Help for a starting kruelboyz + Gitz player

[Garrac]

So, as I said in earliwr threads, I'm starting a secondary army of greenskins, more precisely a Kruelboyz + Gloomspite Gitz army

 

My main army would bw kruelboyz because my main aemy are skaven and I want a less hordy army.

 

So what I have is the Dominion + Skull's Pass material:

 

-The 4 heroes from dominion

-3 boltboyz

-10 gutrippaz

-Madcap shaman and loonboss

-40 stabbas

-20 shootas

-10 spider riders

 

Where should I go next? Should I try to buy more dominion sruff? More heroes? More monsters?

 

(I suppose from the moment I won't add ogors, at least until GW hasn't updated the army)

 

Any answer is well received

Edited April 26, 2022 by Garrac

[Arzalyn]

Do you like Gitz trolls or are you interested mainly in the Grots?

If you like the trolls, they would be usable for both factions (I even remember seeing a troll gitz list using kruleboyz trolls even getting good results in a tournament recently). A Breakaboss and a Marshacrawla would be good buys for this route.

I can't help much with Gitz in general, but for the Kruleboyz part I can't recommend enough the Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker. He buff is really strong, helps your whole army, is good by himself and is a awesome models (IMO). A couple more boltboyz go in most list as well. You don't need more gutrippaz if you are ok with spaming the boltboyz, but if you don't like this route a extra unit of gutrippaz to round your minimum battleline is a good next buy as well.

[mrteige]

if you wanna build a Kruleboyz army with some gitz allied in then I would recommend finding 280 points and bringing in 2 units of 20 shootas as screens. They work very well in this army. A list could look something like this:

Allegiance: Kruleboyz
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs: Inspired

Leaders
Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker Beast (315)*
- General
- Command Trait: Supa Sneaky
- Artefact: Mork's Eye Pebble
Swampcalla Shaman with Pot-grot (105)*
- Lore of the Swamp: Choking Mist
Swampcalla Shaman with Pot-grot (105)*
- Lore of the Swamp: Sneaky Miasma
Breaka-Boss on Mirebrute Troggoth (180)*
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Mount Trait: Fast 'Un
- Lore of the Swamp: Nasty Hex

Battleline
9 x Man-skewer Boltboyz (360)*
- Reinforced x 2
-- WARNING: Unit may be invalid.
6 x Man-skewer Boltboyz (240)*
- Reinforced x 1

20 x Gutrippaz (360)**
- Reinforced x 1
20 x Shootas (140)**
- 3x Barbed Nets
- 1x Moonclan Flag Bearers
- 1x Badmoon Icon Bearers
20 x Shootas (140)**
- 3x Barbed Nets
- 1x Moonclan Flag Bearers
- 1x Badmoon Icon Bearers

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 1945 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 4 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 148
Drops: 9

 

you are quite a bit under but you can look into endless spells or be 99% sure of getting the triumph.

[Garrac]

First, thanks to the both of you for answering!

13 hours ago, Arzalyn said:

Do you like Gitz trolls or are you interested mainly in the Grots?

If you like the trolls, they would be usable for both factions (I even remember seeing a troll gitz list using kruleboyz trolls even getting good results in a tournament recently). A Breakaboss and a Marshacrawla would be good buys for this route.

I can't help much with Gitz in general, but for the Kruleboyz part I can't recommend enough the Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker. He buff is really strong, helps your whole army, is good by himself and is a awesome models (IMO). A couple more boltboyz go in most list as well. You don't need more gutrippaz if you are ok with spaming the boltboyz, but if you don't like this route a extra unit of gutrippaz to round your minimum battleline is a good next buy as well.

Um, I was going more towards a moonclan option for the allies because I have so many grots (60), I don't have any troggoths

6 hours ago, mrteige said:

if you wanna build a Kruleboyz army with some gitz allied in then I would recommend finding 280 points and bringing in 2 units of 20 shootas as screens. They work very well in this army. A list could look something like this:

Allegiance: Kruleboyz
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs: Inspired

Leaders
Snatchaboss on Sludgeraker Beast (315)*
- General
- Command Trait: Supa Sneaky
- Artefact: Mork's Eye Pebble
Swampcalla Shaman with Pot-grot (105)*
- Lore of the Swamp: Choking Mist
Swampcalla Shaman with Pot-grot (105)*
- Lore of the Swamp: Sneaky Miasma
Breaka-Boss on Mirebrute Troggoth (180)*
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Mount Trait: Fast 'Un
- Lore of the Swamp: Nasty Hex

Battleline
9 x Man-skewer Boltboyz (360)*
- Reinforced x 2
-- WARNING: Unit may be invalid.
6 x Man-skewer Boltboyz (240)*
- Reinforced x 1

20 x Gutrippaz (360)**
- Reinforced x 1
20 x Shootas (140)**
- 3x Barbed Nets
- 1x Moonclan Flag Bearers
- 1x Badmoon Icon Bearers
20 x Shootas (140)**
- 3x Barbed Nets
- 1x Moonclan Flag Bearers
- 1x Badmoon Icon Bearers

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 1945 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 4 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 148
Drops: 9

 

you are quite a bit under but you can look into endless spells or be 99% sure of getting the triumph.

Ok, point taken! Um, I don't have to be limited to comeptitive play, though. I want to start first with narrative play

 

So, first I need more boltboyz and a sudgeraker, for what I see, then I'll start the first expansion of the army with that units! Thanks!

[mrteige]

Sludgeraker, Boltboys and the shaman are the 3 best things about this army IMO so they will never be a bad buy + they look great. The mirebrute is also a great stand alone piece for the army and is great in a lot of lists

Edited April 27, 2022 by mrteige

[Garrac]

Oh, cool, because I like a lot the Breakaboss minoature!

 

Only one thing more, how is Gobbapalooza? The models are really awesome, but i don't know if the grots and the boyz benefit a lot from their pressence

[Malakree]

On 4/27/2022 at 11:30 PM, Garrac said:

Only one thing more, how is Gobbapalooza? The models are really awesome, but i don't know if the grots and the boyz benefit a lot from their pressence

Iirc they were generally considered overcosted and bad. That said the models are awesome and work really well as stand in for others.

I use mine as both a fungoid and a spider wizard.