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52 minutes ago, Aelfric said:
NPE stands for Negative Play experience - a phenomenon many players are quick to spot in armies other than their own.
For sure! Yesterday had a guy complain all game how eltharion was overpowered.... even as he slaughtered everything else and would have won on objectives! I was for sure feeling that the daughters FNP was a negative play experience 😜
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10 hours ago, Tiberius501 said:
Where are your archers to cover your wall of shields!
It does sound like you made a couple of mistakes which would’ve changed things quite a bit. 3+ saves instead of ethereal, Protection of Hysh as well might’ve been handy against such a killy opponent.
Also I HATE random turn rolls, me and my group houserule it out because it’s been more of a detriment than fun in our experience. So I can understand why that hurt you quite badly, but I also understand a lot of people aren’t lucky enough to be able to houserule it out.I’d be interested to see how you go in another game.
I only could afford 1 squad at 1000pts! My list is as follows:
-Eltharion (did very well, though I had some bad luck with his saves)
-General Cathallar w/ Gift of Celennar, Fast learner, Eclipse (never was able to cast) and Ethereal blessing (didn’t get to use)
-20 wardens w/ Ethereal blessing (got wiped on the double turn down to 2 guys, but the casualties managed to kill the sisters in return with the cathallar’s ability so yay?)
-10 wardens w/ Protection of Hysh (did a hail-Mary charge on a chariot w/ an awakened statue of Khaine and forgot to use aether quarts again. Come to think of it this would have been the best target for the darkness of the soul ability and archers)
-10 sentinels w/ speed of Hysh (I was nice w/ this unit and didn’t hero snipe turn 1, which probably lost me the game)
-5 Dawn riders w/ Lambient light (I moved them way too far forward and forgot to charge them because of Game rust, admittingly, which would have helped later on with the hordes of sisters)
I agree the random turn order sucks Ork balls, but I play to prepare for tournies so I gotta think about it. IT happens, but Until they get rid of it may as well use it, right?
8 hours ago, Gecktron said:Horde breaking? Do you mean the Crystal Touch of the Blood Sisters? Just a quick heads-up, its one dice per Melusai, not per model in the target unit. So its better against smaller units.
If you played it like this, forget that I said anything. But thats a common mistake with abilities like this.
Nah, I meant the Medusa thing and was confused. The Medusa hits everybody in a unit within 12”, which my opponent didn’t tell me about till it happened. Killed 8 even before the big fight, so next time I think I will have protection of Hysh on the Cathallar as a “Just in case” ability.
6 hours ago, LuminethMage said:@Acid_Nine Don’t worry, there is really a lot to remember with the Lumineth, AoSReminder is a godsend when playing them. And even using that tool, my head was spinning the first few times playing them. And all that thinking about their abilities and what to do can lead to making general strategic/tactical misses.
I’d recommend playing Syar when you start out with them. This lets you get used to Aetherquartz fast, and 2 AQ are super useful in itself. You also can experiment with the extra spell and other AQ abilities more, and not just use them for better saves.
Your Warden are great, but they still have only one wound, especially if you don’t have Protection of Hysh/Teclis, they still can die fast. But also make sure to remember the better stats when they are attacked and your mortal wound ability. This alone can make sure that your opponent has to roll for batteshock which you then can make really hurt.
Also, make sure to not forget Darkness of the Soul, the Warscrolls spell of the Cathallar. This is such a good spell against threats like a nice block of 20 Witch Aelves for example. Choosing and using your spells correctly is also really important for a Vanari-focused army.
@Allonairre The Lore of Wind/Hurakan could potentially have a teleport spell which normally lets you re-set up your units, which would mean you could put them back into a Shining Company. Not super likely, but not impossible. As a command ability, yup, the Bannerblade or the Lord Regent would be the logical choices for something like that.
I need to get the AOS Reminder printed, yea! I like Zaitrec so I wanna continue pushing to play them, but I will take Syar under consideration. Darkness of the soul is bloody great and I wish I was in range T1 for it! I did take turn 1 so I could get my buffs off before the enemy shot me to hell, which may have also lost me the game because I was too aggressive with my movements. I think I may continue to do 1,000 points just to get more experience, and switch up the lists a little.
