Gorthor21
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I raised this question after thinking of buying a set of chaos knights and wanting to use one model for both roles as I don’t like the way it makes the unit look.
the other members on the other thread brought up good points and I decided to post here as they suggested.
so the only mention I can find in the rules are in the core rules and on the warscroll:
So rules board what is your take on this command group conundrum?
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So one argument for it must be appropriate citadel miniatures which can be interpreted as must be assembled as per instructions as the second argument posits Or that they simply have to be citadel manufactured products which they would be.
i understand why it would make sense to follow conventional thought I just always hated the Hornblower on the chaos knights even back when they were multipart metal sets. Why couldn’t it just be in his left instead of a shield.
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The way it is worded it sounds like it can be the same model to me. I understand that it’s implied they should be different models but the wording is similar to the original warscroll for liberators that says one in five can take the special weapon options so the prime could be equipped with it. I know they updated it with later iterations of the warscroll.
im not trying to pull a fast one on anyone and there isn’t any real benefit as the model can be removed and you loose the benefits of both options. I thought it would make the unit look cooler if there were more lances instead of the horn and standard taking up so much space in the front rank.
i know it’s a carry over from wfb with the command groups being specified in the core rules and this has only carried over with the older kits.
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I am look at buying a box of chaos knights and it popped in my head. Can one model be both the standard bearer and musician at the same time?
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I think given time AoS will have a more fleshed out image for life in most of the innerlands of the various realms like we got with the Empire and Ulthuan.
A lot of the little pieces the released with malign portents and most if not all the black library novels released in the last few years have really been trying to make an effort to create a tangible setting like they had with the olde world. Even chaos cultures and the deepkin have been really fleshed out and I’m certain as long as the newer generation of AoS authors who picked up where Reynolds left off continue on his tangent then we will certainly have a much mor concrete setting for the everyday man in the mortal realms.
I feel like with the old army books it isn’t really the job of the battletomes to get into that much detail and more the job of the novels and rpgs.-
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Does anyone remember if fantasy really had much of a detailed setting speaking of the day to day lives of the mortal inhabitants aside from the role playing games prior to 7th Ed?
I was thinking and I can’t really remember much and most of it was presented as 3rd person summaries or as anecdotes written in world by imperial scholars.
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From what I get from the interviews from the guys who do the different ways to play there are less people involved with those rules typically just a few people making the scenarios so it’ll inherently be a little more unbalanced. I believe what matched play even remotely fair are the third party play testers. It’s hard to gauge how many people play each type of game as @Melbar said the tournament people are the most vocal on the internet thus the most seen.
i have not played the game since before there were points and only twice before that so I can’t really speak from experience just from conclusions drawn from the podcasts and YouTube videos I have listened to. Though the hobby is more an escape for me only painting once in a while and most just reading the novels and battletomes before bed or when I’m in a hotel room.
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3 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:
No.
But I do feel pity for mighty Queek Headtaker
I used to play clan Mors in fantasy so I feel you haha
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Wasn’t Jactos Goldmane the first named stormcast who was slain but did not reforge?
I know that Vandus is really seen as a Mary-sue because he was on the front of most of the stormcast stuff in the beginning but I really want to see them expand on his story. I do feel kind of peeved they haven’t made more mention of these original Lord Celestants like they do in 40k with Calgar or Dante.-
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Does anyone ever feel bad for thosto bladestorm?
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2 hours ago, Slayerofmen said:
Upset that it took ten pages for someone to reference the shawshank redemption.
My only real issue with AoS outside of some glaring rules issues is that I can't connect to any of the characters they created for it, nothing I read makes me want to go find out more. In contrast to that when I read my first snippet about nagash I went and found out everything I could and followed it all the way through
Josh Reynolds’ Gardus Steelsoul really got me into the novels and motivated me to get into all the other things I have read. Most of the black library books have regular people as primary perspective characters though most of them only last a single book other than Callis and Toll.
All the Hamilcar Bear-eater short stories and the novel were fun reads and gave a humorous departure from the space marine heroics you get with most stormcast characters. Guymer’s Deepkin stories are interesting but typical elven pity parties.-
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You gotta remember that most of the writers that GW employs are not the same ones that were there in the past. Even separate parts of the same battletome are written by different people and that’s a lot for editors to catch especially when it has to go through several of their departments where everyone is leaving notes along the way. Just like how subjective our different views of the hobby are jaded by our personal experiences with It the final product of a single battletome can have small inconsistencies like little bits of verbiage.
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17 minutes ago, Grdaat said:
If you've read all the pages you'd see the parts where I agree to drop arguments that aren't going anywhere. Anything that comes up after that point is either something new, or with somebody new who wanted to reply to an earlier post.
