Honk

🤔 debatable, my higher math education guesstimates around 15 damage per melee... but most attacks look pretty swingy. so charging two at a time might spell trouble

Probably ends in a disaster, but fun, nonetheless... with the extra capping power of gargants but a fast gristlegore list 🤔 playing the activation game to one-two punch one gargant at a time. If a gatecrusher activates, somethings going to die... or flayers flapping to cap lonely objectives ( maybe blisterskin with fly high rule 🥳) Possible but a challenging match up in position and tactics. gargants kinda sound like the stonehorn lists... carefully thought out battleplan is to rush forward

CC was probably planned for autumn of '20, then got tumbled around through real life... all their rules are just too much LoN, for the now tight releases I hope not too much got lost in confusion, but SBGL was planned long ago, all models and their molds ordered and payed for... second printing is the only sensible option, all will be fine.

The situation is suboptimal, a bit back&forth and then some sales management hype followed by a hard counter reality check... the nurgle world tour has left all the supply lines and international networks in tatters. And with that, small cogs can ruin the day (week) halfway round the globe, without somebody ever thinking of such a minor detail doing the butterfly effect. Example transport and their standard containers, they kinda got left/stuck in the west, so there is a shortage in the east. Same goes for all steps in the process of making things... building wood just doubled in price, throw away lab articles (plastics) are scarce and productions not reliable. same goes for the warband that is sold out and uncertain when it will be available again. that is not negative and pessimistic, it is just the reality. my Hope is that GDubs , fortified by the brave consumer who bought out the whole stock day one, keeps its cool, lets the designers and tester have their time and doesn’t do anything rash. the interest in CC was huge, so, plan a Second Print, when things are planned again. SB book is probably written but some factory decided to go medical plastic instead of minis, just wait a while. tease some rules, with pieces that you can deliver, if the fear of IP damage is too great and communicate openly how what and hopefully when. and if SB comes as SB and a new deadwalker book... 🍷🧛🏻‍♂️🎊🧟‍♀️🥃

While the last year has been stressful and the current situation is dire, integrating FEC into SB... no way, step into the wrong direction. if the problems are as big as stated, I would rather wait another three month for a good and well done release, instead of something with a couple of torn out pages and screwed up rules. And the hick up with the products is one thing, but after the sacred molds have been carved and anointed... plastics has to flow

That would be a nice thing. Up till now there is a fancy Wight on steed and two mildly deranged vampires. yes new bloodknights Cool, but I still hope for more

Ultra-Troll Mode... Monday is the AoS 3.0 announcement 🥸, just to keep us in despair till Sunday 🤣👍

Have I played that wrong? I always thought you‘d have to give your general the court artifact (together with the trait)... ? It says „first hero has to take“, I never realized your general could pick second 🤯🙈😂

I thought about the grave robber trait... 🤓

A Soulblight vs LRL battlereport, now that sounds very interesting balanced and fun 🙈🤣

With Hollowmourne court, shouldn’t your varghulf (general) be the carrier of the Gauntlet? Making him „the real smashbat“? The extra summoning through the king sounds interesting 🧐 I cheese in an infernal as general with wizzard trait for battleline, free trait extra regen, feast day aaaand same magic as ghoulking (+40 points), but I guess preferences vary 🥳👍

Please do not be offended... but what? Who? How? We’re on totally uncharted territory then 🤣 For me personally, that’s what being a casual gamer is all about... and what I like about the broad approach to my main armies (FEC & LoN) Just ran a gristlegore menagerie for fun, all terrorgheists 🥳 I ran a try hard mordant/smashbat list With LoN I go 120+ models in a LoNight, I play 20 Knights in LoBlood. Deathmarch, first cohort I think in all these discussions, the extremes are mentioned (same for me!), but the armies and the possibilities should not be measured by the most broken WAAC- or Dumbsterfire-lists... We had Skyfire/ Clowncar / Kurnoth shooting before and people will adapt to LRL and KO, same as eels. Bach before FEC 2 Ben (?Souza?) scored 5th in a big event because of tactical acumen, with a back then terrible faction. The big events are missing and so the ideas for counterplay are a big lacking... I hope they’ll make AoS 3.0 fun, without killing off factions or forcing people to take certain things. But writing carefully balanced rules in well designed books, that sounds like fiction 😂

Well, maybe the details, but I could see a certain way of double turn mitigation, although burning your own objectives sound stupid, but it is a sore point for some. generic battalions, maybe somehow, but since the armies are very different, the battalion with a hero, one fast elite and one battleline unit gets rule X can either be valid or stupid, just like now... I’d rather have better more integrated detachment rules like 40k, so I can take a flock of flayers into my Legions, with full fec benefits... Charge reactions? maybe, but the costs should be really significant. if you’ll try to charge sentinels and they crit-fish you to death (-1 who cares) cause the spell lasts a round 🙄 More active opponent phase? Sounds funny, maybe we’ll just play the activation game through all phases, no more dedicated turns 🤯 and bookkeeping for days

