Snorri Nelriksson
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35 minutes ago, Greybeard86 said:
Are KO going to get new units though? Because, no offense, I think lots of people are willing to throw FS under the bus because hardly anyone plays them.
In my opinion, the point is whether many factions with narrow ranges can be sustained over time or whether they ll just languish and die from neglect. This is not new to AoS, chorfs and dogs of war suffered that fate in WHFB.
It seems that now AoS is going back to large releases with wider ranges. Now, the previous design iteration of narrow ranges can either fold into a wider faction or...what? What do you think will happen? How long can KO continue to operate with 1 battle line and now new minis? Not to speak of FS since that’s been discussed to death.
I think there is room for actual bigger alliances that work, and we have to allow for some time to GW to write the lore to support it. Likely, this will lead to some retconning. Usually, I dislike that. But between death from moth or retconning, I guess I’d choose the later.
Well better soup than dead...but.
One of the most important things in warhammer is always army identity though.
If they want to make "bigger alliances" let's go back to GA books and stop at it, the result would be the same: armies with many incoherent styles in them.
I accept that GW could not sustain 30+ armies (and i agree that we have too many allegiances), BUT there's room to improve the thing.
They want to soup dwarves?OK, then put dispossessed 2.0 and Fyreslayers together remaking some of the models to better fits, let's unite DOK and Corsair and Malerion's, trim the fat of Cities taking away every non human factions and create new non-human and human units as auxiliaries giving a new aos aesthetic and not let them be "whfb leftovers", same for warclans bridge the gap between the two halves with some "basic orruks".
The irony imho is that for soup tomes you actually need more units to bridge the aesthetic gap.
Also i don't think that GW will start adressing the army problem with wider ranges, in fact i'd say that they still do'nt know what to do: Slaanesh like every chaos god army got both demon and mortal part because is "chaos", Lumineth are the second native aos army with two waves (third if we count Slaanesh in some form), the Soulblight are like LON a soup with little differences from the past of whfb.
And if the rumors are true Kroolboyz are part of warclans but maybe they also have something other than orruks like "gloomspite" containing various greenskinz.
IDK i think the designer still do'nt know what to do.....or maybe they're biding their time for some big change.
I'm not against the concept of soup but it should be done better IF done.
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4 minutes ago, Chumphammer said:
Kinda been having a feeling over the last 24hrs that what if the destruction side of "Dominion" is Kruel Boyz AND silent ones AND Fimir
What is the Hobgoblins have subjected a load of races into slave cast that fight for them? So we end up with a handful of Hobgoblin units, mainly heroes and a few units, but then we get this monster mix army of enslaved races fighting under the control of the hobgoblins.
*grumbles in Dawi Zharr language* Hobgoblins can only be slaves not masters *grumble*...
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3 minutes ago, dirkdragonslayer said:
Oh my God, I pray it's her. I have been hoping for a plastic hag since Gloomspite released. If it is her, are they going to do full sized like FW, or shrine her down to being merely huge like in Total War.
If these Kruel Boyz are an hodgepodge of greenies perhaps we'll see some new kits for fellwater troggots wirh the hag option.
Or a new size of fellwater like the dankhold,perhaps even making it usable by the troggoth allegiance.
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The problem is that Gw changed army design many times in the same edition so we're in a mess (the list i'm writing is not chronological).
Aos started with micro-micro faction like the stormcast chamber, then new "mini armies"(Fyre and IJ), then legacy armies splitted and/or augmented (Sylvaneth,pestilens,Dok), then medium new armies (Ko,Bonereapers,idoneth) , placeholder soups (Lon and cities), legacy augmented armies with soup added(Gloomspite that got new things like a proper wave but got two other microfactions attached), re-unified splitted microfactions as the old whfb tome (mawtribes/skaven),new aos native "Big army"(Lumineth,Stormcast) and the last piece is just the old whfb army with something less(Soulblight that lost some things of Lon and Fec but got new characters).
There's still the great "mystery" about how Cos will evolve, probably they'll axe some more models like the high elves before Lumineth (or put them in some other new army ,like corsairs in Dok).