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Finally had my first game with the lumineth versus the new daughters of khaine and it was basically game over bottom of turn 2. I did mess up some things, but boy the lumineth had a whole lot to remember with them! I forgot they even had aether quarts reserves until my turn, and I vastly overestimated the usefulness of the spearmen @-@
the idea I had was to buff up my guys, walk them forward and present a strong front that could take a charge, which was looking good until the double turn, which deleted my big block of 20 guys and most of my manpower. I did cast ethereal blessings on them, but I realized it was a detriment TBH, because the main enemy had no rend which would have made my +1 to saves all the more worth while. Add to that the melusainhad a horde breaking mortal wound cloud and it was game over for me.
funny thing was the guy I played with was basically cussing out eltharion the entire time, and was even vindicated when he deleted half the 20 man block of witch aelves, but since we were playing star strike there was no way I could win on objectives so we called it
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Honestly I just wanna see the rules so I can finally build a list using more than 6 units
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3 minutes ago, Wyliekyote said:
Well, the Dawnriders only get one melee with their lance, so seem to fit the style so far. BUT its a missile and a melee weapon. So does that mean it can attack in both of those rounds?!? (and I like his command point generation!)
And how the Altairi Blade gains damage as the game goes on? Hmmmm. nice!
That is true, maybe he has the furrows ability the dawn riders have, and can gain extra attacks based off of the wound count. His sword may also be good, so we will see in the future! And yes, that does mean he can attack twice on the player’s turn.
I do like the damage stuff, but considering how most combat goes on around turn 2-3, the payoff won’t be too good. I do like how they can be allied with any armies too.
I am dying to see what the lore seekers are like too. Gimme Gimme Gimmie!-
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Yeaaaaaaa, I dunno about the attacks in melee. He looks fun though, and I hope any nation can take him (or ymetrica gets fixed beyond being cow boys)
ALSO, Ellathor is holding the perfect Fenestra guard too, which I am quite happy to see as a former historical fencing buff
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All I honestly plan to preorder is the lore seeker and the campaign book. I hope they reworked a few rules, but overall I am quite excited!
not excited to see how much this is going to break my wallet, but excited to see the new dudes! I am just happy to have a proper hero or two... and maybe have a list that doesn’t being Avalorn in it (despite how good he is)
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Annnnnnd that’s all I needed to get back into AOS. Need to finish painting up my archers!
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I wish I had time to play and paint now... I was dragged back into this by the new releases!
also, how is the army doing in general? fun to play / pretty competent as it stands?
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I just wanna see if there is any new warbands for cities of sigmar and the like. or if there are any updates to cards at all!
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off topic but the next guys look to be vamps, so apparantly all my armies are getting updated! sweet.
Gah still havn't even touched the rest of my archers! I am just too swamped with, but I know I need them.
and writing down my zaitec painting recipe here in case anyone else wants to play around with it:. I will use it again in the future when I don't have 10 tests to study for
Armor:White primer:
retributor armor
Burning Gold colorshift paint
Secondary armor like chain mail: nuln oil gloss instead of colorshift
Main Cloth: Blood Angels red contrast
Secondary cloth: shysh purple
Leather: Snakebite leather
weapon tips / embossed symbols: Leadbelcher steel with celestial azure colorshift on top
Shield: Black gloss for center oval, then Toxic purple colorshift for background metallic
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Has anyone had any success with big warden blocks? I wanna use them but from the videos I have been seeing and the dice I been rolling in my spare time, they seem super squishy.
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Anyone know if the sharks kept their scything fin attack? Cause if so, then holy carp that would be even better.
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anyone have any tips for hobby fatigue? I still got 8 sentinels to paint before my next ten wardens, and I am not looking forward to it...
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29 minutes ago, LuminethMage said:
So the book cover for Direchasm shows the sword fighter in more detail. Doesn’t look like she has something to do with the River Temple, as she hasn’t got any River runes on her. Could be of course be sue she is part of that specific group. Maybe we hear a bit more about them in the preview this week.
I’m dying for more lumineth lore and units, so I’m excited for this!
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@LuminethMage it does my heart good to see a zaitec list that did well with that list! A glorious battle being led by the most wise and glorious god, Celenar!*
I am also happy to see a list with a lot of Wardens too. my favorite models and the ones I plan on
spending the most onbuilding my army around! Not too bad of a sentinel spam either. Quite nice!*Teclis was there too I guess.
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15 hours ago, Gobboz said:
Interesting. I thought it was really bad and a slog to get through.
Spoiler:
It’s basically the same scene repeated over and over again. They get into some trouble and look like they’re all going to die, then they call on the mountain, and then the battle tips in their favor and they win. This same scene repeats itself at least 5 times.
I was really excited for this book as I had previously read The Sundering. They are miles apart in terms of quality in my opinion.
Different strokes I supposed, so glad you enjoyed it!
Yea, I admit that the flow of combat can be repetitive, especially as he gets his upgrade later in the book. I do like the moment to moment descriptions though, but now that you mention it the flow can be a problem with that.
still, I am liking the book so far and getting towards the end, which I am finding fairly interesting. I am liking the philosophy (as shallow as it is) but so far I am finding myself liking it for the most part. I will have to read the sundering novels to compare though.
