Expert Conquerors and Watchful Guardians

[Mortus]

In the new GHB the Expert Conquerors battalion makes Galletian Veterans count as 3 models on objectives. Also, if you choose Stormkeep, then Watchful Guardians makes Redeemers count as 3 models as well. Does this mean that a single model could count as 9!? For example, 5 Liberators would count as 15 models which would count as 45 models (5x3x3). What do you think?

[Dogmantra]

They don't stack. It doesn't say they count as three times as many models, it says they count as three models, so it sets the number of models they count as to three.

Imagine if you had a weapon with 1 damage by default, and an ability that said its damage characteristic is 3 if you charged this turn, and then cast a spell on it that said its damage characteristic is 3 until your next hero phase, if you charged you would not expect to do 9 damage.

 

There is a small merit to putting Stormkeep GVs into Expert Conquerers though, and that's that you can count as 3 on all objectives on the board from turn 1. But I don't think it's worth it.

[Mortus]

Thanks for your response. While you may be correct, I do not know if your example accurately reflects the wording of these rules. Both rules say "a model counts as 3 models": therefore, one model counts as three models, then those three models each count as 3 models. 

[Marcvs]

31 minutes ago, Mortus said:

Thanks for your response. While you may be correct, I do not know if your example accurately reflects the wording of these rules. Both rules say "a model counts as 3 models": therefore, one model counts as three models, then those three models each count as 3 models. 

They only count as 3 models *for the purpose of contesting the objective* and not for the application of other effects or abilities. So, when you apply the effect of the battalion/shield of civilisation they only count as 1 model, leading to the result of the effects not stacking.