Well, if all fails, GDubs still makes a lot of money, because AoS 3 then will burn all books... if max modifier is -2 what are 30 plaquebearers going to do, when being shot at? All points, all synergies would have to be revamped by a team that is known for hit and miss rules. maybe the revamp of command points to a more generous 40k like level could be ok, with a more active approach for such abilities (which also then need to be rewritten) this sounds really concerning, didn’t play WHF during Endtimes, but this must be the feeling... we will change everything for better, that will be fun for everyone, then Nagash summoned 2k models onto the table each turn 🤣👍shortly after summoning was worthless 🙈

🍷🧛🏻‍♂️ vait Vhat?!? That sounds like the stupidest most uninspired idea ever... oh fudge 😓

Welcome to the brave and chivalrous Defenders of Innocence 🗡🥳🔪 I never had success with magnetizing my models, so it all depends on what you‘ll want to play...and how allergic you are against proxy-models. QfT... if forced to make a statement 12 flayer and 6 horror. So mordants can go 6+6... but the numbergame and musing over variations is on and slowly but surely will drive you crazyyyyyy!!! and don‘t forget you‘ll need at least 2 courtiers and 2 varghulf as for everybody musing about AoS 3.0: well, the book is still there and will be for at least a year. Points and with that the meta might change, but that can be a thing with every FAQ, that wrecks your list with point adjustments or some editor got crushed by something and writes a nice commentary nerfing your rule into the ground.

QfT... to be honest, Nagash has the best lore which is cartoony AF 🤣 what do Fyreslayers want? Pants? Boots? oh no, we wage war for gold 🙄 Hopefully, after 5 years most factions are present and they chantry to Flesh it out beyond, we came we conquered, then we got plot stomped, repeat

What @mrteigesaid... your list is not legal, no mordants without varghulf. The hollowmourne smashbat is brutal, but the variations are many with a lot of back and forth thinking. AoSCoach just had a nice YT video about FEC and they had some nifty insights. I‘m not the biggest fan of your first list, imo horrors are worse than flayers. Second one without extra CP, only 10 ghouls but with an extra infernal and palisades... he is general in feast day and gets to be a wizzard. but the AoSCoach list had 40+10 ghouls 6Flayers 6horrors 🤔 also sounded nice. in the end, it is the general who makes the army, not the list (sad truth of my life)

I hoped for chaosdwarves, but your point is valid too... 😂👍

Well, that’s the main thing isn’t it? GDubs selling the setting short, because the fluff is not really fleshed out and they somehow can’t be bothered to... claim the realms? Listening to some audible novels and fe undying king, neferata or soul wars hint at a rich setting and a variety of interesting factions in Shyish ... then the next book drops and it‘s kinda lackluster. the slaneesh story and morathi while kinda interesting,again, revive the old world. Hey look, it‘s teclis and be‘lakor hoe you two been? And Alariell, nice... maybe we find the son of Orion somewhere and all is just kinda piecemeal and with small incoherent bits. Hyish full of Bushido crazy furry elves? What are Orks up to? How and why? some realms are exclusive, like azyr, but in Shyish everybody has an outpost and whines about the noises during nighttime... GET OFF MY LAWN, BREATHING FILTH GW, get your fluffwork done, officially, can’t buy all the army books

I hope for a clash of soulblight with the necromancers... just some more weeks and we will face reality 😬

Did he even leave the 2nd Edition ? after Teclis put on his plot armor and Big N is done cackling and doing stupid suicidal stuff, things are left in disarray... Nagash was the supreme ruler of Death, not unlike all the Chaos gods together, the parts of the Grand Alliance will crumble without him putting them into place. With Arkhan in dire straits and Mannfred footslogging... the powervacuum will leave a lot of room for interesting figures.

Talking about Bad Gandalf and his angry hobbit? With the current status of Inspiration the designers have shown, I‘m torn between resurrected old world fluff and doing something new. it would be great to see vlad/kemmler/😻Abhorash😻 back, because the fluff was well written and cool. and an extra necromantic hero is a bit missing, also the cursed city design and the two shown vampire heroes are pretty cool... not in the 250+ point range which I would like but still looking good. on the other handside the ruminant cheeselords are furry abominations and riding gnus, soooo a lot could go wrong 😢🧐🙁😬 maybe the new varghulf and the flying fox are out of the same mind and luckily I’m playing undead... anxiety is taking over, need to decompress while inhaling airbrush fumes

I say ghorst on a corpse cart🤣 or van helsnich the old manticore tamer

Yes, but one can dream and it is the idea to have a bigger better Necromancer Lord