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I know it was talked about before but I am pleasantly surprised by the Realm lords novel. I feel like it expands a lot on the Aralith Mythos, and expands on their ideology, thoughts and fighting style. I also liked the action quite a bit, but I feel the author’s description of the warden fighting with a pike is hard to visualize. I liked all the characters too, and the main character is quite fun to travel along with.
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awesome battle report, and sorry about the bad luck! I know how that can be, but overall thanks for the info! Can we have a before and after list?
the only thing that makes me sad is hearing how the wardens got stomped. I never like hearing that!
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So I am pretty interested to try some ethereal blessing on a squad of 20 wardens w/ the Auraulean legion buff or all out defense on them. I just played a game with my deepkin and my Ishlean guard (eels with an ethereal save) were the stars of the show, bouncing wounds off with just a 4+ unrendable save. I know the stone guard would be tankier, but the idea of a huge phalanx of guys with a 4+ save really appeals to me.
Then again it is reliant on a 6+ magic roll, which my last game also showed me can be very hard to get....
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It’s done! Finally completed my first 10 wardens in between studying for X-ray school.
Spoiler
I absolutely love how badass they look in a rank and file. Stunning miniatures, just hope that me raising the spears like that makes it easier to play games with them. I did find that the warden is pretty hard to add to the middle of the group and have all the spears facing forward because of his back banner, which is odd but not a deal breaker.
The models take a bit of time with my schedule, but I think I found my rythym of doing the clothing and armor one day, metal flesh and steel another, and finishing it with the color changing paints. I painted the shields separate and though you can’t see it here, the Toxic purple from green stuff world really makes the purple pop, and it is perfect for the ‘golden sunrise’ kinda look I was hoping for.
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awesome. It does my heart well to see the pointy elves get on the table. And also good to know they can do well! Also good to hear it was a close game. I asked before, but how did the wardens do? And can we get a list?
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7 hours ago, Vilge said:
Hi,
I have 3 games with Lumineth army. I want to share what happen... First of all I am totaly sure that I forgot some rules or done some mistakes. This army has a lot of rules stuff going on the table.
First two games was with this list: Ilithia Nation Teclis, Cathallar (general, ethereal blessing,simucra amulet), 2x10 Sentinels. 2x20 WArdens, Auralan Legion, Twinstones and spellportal.
First game vc goblins a lot of squigs, two mangles. I had first round, killed one mangler and wounded small heroes and also kill some models. Really powerful to use Teclis with spellportal in first round. Oponent did not roll any charge and did almost nothing in first round. In second I won the rolloff and killed all small heroes and also second mangler. In this case it wat win for me because we played scenarion where just heroes can score points.
Second game was against OBR - staliarch. To be honest I dont remember it well, he was able to charge me in first round a there was no way to do anythink...
Third game I change a list because Ican feel that lack of mobility is my main problem. Ilithia Nation Teclis, Cathallar (general, ethereal blessing,simucra amulet), 2x10 Sentinels. 2x10 Wardens,10 Dawnriders, 10 Soneguard, Auralan Legion, Twinstones and spellportal.
I played against Fireslayers, whitch is really bad matchup for Lumineth force. I took firs round killed two small heroes, took points and also made one big mistake with charging my horses to vulkite berserkers. I did it on purpuse to see them what they can do. It was my suprise that i killed 9 of them a he just killed two horses. In third round he won a rolloff and goes first. I forgot about spell from cathallar on heardguard unit and he was able to charge me and attack me... It was fun game and at last i saw them in combat. I am not really happy with stoneguard without big cow... I want use them anymore.
Tomorrow I will have next game and I will change a list again. I want to try Ilithia Nation Teclis, Cathallar (general, ethereal blessing,simucra amulet), 2x20 Sentinels. 2x10 Wardens,10 Dawnriders, geminids and spellportal.
At the end of the week we have tournament so we will see
How did the wardens fare? I wanna field a lot of them, so I just hope they do well!
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10 hours ago, ThalmorRepresentative said:
I have crossed the 50% assembly completion across my army, with 58 models assembled in total so far.
I'm 5 Sentinels away from completing my first unit of 20.
I have a stonemage, the last set of Wardens I need, and a Stoneguard kit that should arrive sometime tomorrow.
50%?! Geeze I gotta step up my game. I am almost finishing my first 10 since I got my paints! Well done good sir!
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Aos 2 - Lumineth Realm-Lords Discussion
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I think We’re missing something... Since they are sun metal, shouldn’t they be doing mortal wounds on 6’s? Not so good for the aimed strikes, but on the flurry? Where it’s every model within 2”?! Shoot, that can be a blender if used properly.
plus, The aimed strikes could be used against enemies like a 15 man squad of chaos warriors, where they have a 5+ Against mortal wounds and re-rolling 4+’s, just to whittle them down?