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You can't sadly give Troggboss gryph feather charm since he is not Galletian Champion.

As a mostly squig/troll player I am not disappointed of the new tome, will need to do some lists and try out in a couple of games but it seems like you could do some good lists. However it feels like a army you need to be careful with buff ranges etc. to make it work as good as many other armies work natively and if you play really good you might be quite competitive.

It's true that there are a lot of aelves factions, so if they could make the Gitmob feels very different in lore/looks like the aelves are it could work. But with all the freedom of the mortals realm it would be possible to construct a new destruction force that have a total new feel to it and for me it would feel like a missed opportunity to not do something totally outside of the current design space. Perhaps make it a force of nature with different elementals, animalistic beasts (although not to similar the current beast faction) etc. Lumineth may have it's elemental temples but this would be the uncontrolled destructive hateful image of the same elements.

It could also be that they want to keep the door open for Gitmob and therefore test some different design and see what is liked. Might be a Warcry/underworld warband in the pipe. The problem for me that don't have any sentimental memories of Gitmob is that if they release Gitmob separately it will be another orc/goblin-faction instead of a new take on what destruction could be which is a bit sad.

Yes, the underworld warband was a big "Meh". If it was the first it would be good, but there have already been two DoK so it feels like they missed the chance to explore new design space. I hade the same feeling for the last DoK since Warcry already had done Khainte in a superb way.

In the preview they said that the five unknown tomes would be released in three months so early June seems probable for seraphon.

So, since they previewed the summer tome I guess the others will be a tome + one mini and that should probably mean that it's pretty much certain which the tomes are.

To be honest we should wait until the reviews are out before being to doom and gloom about the bestest faction there is, but I agree that the problem is not that Gitz needed many new minis (except maybe refresh of some spiderfang units) but that the wolf riders seems so odd to add as a lonely unit.

And the gitz Vanguard box will be a mistake to buy if the new tome is anything like the old one where mixing factions was a big no no. Snarlfangs also look a bit misplaced as a solo unit. However, new tome....woooohoooo

Good, now lets get on with more important stuff, like the new Gitz tome 😜

To be honest for me, Kragnos feels very underwhelming both in the lore and in games so far. Yes, he is a new center piece hero, but is he so much better than Gordrakk? Two weeks ago on Warhammer weekly Vince talked about that one of the big heroes/god's should die (for a couple of years at least) to bring the narrative forward and it feels like that could be needed. Let Morathi die doing something to enhance her power or have Belakor kill Archaon. You could still play them legally, but inte lore they would be dead, at least for an edition or two. For all that happened in broken realms pretty much stayed the same. How cities of signar/stormcast still can be on the same side as Morathi is a mystery to me after what she did and Kragnos became a big "meh" in the end. Sure Nagash is "dead" but that's happened a couple of times already in the stories...

The idea of battle tactics is in it self not a bad idea but the way it is right now many are non-interactive for the oponent (like having two units in your enemy territory) and coupled with the battle tome tactics most will be completing 4 or 5 without trouble which means that they will have little impact in deciding the winner except in very close games. I would like to see a system where you draw 2 or 3 secondary missions (need to be playtested) at the start of the game which when completed gives you a certain amount of points. Some could be about destroying a unit or it could be about finding a treasure by being in control of a certain part of the map. That way both players can compete for the same missions and both will have a chance to be involved in the mission unlike "control one objective that have no opponent GV" or other auto complete tasks.

I have not been much of a horde Gitz player, but yes they should make each subfaction feel good and also not dependent on Kragnos. So for example Squigs should be fast and hit hard but be class cannon (the important thing is that it is a cannon and not towel like now), troggs low but hit lika brick and hard to remove etc. And while we are wishing, how about a possibility to actually do a good mixed force with our supreme leader Skragrott as general?

It doesn't seem to have everything if you read the text and look at the picture, one bigger piece of terrain is missing and all the small pieces was in duplicates in the original box.

What gives me hope about new gitz is that GW have been good in making most new books make the armies play like you feel they should. I would like it to be something similar to how Nurgle play with their disease points in that the army gets stronger and stronger the more the bad moon affect the battle (and let us keep it on the board the whole time thank you!). Enemies gets debuffed and Gitz gets buffed until everything is covered in mushroom.

To be honest I hope most/all factions will be updated after summer, that means a year where the playing field is as even as you can in 3d edition before the fourth edition. However a year of build up to the fourth edition is a bit long so it feels like some of the times on the road map might be a new faction (even if I dont want anything new, ok Chords can have their tome).

Well, as Gitz player I look forward to a new hopefully better book. Also, was the spider head rumor engine solved?

I am really interested in the radioactive temples, if you thought pink horrors where bad with their split and split again wait until you see the LRL radioactive decay.

To be honest I don't understand the LRL-tome situation. Has the ship with the books sunk or did the new hero have some mishap in the factory (a la Stormcast dragons)? 😀

Should we not get the LRL-tome first?

I am sorry to all gargants fan out there, but I can't get the pic out of my head when I look quickly that the arm he has in his mouth looks like a long tongue making him look like a dog running with the tongue out. And the legs position make him l look even more strange.

Yeah, as the opponent it's your choice to attack him with a hero so unless the player with GS plays gotcha and don't tell you about his ability you know it's a risk you take to attack him with a hero. It's also possible to play around by either attacking from a distance, attack with non heroes or by overkilling him with a hard-hitting hero.

Eternus is a bit to much of everything as model for me, there is no natural thing to fucus on with all the different materials and colours etc. It might be the angle and that it looks great IRL but I just feel it looks like random pieces of different armour with a horselike creature in the middle.

I had shelfed them for a while and played Soulblight instead since it didn't feel like you played in the same league as other armies that my friends use (and sure they can do less competitive lists but not even that helps sometimes). But with the hopes of a new tome I did start to try out different troll list with and without out Kragnos. Now however it is back in the box for a while... But happy for my other destruction allies, let's hope.their tomes are good!

Hi GW, heard about these Gitz? They didn't get a 3.0 tome celestial, been stuck in the bottom of the meta since their last battletome and your little fixes in the last GHB didn't really help much. Perhaps you should do something about that? On the other side I will not need to spend any money on AOS until later next year with these releases.