If other people are making these same arguments outside of this thread then I am unaware of them. I do not browse threads that make it clear they're about denigrating the setting, and aside from this thread where I gave my honest opinion on it I don't look up what other people think about the setting in general.
Sure, it's subjective anyway and I'm not interested in arguing about what you feel is a lot of development and what I feel is little development.
There is no need to take the high road once the gauntlet has been thrown. You argued in circles each time to the point that several people backed down because it was like trying to talk to a wall of noise.If you don’t mind me asking if you feel so irked by the inconsistencies of the setting then why keep coming back to defend arguments that haven’t gained traction then picking apart the criticisms of your points?
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9 hours ago, Grdaat said:
Since never, because that didn't happen. People talked about how one setting differed from the other after discussing how things in one setting change over time, that's the off-topic part of the thread in a nutshell.
I read this whole thread and I am going to say that you seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing like it’s a high school debate class. You can’t just keep referring to how you outline arguments when you never outline them in the first place. I know being cooped up at home makes coming back over and over easier but just give it a rest. It’s 10 pages now of you making these cyclical arguments about a fantasy setting. They become cyclical because it is just that; fantasy.
please stop picking top talking points that people have complained about before and acting like you have made these eye opening claims. Sometimes it’s better to just admit that you might not be convincing people to your side of the argument and cut your losses. I felt like I was watching the talking heads on 24 hour news with the ‘I’m right because I am and you are wrong because of what I just said above’ nonsense.
what makes this game and it’s setting so great is that it is a constantly developing series. Much like LotR it wasn’t a complete and coherent thought from the get go and that is what makes it fun For me to read the new background they come out with. Very few of the battle times were wholly written by the same person with different writers putting different things together in the finishEd product. Hell in the last 5 years I have seen more story development out of AoS than I did in 10 years of reading fantasy army books and novels. Though I suppose this whole post will be moot in the end as it makes assumptions based on what ‘I’ have read and doesn’t Make direct quotes for assemble and structure d argument. Which is off topic in the extreme I’m sure we can all agree.
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8 hours ago, Souleater said:
Have you considered the upcoming Sons of Behemet?
It's any army of giants with a very low model count?
This is a really good idea. Start with 3 or 4 gargants and work your way into 2000 when the new army comes out. I’m tempted to do this myself.
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There are a few armies that allow an elite unit to become battle line if you meet certain conditions such as Tzeentch with screamers under a certain some subfaction or with a specific general
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There are a lot of factions that fit those guidelines but Stormcasts really tic all the boxes.
their shooting is really Strong with with judicators and the ballista but the melee output of nearly all their units is as good or better than most other armies. Plus one of thier battle traits is an inbuilt deep strike that functions better than either beasts or nighthaunts.
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In all honesty you wouldn’t need to put a saddle or reins on the boar. Many equine traditions didn’t use leads or stirrups to guide the horse but rather trained them to respond to pressure from the riders’ legs or certain verbal commands. Savage Boar riders were designed with this in mind and the same could certainly be said of humans doing the same thing.
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@AthelLoren do what you gotta do hahahaha
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That sounds like a good starting off point. I’m gonna brainstorm some ideas and write something. Hopefully we can motivate others to join in.
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That sounds good to me. 1000 isn’t hard to get especially when you lay on the world building. Look at A song of ice and fire, most of those books are him laying the scene for a little bit of action. I thought it was kind of humorous how much dialogue he put into the books but the show tried filling as much action as possible into the story.
I say we set atleast a basic prompt like essays like it should be a conversational piece about fluffing out what we already have with more concrete details or an action piece that introduces the audience to the main cast of races/characters that are important for people to get a real feel for Calderos.
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Has anyone written up anything? I have been on a painting streak so I haven’t had time to devote to writing. I really hope this thread isn’t 💀.
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@Baron Klatz I completely agree. Reading the newer stories is cool especially when it opens up new perspectives like the court of the blind king. I know a lot of people want to say they are like space marines but they deal with more metaphysical topics like life and death and the nature of dreams and memories from a mystic outlook. Like 2+tough said it’s really all about the nature of self and the primary motif of identity that really makes stormcasts something else entirely. I think they did a good job with it as an aside from the perspective of mortal beings but in all honesty it feels like they are still trying to cling onto what little humanity they have left like some space marines but in a far more relatable.
Also they get major points for being einherjar from Norse mythology with Sigmar being Odin. Really that and the way they described them fighting was really cool all working in cohesion.
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From what I understand warrior chambers tend get their name from their lord-celestant’s war name which is a title all stormcast get after they prove themselves to Sigmar or whoever judges that. It’s like an epitaph like being ‘the great’ or whatever. Tridentcrest would need to be referring to some story about a thing the lord-celesta the did.
Being musician and standard bearer
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I was thinking of converting him so that he is holding the horn in his left hand instead. Having built them do you think this would be difficult?