Carnith

so i noticed Khorne and Tzeentch got rules added to their army that says "on a role of 1 for battleshock, add d6 and no models flee" but nothing to slaanesh. Think it was implied.

The way I view it, if I take mortal slaanesh and take chaos lords and other 5 wound heroes, they are unlikely to see combat to generate depravity, and only gain me 4 depravity in return. I typically take a few chariots and a keeper anyways, so for me, it's a bigger boon as they will generate half of their points in depravity, plus whatever wounds they do. Now, I will agree, Daemon Princes may be better overall for being to strike first at whoever, gaurenteeing a chance to do more depravity than a single herald on chariot.

i like the Blade from Shyish to give +2 dmg on hit. You can put that on the blade or claws for either 4 or 5 damage swings. Really would bring down many foes quickly.

Mind you the masque only slows movement and not runs and charges. It'll be good for shoving the masque up to make your opponents move slower. Perhaps a bunch of daemon princes will help instead of chariots. I wonder if the exalted keeper will see a points drop. What artefacts are you guys looking at for new edition? Taking the trait for +1 hit and a relic from the realm list that activates on 6+ hits is an obvious good choice. The cloak from Chamon is good for moving over models. 60mm is small enough to hop over enemy models for a 3+ to do d3 MW. The Lens from Hysh for -d3 mw from spells is good, or the brooch of 5+ command point. Cause whats better than getting 1 squad double pile in? MORE SQUADS WITH DOUBLE PILE IN! If my opponent doesn't want realm artefacts or malign sorceries, then good ol' breathtaker.

Heralds are 4 depravity points for 60 Heralds on Regular chariots are 5 depravity for 100 Heralds on Exalted Chariots are 8 depravity for 160 Daemon princes are 7 depravity for 160 Keeper of Secrets are 9 depravity for 260 Chaos Lords on Manticore are 11 points for 240 Sorc Lords on Manticore are 11 points for 200

Herald and Masque are low scoring depravity. Take heralds on Exalted Chariots. They are the same price as daemon princes for +1 depravity. Also based on the rules for mortal wounds, they are treated as wounds for rules purposes, they should grant depravity if mortal wounds were done on the charge by a chariot. If depravity gets errata'd to be only wounds and not mortal wounds, I think you'll have a better time with DP's as the chariots throw out a bunch of attacks but with no rend. YMMV overall. Your battleline is exactly what I take in my battleline for pretenders. Also remember, keeper of secrets are 20 points less. You have 140 points leftover. You could take 3 endless spells, not really worth it as your keeper is your only caster. Overall, your depravity for your own heroes dying is 38. Look for maybe higher wound heroes instead of herald and masque. If MW's cause Depravity, then chariots could be a better bet (though a pain to assemble). Also if this is the case, wounds caused by spells would be a great source of depravity, as a chaos sorc on manticore can cause a fair number of wounds without retaliation. If you leave points for spells, take cogs or geminids. Geminids can outpace your army, with being set up 18" away from caster and move 8" the turn they are set up, allowing you hit your enemy with 2d3 mortal wounds on some squads. If you get double turned, you can throw the geminids around with impunity, hurting your enemy more. If you get priority turn 2, the geminids cannot hurt you unless you manage to get into combat turn 1. Mortal wounds done this way can in no way generate depravity as it is not from a hero, so be careful about not losing depravity, unless the batter is heavily in your favor.

Slaanesh is going to love any army that brings multi wound models. Part of things will be bringing quite a few beefy monsters. If you bring any exalted chariots, you should absolutely make them a herald. It gives you Locus procs, also it gives 8 Depravity points. Some lists I thought of gave around 51 depravity, assuming all starting heroes died. I might change my list to be 3 Exalted Chariot Heralds. When all of them die, it gives me another keeper of secrets (Which i'll proxy using an orruk megaboss, same base size, and my current keeper is a conversion).

Oh, I'm totally fine with that. That makes sense. Models being outright removed should generate no points. But if I get bonezone'd, I'm getting dealt those wounds. Currently, my plan is how to shove as many depravity points into my list. Right now, I'm at around 51 from just my heroes dying. A Seeker's list I created has everything that can move more than 12" getting a +4 to move with casting cogs, has 3 heralds on exalted chariots, keeper, chaos sorc on manticore, and a daemon prince. the rest of the units of just a bunch of fast moving units like hellstriders and seekers of slaanesh. A different list is for pretenders. Im trying to get those same 51 wounds in. 60 daemonettes and 10 hellstriders as my base. But im running into about 160 to 200 points unused if I move my chaos sorc on manticore to regular chaos sorc. But im losing out on 7 depravity points. I still need to fit in cogs. and depending on if Exalted gets a buff in points, maybe just switching out the keeper for exalted might be a good bet.

True, but rereading the page, it seems like the guy got his info wrong. It's for each wound that hurts the hero but does not slay them. If you did 15 wounds to my keeper of secrets, 9 of them did not kill my keeper, it should stand to reason, I should still get 9 points.

Okay, here's a starting off question. I just watched Stormcast 12, which has one of the designers say that killing a keeper of secrets in one combat phase rewards slaanesh with no points, but this is counter to what has been seen, such as a Keeper murdering a squad of liberators in one go, giving 5 points. Edit: If this is how it is intended, how does this make you feel about summoning? Cause under the way it is described in the GHB, it is done very well as slaanesh wants to now max out heroes. If it's done this way, where if we lose heroes, we score no points, a lot of heroes become non-choices again. I can't see the point of taking the foot/mount herald or the masque as they are too squishy to even give points. Same with mortal slaanesh, it'll be hard pressed to take 5 wound models as they are less likely to return their points.

Somewhat nice as my store has its birthday in july.

I know managers in the states are in Texas this week getting ready to go for Second edition. I had initially decided to take a break from aos for some 40k, but with second edition being announced and being absolutely excited for everything so far announced, I'm back to playing sigmar when I can get up to my GW once a week.