[AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion]

So had frist game ogors last night vs Cities of Sigmar (hallowheart).  Ended in a draw, but was a very fun game and learning experience. ironguts for the win, sole survivors and turned a close defeat into a draw.

Also  @Jabbuk

If it helps here is my unpainted and unfinished Slaughtermaster I made from mostly Glutton parts, Leadble herhead and gaint skull from the Skull set (not great photo)

 

 

[AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion]

Quick question. Might have Ogors game soon against cites of Sigmar. First time with Ogors. Likely top face Gotrek Gurnson (maybe 2000 points).
So I'm thinking of hurling chaff at him to slow him down. Either Frostsabers (40k Fernis wolves) or Gnopblars I actually can make 20 from Ogor units I have but for more, I'm using my blood reavers (left over form original AOS battle box) as "counts as". What would people recommend?

I feel Gnobalrs would be good but slow and Frostrsbaers need a hunter to really work (which I haven't got a nice conversion for yet)

[AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion]

I haven't got a photo yet but if it helps. @Jabbuk I used one of the big skulls form the citidal skull set (one the gaint human skulls) as a mask and it left only the mouth exposed (use the no facial hair leadblecher head). Use that on a glutton body with cleaver from the Mourfangriders (the weapon the leader has) and used greenstuff to make a apron, that atcually turned into lots of green stuff for like skins/furs skirt look.

 

[AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion]

Thank you @Kramer

Looks good but I think the Mawpotbis too big for me personally.

Also thanks for Glutton advice since I'm building a big 12 Ogor unit that be a better. Thankfully I think most people are fine dying mixed weapons as ,"Counts as"

@Mutton pingpong ball not s bad idea. Their cheap so worth a try.

[AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion]

Hello there.

I always wanted to do an Ogor army and with feast of bones (need to get rid of Bonereapers) and some other purchases. Im really enjoying making them and they look really fuin to play. Coming form Slannesh and Stromcast/DOK it be fun to run smaller numebrs lots of wounds.

I would like some advice though

1) Any good ideas what I can use to help make a Sluaghtermaster conversion? I don't wanna make that resin model looks far too fragile. And I'm tyring to find a nice Claudron or somthing I could use with a converted Glutton model.  Was maybe thinking the Gloomspite spell one, maybe even get Butcher seme spider grot attendants (say buitcher ate their gaint spider now grots follow them)

2) Rules question making a big unit of Gluttoins do I give them the Ironfists or double wepaons? With Bonerepaers out looks like in my are atheir gonna be alot good-save armies. So maybe mortal wounds are useful.

 

 

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

Hey.

So my first 2000pts list I'm aiming for., that isnt snake list.

Temple: Hagg Nar
LEADERS
Slaughter Queen on Cauldron Of Blood (330)
- General
- Command Trait : Devoted Desciples
- Artefact : Iron Circlet
- Prayer : Blessing of Khaine
Hag Queen (60)
- Prayer : Catechism of Murder
Bloodwrack Medusa (140)
- Artefact : Shadow Stone
- Lore of Shadows : Mindrazor
Morathi High Oracle of Khaine (480)
- Lore of Shadows : The Withering
UNITS
30 x WitchAelves (270)
- Pairs of Sacrificial Knives
20 x Sisters Of Slaughter (240)
- Barbed Whips and Sacrificial Knives
20 x Witch Aelves (200)
- Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers
5 x Khinerai Lifetakers (80)
5 x Khinerai Lifetakers (80)
BATTALIONS
Cauldron Guard (120)

What do people reckon of this as a starting list?

I'm also thinking of a similar list but with Draichi Ganeth and Slaughter Troupe.  Drop the Witches with shields for 10 Sisters and throw in a Hag Queen, swap the lifetakers for Heartrenders and thrown in an extra hag Queen. The issue with this second list is it's a pretty complicated list to start playing with. 

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

HI, So new year I collected up quite an army models to build. Still got a bit of the BF box and I got a lot of Witch Aelevs boxes for cheap.

Problems is I need some tips on what to build them as. I already have 20 Witches with Bucklers.

I have 6 boxes left to make, I wanna make Sisters of Slaughter as well, be a nice change form Witches.

I'm thinking 30 Witches with daggers and 20 Sisters with bucklers. But what should I do with the last box? Either raise the Buckler witches to 30 or raise the Sisters to 30? 

