions for legions of Nagash, of which grief is a weird step-child version of one of them, yet it's not been included. Again this might not be an issue but not being mentioned is not a good sign.
Anyway, this is just my own musings and I am hoping that I get proved wrong.
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It's been a long time since I've been on this chat.
What's everyone doing now that the WD battalions are no longer matched play legal?
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@Greasygeek that table is 👌👌👌.
What's the paint formula used?
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To further illustrate the point above.
First pic is the royal family battalion. None of the unit entries are in bold. But the battalion description has Courtier in bold, meaning that the bonus applies to any of the courtier options (varghulf, crypt ghast, crypt infernal & crypt hunter).
Second pic is the attendants at court battalion. In the battalion bonus Abhorrent Ghoul King is in bold. This means that the bonus applies if your general is any of the ghoul kings (GKoZD, GKoTG and regular GK).
The royal family unit requirements does not allow the 2-6 ghoul kings to be any of the options, because it's not listed in bold and the entry above also clearly shows the ghoul king on various mounts.
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On 3/16/2020 at 7:28 AM, XReN said:
They are wrong, it's written in the core rules, in case of GKs on Mounts the "Abhorrant Ghoul King" is the title and "on Royal <mount>" is a sub-header which doesn't need to be included to be legal to take in battalion.
This only applies when the unit is written in bold type. The royal family battalion clearly states that the 2-6 regular ghoul Kings and is not written in bold type. (See attached pic from Khorne book as reference. )
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4 hours ago, Neck-Romantic said:
Anyone else working on their ghosts?
Currently working on 36 myrmourns, which have been removed from their scenic bases (as much as possible).
Also finished (minus the basing) a mini resculpt of Garkorr, to be used as a vamp lord ally.
(Top pic is in darker lighting for showing paint job. Bottom pic is under normal lights for showing bling bling chrome of the paint job. I'm not a good painter by a long shot, but chuffed with how this looks.)
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@Vasshpit those are gorgeous.
What sculpting putty are you using? It doesn't look green, so assuming it's not greenstuff.
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54 minutes ago, King Under the Mountain said:
Shadow - DoK
Light - Lumineth
Fire - Fyreslayers (!)
Metal - Kharadron Overlords (!)
Death - Flesh-Eater Courts (or any Death really)
Beasts - Ironjawz (or any Destruction really)
Life - Sylvaneth
Heavens - Stormcast Eternals6 out of 8 being Order seems a bit much tbh.
I think the dark elf warband is a precursor to the long awaited shadow elves, rather than 7/8 new warbands to represent the various realms. But who knows at this point
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@MKsmash cheers for the help. Not being able to test the lists is tricky.
I might swap out the CP for pendulum. It's a good guarantee for mortals.
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Does it not help having spare for stuff like reroll charges or the Bloodgullet command ability?
Should the points be used for stuff like endless spells maybe?
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4 hours ago, MKsmash said:
I eventually realized the extra cp wasnt helping me
Does it not come in handy turn 1 for giving the 2 x 12 gluttons battleshock immunity?
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4 hours ago, Zorki said:
You're actually looking for a competitive list ?
As competitive as possible?
(which I know without any FLoSHs, means that it's not that competitive 😂)
I was thinking Bloodrock, but even though with Bloodgullet and balewind, you can get 3 casts but only the single unbind. I figured the 5++ shrug would give a bit of a better longevity.
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OK Fellow Fatties
What's your own versions of the ultimate Gutstar?
With lockdown I'm doing lots of list building and I'm currently thinking:
- Tyrant (General - 'Drop of red stuff' trait - 'Splatter-cleaver' relic)
- Butcher ('Shrunken Head' relic - 'Blood Feast' & 'Ribcracker' spells)
- Slaughtermaster ('Fleshcrave' & 'Greasy Deluge' spells)
- 12 Gluttons, 12 Gluttons, 8 Ironguts, 2 Leadbelchers, Balewind, Extra CP.
Running it in Bloodgullet with Goremand battalion. Overall is 3 drops, 1990pts.
So what's everyone else's ultimate Gutstar?
What tweaks/tips have people got for using their versions of Gutstar?
Mechanics to make going second more appealing.
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We played a similar form of Blade's Edge quite a lot at a narrative night I ran pre-covid. The main difference we had, was that whoever lost the priority roll got to remove the objective. The the other player decides to go 1st or 2nd. It opened up the balance and decision making a lot more and didn't put all of the power in the hands of the priority roll winner, as they could play with the intent of choosing to go 2nd and then also remove the objective, which we found was what happened. (FYI - I love the priority roll in case my above statement might say otherwise 😁)