gmulroney Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Hey guys, I just picked up the carmine dragon model from FW since its very reasonably priced right now. I was wondering if anyone has used it and if it is at all worth the huge price tag on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immersturm Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Never used it (except from cutting it apart for conversions), but as for the rules... hard to say, actually. On the one hand, you have a pretty good melee unit with good movement, flying, 3+ and potentially devastating melee. Its ability is D6+X mortal wounds in most cases, which isn't quite Thundertusk level, but it can get good damage in if your dice are hot. On the other hand, the price tag is pretty big. It is not like Order lacks big hitters or ways of dealing mortal wounds. Still, I think it is worth a try. While nothing it does stands out on its own, it is the combination of a good save, save against mortal wounds, good melee and decent ranged ability as well as the ability to stop Wizards from doing stuff (which is pretty good on a model, that want to get close) makes is a good allrounder. If nothing else, it will be fun to use and is a solid centerpiece. But it may turn out to be the dogs bollocks. I must definitely test is in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCharisma Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have it and use it in every battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Quote It is not like Order lacks big hitters or ways of dealing mortal wounds. It's by some way their best Dragon/big monster option (mostly because of the relatively reliable and more attacks than normal -3 rend maw attack - most other non Monstrous Arcanum Dragons are only -2 rend from memory). Unlike Destruction, the artefacts and traits aren't such a massive factor giving the edge to generic monsters with hero riders (the Stonelord). A Stardrake with a Quicksilver Potion is good in some situations (but better at clearing regular infantry), but I would rather have the 16 inch move and the -3 rend for opening cans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 How big is it in comparison to say the forest dragon? Not quite sure I think it's worth more points than a Durthu (especially in my sylvaneth army with some items etc). Sure it does mortal wounds.. but Durthu can just deal tons of damage too, and be healed relatively easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immersturm Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Durthu is slower and does not have such a big threat range as the Dragon with this 16" movement and 10"(?) Mortal wounds. It bypasses bubblewraps. When moving and on the charge, he Dragon can fly over said bubble wrap as well. This is all Durthu can not do with pure Sylvaneth, given the lack of anti-horde shooting. As for the size (I cut mine apart, so I can not recall the original size), but it is somewhere between a Stardrake and an Elves Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Mine is on a CD as a base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmulroney Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Thanks for the reply guys. Guess he might not just be a display piece after all. I also got Von Draken on a carmine dragon. Since she doesn't have rules, what should I have her count as? A sorceress on black dragon or arch mage on a dragon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immersturm Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Why not both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saulot Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've always looked at Elspeth as a great Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCharisma Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I haven't put the former Nuln wizard in the back of my Dragon, mostly because of the rules. I'll probably magnatise her eventually. I only play matches play so no flexibility for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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