Also Sisters I'm more tempted by Bucklers but are the knives worth it, shorter range but an extra attack isn't to be ignored. But raising that +6 to a +5 and a possible mortal wound is good as well.

Final question, but what Battalions should I aim for, I got enough to make the Temple Nest. But I'm thinking eietrh Claudorn guard or Slaughter Troupe? The latter means I have to actually build a second unit of Sisters but that won't be too hard. Claudorngaurd feels more useful, I know Lifetakers aren't amazing but that +1 to charge means they can tie up enemy units and heroes better. 

 

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

36 minutes ago, DJMoose said:

The first issue I noticed is you gave your Bloodwrack the Rune of Ulgu with Mindrazor.  This is fine, but since you can only cast one spell per turn choose another spell as her normal Lore of Shadows spell. Selecting the same spell twice gets you nothing, since you can only attempt every spell once per turn.  Other than that it looks pretty good.  I have had a good experience using temple nest lists, and while you could always use more Hag Queens in my opinion, you have a pretty good all-round list.  If you can squeeze in another 70 points you could get 10 more Witches and max the unit out to 30.  Also if you ever feel like not using Morathi, add more Blood Sisters.  You could drop in 20 of them for the same price as Morathi.  Also, I think it is only 30 more points to upgrade to a Slaughter Queen on a Cauldron, which is totally worth it.

Thanks for advice. Incase of the rune. For some reason, I was thinking of a it gave you +1 to casting.  Maybe I'm getting mixed up with Idoneth traits and stuff.

Yeah on points, tragically if I remove the Heart renders I'm literally at 990, 10 points less I cou,d have 10 more Witches.  However 10 more Witches are quite expensive money wise.

Infact I did the maths for a starting 2000 points of DOK buying Morathi (Espically from a good retailer), is actually cheaper than buying models to fill in the 480 point gap. Weird. But yeah in furture I can mess about with lists more. Just hope Blood stalkers become better priced somwhen. Love the models though.

I did also have the idea of dropping Heart renders,  throwing in an endless spell and using spare points to make Slaughter Queen on the Cauldron. Maybe I could use the jaws, mostly becuase "nom, nom, nom" is funny, but the bravery debuff and Mindrazor could work nicely together.

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

Hi all.

So I mentioned in past I'm debating Idoneth or DOK. I tried some Idoneth models and really struggled(I HATE those new flying stands) so as I play about and see if I like them I order the DOK battletome and some witch elves to see how I do. 

If I do decide to go DOK I created a 2000 point army I want to aim for. The main focus is on Snake ladies because 1) money cheaper and 2) less repetitive models compared to 30+ witch elves.  Plus snakes mean I can try nice scales patterns.

Anywhere here is the list idea.

Allegiance: Daughters Of Khaine 

Mortal Realm: Ghyran
Temple: Hagg Nar
Bloodwrack Medusa (140)
- General
- Command Trait: Devoted Desciples
- Artefact : Rune of Ulgu - Mindrazor
- Lore of Shadows : Mindrazor
Hag Queen on Cauldron Of Blood (300)
- Artefact : Iron Circlet
- Prayer : Blessing of Khaine
Hag Queen (60)
- Prayer : Catechism of Murder
Morathi High Oracle of Khaine (480)
- Lore of Shadows : The Withering
20 x Witch Aelves (200)
- Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers
5 x Blood Sisters (140)
5 x Blood Sisters (140)
5 x Blood Stalkers (160)
5 x Blood Stalkers (160)
5 x Khinerai Heartrenders (80)
BATTALIONS
Temple Nest (130)

I do have the Malign sorcery stuff so I could drop the Heartrenders for an endless spell. Like the Geminis, then I have the points to upgrade the Hagqueen on Cauldron to a Slaughter queen on Cauldron.

I could also drop Morathi, but her model looks amazing and honestly one of the main sellers of DOK for me. So I wanna use her in-game.  Plus It's an army of snake people, you cannot do that and not field the GIANT medusa lady it just feels wrong.

How dose this feel for a fun, friendly but semi-useful list.

