CountryMou3e Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 What is the verdict on Prosecutor equipment? I recall before that Hammers were considered much better than javelins, has that changed? IMHO Javelins look so much cooler but effectiveness is always a concern. I'm thinking of revisiting Stormcast as an army soon and want mainly foot guys and Prosecutors, no cavalry (my vision of stormcast is infantry with lots of heroes, not so much mounted guys).Javelins always , rend and extra ranged attack is worth it. Not to mention a cheaper unit ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, CountryMou3e said: Javelins always , rend and extra ranged attack is worth it. Not to mention a cheaper unit ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agreed Javelin's are better. I think the hammers look cooler though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Excellent. So as I said what appeals to me is a more traditional style army, ranks of heroic warriors standing strong against the tide of darkness, angels on shimmering wings bringing judgment to the wicked, led by mighty heroes. I think I am probably going with Hallowed Knights for the colors (and because nothing sounds cooler than yelling "Only the Faithful!" when smiting the wicked) Turns out I have the following already: * 1x Lord-Relictor * 5x Liberators (assembled) w/Hammer and Shield, Prime w/Grandhammer * 5x Liberators (on sprue) * 5x Paladins (on sprue) So going with my visual concept of a Stormcast army, maybe something like the following building on what I have already (battletome is at home so I didn't pick traits or artefacts right now): Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals Lord-Celestant (100) Lord-Castellant (100) Lord-Relictor (80) Knight-Vexillor (140) - Pennant of the Stormbringer Knight-Heraldor (120) 5 x Liberators (100) - Warhammer & Shield - 1x Grandhammers 5 x Liberators (100) - Warhammer & Shield - 1x Grandhammers 5 x Judicators (160) - Skybolt Bows - 1x Shockbolt Bows 5 x Judicators (160) - Skybolt Bows - 1x Shockbolt Bows 6 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (160) - 2x Stormsurge Tridents 5 x Paladin Retributors (220) - 2x Starsoul Maces 5 x Paladin Retributors (220) - 2x Starsoul Maces Hammerstrike Force (120) Total: 1780/2000 Not sure what else to add here, the idea is something similar to an older style Stormcast army before the Vanguard stuff. I could look at replacing the Lord Celestant on foot with one on a Dracoth (having the army general on a cool mount fits in with my vision) and be at 1900 points with 100 left (throw in the gryph hound for the Castellant?). Of course this is assuming none of these points change in GHB2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Second relictor is always nice for stacking those debuffs against big threat units. And if you can make the hammerstrike a unit of ten rets and 5 protectors it'll be a bit more punchy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Bringing up one of those Liberator units to 10 strong with that extra points would give you a good shieldwall for holding objectives, etc. (especially when buffed by a Lord Castellant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolderiz101 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 id say you dont really need the knight vexillor since relictor do the same with lighting chariot and is a lot cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Any word on GHB2017 changes yet? Previews are going up around the internet Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Only things I have seen is that the Stardrakes dropped by 40 points (Templar at least) and the Javelin prosecutors went down 20 points, and Liberators get the massive regiment discount but I can't remember the number. Also... Tempestors (? one of those dracothian guard) went down a bit too I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Templar is 440 and LCoSD is 560Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Prosecutors down in points? That's surprising if true. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Requizen said: Prosecutors down in points? That's surprising if true. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk I would be shocked if the hammer prosecutors don't drop in points, they are not very good compared to javelins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Prosecutors down in points? That's surprising if true. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk60pts a unit lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 If they really are 60 per unit, Tempest Lords is the hotness of hotnesses. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURF1 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Requizen said: If they really are 60 per unit, Tempest Lords is the hotness of hotnesses. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Going by the reviews, probs not actually gaining anything if you got this route. Guess most battalions went up like 60+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzy128 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I cant really believe they would be 60 pr unit either. Then the individual prosecutor would be priced the same as a liberator, which seems weird given how much better they are. It was on the "warofsigmar" blog that the owner mentionedthe point decrease, along with a lot of other point answers to people. Maybe he got it wrong. I played the tempest lords list last night against a Sylvaneth household with durthu, loremaster, pretty standard list. It completely wrecked them. None of us are a good players, but I was extremely surprised by the power of it! If the net cost of the army stays the same I'd be very happy. The Prime is an absolute beast in the list, being able to charge, stay out of pile in range and then pile in his own 3" since he completed a charge move. He can also beat over the liberators and is just extremely versatile. The Prosecutors can basically move from one end of the table to another in a turn, and the buffed up liberators just jump around wherever you need them. Being able to move inside 18" range and the charge away afterwards also gives a lot of play against Tzeentch, as that is ther crucial range. In addition the 2 dmg javelins are poison to all their poor save heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 New points : Liberator 100/520 for 30 Prime: 340 Lord sur Stardrake: 560 Prosecutor javeline: 100 Tempestor: 220 And the most important bataillons Aetherstrike Force 180 Hammerstrike Force 220 Tempest Lords Harbinger Chamber 240 The Skyborn Slayers 240 Thunderhead Brotherhood 180 Vanguard wing 200 Warrior Brotherhood 240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Bob lied to us ! Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzy128 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Auch. That makes more sense. Now the harbinger list costs at least 280 more, and a 20 pts discount on the prime doesent cover it:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Did I talk about making sense ? I just give the numbers, assume what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 10:44 AM, Auroch said: Did I talk about making sense ? I just give the numbers, assume what you want. Have you got the unit pts list too? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Not yet. Looks like he gave all the points but Stormcast units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 He gave me the units points in a message and scanned the bataillons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The battalions increases certainly change it up a little. However, I'm concerned considering our low model count army anyway, and what appears that not many units have gone down in cost. Are we looking at tougher times ahead ? One drops are no more, who would sink 400+pts on a battalion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroch Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Almost all the bataillons of all armies have been increased by around 100 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm assuming we'll see less one drops period. Aetherstrike is still doable, all I have to do is drop the Relictor and he wasn't even super integral. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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