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

7 minutes ago, zedatkinszed said:

This. But if you've got an airbrush the skin is a bit easier. Smooth coats from an airbrush with pin-washing does a good job on the skin. Mind you if you don't have an airbrush it's a heck of an investment for one army

The most fragile stuff are the Khinerai.  It's all down to their tails being what connects them to the bases. I've kept them as GW intended but I've seen some good conversions that use scenery to add stability. You can see what Vince Venturella did here:

https://golden-demon.com/2018/07/04/bronze-age-of-sigmar-unit-age-of-sigmar-open-day/

 

Airbrush nice idea. I don't have one. And I live in a rented place, so Airbrushing is not good for me. Unless I can use it outside.  Though I collect Infinity as well and they recommend an airbrush so I will have multiple uses.

I like the idea with the Khinerai, I mad esomeStormcast Prosecutes and had the fragile issue, scenery weights would actually help. Thanks.

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

4 minutes ago, Arkalid said:

My quick two cents: 

They are slow to paint, yes, but you can make a few shortcuts by spraying the girls white so you can just dilute some Reikland Fleshshade with Lahmian medium, paint that on skin, then Flayed One Flesh and Pallid Wych Flesh highlights. The harder parts are the bikinis and jewellery, but washes hide some of the imperfections. Stabby snakes are perhaps the easiest to paint. 

 

You definitely need a carry case for these models. Morathi's left small wing is brittle, right one is under hair + makes up her back. The big snake's wings are solid, as the parts are connected to the ribs, back (and each other), as well as to the hips, so there are many glue points. The biggest worry for carrying your Daughters around is actually that Cauldron with the Avatar standing on top. Magnetize the leader+Avatar, maybe even the shrine keepers. I don't own any Khinerai yet, so not sure about their brittleness.

 

 

The painting might not be too bad then, thanks. Yeha I I wanna go snake heavy. that might help.

I havent rlelay magnertsied beofre. But I thought I would have too. It's an expsnive set to buy multples of.  Using magents and pinning though is a good advice. Thanks. What sorta magnets would you reconmend? I got some 1mm ones but found they might be too small for Mairnes and the like, they might be better for Elf sized models.

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

Hi

Thinking of picking up AOS again after a while off.  Main army Stormcast but with the Christmas boxes really tempted by the Idoneth and DOK boxes. 

Really tempted by DOK beucase1) Snake ladies are rlelay cool. 2) I like the Glass cannon melee army with a really nice support hero's (that isn't Khrone) and 3) the models look amazing, and could have some nice conversion options. An example I've used some of the Medusia for my Durkhari. 

My main worry though is that the models could be super fragile. The Kinerai look amazing but super fragile. Morthiai is an amazing model but I'm worried about the wings on other her small and big forms. 

Also as someone who struggles with painting, I've heard bad thinks about painting DOK, I understand a lot of exposed skin and tiny details. Though the snakes could be very nice to paint. You could go more colourful with the tails and do for real-life snake colours. 

So I wanted to ask, is there any advice or tips you can give. to help me justify DOK over Idoneth. I know that DOK is rumoured to be due a nerf in January (correct me if wrong), but I don't care, I'm not great at strategy and my lucks never that good. I play an army because it's fun and looks good.

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

Hi. Picking up on AOS again after a long time off. Main army is Stormcast,  love the Idoneth models and lore. But never got the models.

With new job and the Battleforce coming out I'm thinking of either getting the Idoneth or the Duaghters of Khaine.  I would like advice on why Idoneth over DOK.

Like if anyone willing to say, how hard is stuff like the King's and the Eidolonls to make? I'm a bit worried by how fragile the look, the horses tentacles and the Eidolonl's cloak. I did years ago try to make with-aelfs and really struggled but that was years ago, and I've gotten better.  Still they look very fiddly. Hopefully Idoneth are easier. Hell I love the Morthai model but it looks so fragile.

Are Idoneth cheaper to buy. The DOK is better value but let's be honest after that, thier a VERY expensive army money wise. Well o.k Idoneth aren't much better but at least the eels make it a bit cheaper.

Last thing are Idoneth more, customisable in thier lists? Everyone who takes Duaghters takes massive blobs. I know the meta was for a while take swarms of eels but the Namatri are still viable aren't they?

 

[AoS 2 - Sylvaneth Discussion]

Hi all

Returning Sylvaneth player. Gonna hope to get an army up and running. 

I picked up a box of Kurnoth Hunters, My second box. I made my first with Greatbows. I'm not sure what to give the second unit. Swords or Sycthes?

I was thinking Swords as they have more attacks and reliable damage. Whilst the Sycthes could do more damage they aren't as reliable and fewer attacks. But that 2" range seems useful. 

I main aim for the second user is to use them as a summon for Alarielle, when I get her. If not then use them as a second big damage unit on the table.

What do people think?

[AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion]

Hi

So I building up my Stormcast, I finally got a box of Evocators, I love the models.

I'm sure someone has asked this before but, Whats better gameplay wise Grandstaves, Swords and staves or a mix of both?

I know the best answer is whatever you like the look of. And the grand staves do look really cool. I can't quite decide.

Gameplay wise I think Grandstaves look more useful vs lightly armoured troops or multi-wound troops. Being able to one shot a chaos warrior or the like is useful. But minus 1 attack and rend looks big to me.

[AoS 2 - Sylvaneth Discussion]

Hello

So with New edition, I haven't had a chance to get my hands on the new books yet.

But I'm thinking of not picking up Soul wars in favour of getting 2000 points of Slyvanmeth. (I have a Stormcast Amry but they are looking a bit boring at the moment.)

The downside is getting Alarielle is a bit expensive (money and pointwise). But if I do how does this list for 2.0 look:

Aiming for 2000 points:

TLA, General: Gift of Ghyran, Oaken amour, Regrowth.

Alarielle: Throne of vines

Branchwych: Regrowth, Slverwood Circlet

20xDryads

20xDryads

5xTree Revenants

3xKurnoth Hunters: bows

Household Battlion

Gnarlroot Wargrove

With the 2017 points, this is 1930. Leaving 70 points left over.

I have heard rumours of point changes for Sylaneth. I heard the Hunters got dropped to 200 points, and Household went up top 100, but  Garnlroot went down to 120.

With those changes that would make this list 1880, leaving me 120 points for endless spells. (again I don't know the points cost). I would love to use the maw (I got a lovely little conversion idea, simple but might look good), but any other suggestions would be nice.

what do p[eople think of this list as a rough draft? I think this lists got a bit of everything.

Also, what do people think Alarielle should summon? At the moment I've got an unused Treelord, but I could in time I could sawpit for another unit of Hunters with Scythes. Their a bit more durable (15 wounds opposed to 12) and when summoned can make a nice meat (wood) shield for Alarielle to discourage charging, 

I could also add in a BranchWraith into the list, but at the moment I don;t have the official model (though I have an old spellweaver I was planning on using) and I don't have that many Dryads (though if I buy the start collecting box instead of the separate Treelord I will have 48 Dryads.)

 

 

[AoS 2 - Sylvaneth Discussion]

Hello

I'm a returning Player to AOS and Slyvaneth. (was tempted by Idoneth Deepkin but those models are quite expensive money wise).

I know Second edition and the General's handbook 2.0 isn't out yet. But do people think Alarielle is worth feilding?

I haven't got the model and I would love to (though panting would be hard for me), I know a lot of people didn't like her because she wasn't worth her points but now can also get a free summons (Hunters with sycthes seem like a good idea.)

At the momnet I have: The start colletcing box set (treelord, Brachwych and dryads), a unit of tree reverants, a unit of Kurnoth Hunters (with bows) and one more unit of Dyrads.

If I get Alarielle and a Treelord Ancient I should have a viable 2000 point army and a summoanble treelord.

What do people think or should I buy 2 Treelord boxes instead to m,ake a TLA and a Spirit of Durthu?

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

Hello

So I've away form AOS for a while I'm coming back with 2.0 and although I have Stormcast I just not into them at the moment.

I bought the Idoneth Deepkin book soon after it came out (Love the art style and the lore).

I'm thinking about starting up some Idoneth models now but what would people recommend for starting an army?

I love the Eidolons of Mathlann. But they look hard to make and quite delicate (Especially the Sea cloak) how have people found that model?

Sadly I am aware that some the best looking models(the shark and the turtle) aren't that competitive but they look amazing.

I was also thinking of using my Stormcast to ally with the Idoneth, take the Ionrach Enclave, use the command trait and take some Concussors or Fulminators and you got some slow but very hard-hitting calvary that gets cover, can run and change, then fights first.  It also help me get a competitive army for cheaper.