Souping will be different if done for factions that should never have been splitted like skaven clans or between aos native armies (idoneth and lumineth for example).Also it should be noted that GA matters, as some GA are bigger than others.
If Gw wants to soup they'll do of course but needs to do in a logical way.
Also idk if Tow will change some ideas, mostly Cos as i think they'll maybe will aosify it aesthetically speaking.
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59 minutes ago, Public Universal Duardin said:
Interesting the hodgepodge mash of greenskins though.
We already know there are 3 icons but here's seems to imply they are not only "morruk" andhobgobs...
In a frame there's something similar to a grots in the background with a "strange weapon".
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@CommissarRotkemaybe lord Somehing-venator as it means hunter?
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3 minutes ago, zamerion said:
It's just me or does it seems the skull has a stitched leather ballon under?
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18 minutes ago, baiardo said:
So the rumors about new OBR unit and battletome are confirmed?
What?
Could you link the rumors ?
Still i think is just wishlistings after the underworld warband.
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8 minutes ago, Double Misfire said:
Don't you go forgetting dwarfs with puffy clothes and feather hats there beardlet!
They should return for the cities imho.
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4 minutes ago, Greybeard86 said:
You are forgetting that they once played together, steampunk, slayer, and viking dwarves, and the armies were diverse and breath taking.
Ko clashes really much more than the old classic dwarves with Fyreslayers
The "steampunk" element in the old dwarves was really toned down if not absent (mostly latest things like the new gyrocopter and the last models of engineers like Damnison, empires got more steampunk styled things).
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44 minutes ago, Mandzak-Miniatures said:
Not sure why everyone hates on soup. Maybe it’s people who didn’t play whfb, only now armies were ripped apart to make sub factions, looking at you FEC and NH.
”soup” let’s creative minds run wild with conversions and themes. Since building heroes was wiped in place of character hammer, I welcome more soups as a means for customizing and themes to flow instead of the mundane.
Because souping armies that were united is different from doing with aos native armies.
And to be honest Fec are more interesting as their thing than like the old Vampire counts army for example,their new background gives more room to improvement than the old Strigoi imho.
Same for Nighthaunt that got a whole new background and aesthetic.
Though i know Gw cannot mantains too much armies modelwise.
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9 minutes ago, Damosane said:
I don't think we will be getting grot air pirates, I think the Skaven version mentioned in kharadron lore are much more likely and would be fair more interesting personally
Skaven are a "unified" army, a subfaction of Skryre that just use airships would be strange without nothing for Eshin and Moulder.
They already ditched the idea of clans battletomes so i really doubt.
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1 minute ago, Sarouan said:
Yes, it was really hilarious to see how they litterally spoiled the story of Kragnos while the book wasn't even on pre-order, and they backtracked in panic while reading the comments online about how much a spoiler it was. 🤣
To be honest, it was just a quick recap, the book wll have tons of new info.
Still the fate of excelsis is a big spoiler itself.-
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Spoiler
There's also the point that the main enemies ,judging by ebook description, are Gloomspite, it does not make sense putting a new faction when there's already a main foe.
Still both of the Gitz type conquered Barak Khazzar and created the bad moon city.....so let's see. -
29 minutes ago, Aidrox said:
I'm very confident that some of these rumours are the grotbag scuttlers just based on how they look to me.
So confident in fact, that I've just ordered a kharadron army to fight against them.
If I'm proved wrong I'll eat my hat and/or my kharadron.
Joining the kharadron is never a mistake though XD.
Still if grotbag are coming and they'll take some elements fron the old greenskins warmachine probably i'll bite that cake too.
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4 minutes ago, Cataphract said:
So at least two SE heroes in the box have spearsThe yesterday one seemed more having a staff though.
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22 minutes ago, Vongolo said:
They montion them when:
the races of mankind, duardin, and aelf have settled some of their differences and dedicated themselves to taking back as much of the Mortal Realms as they can.
Likely talking about cities.
Now i really want the detail becuase if it's like they write it's a pretty disappointing ending for the destruction substory... especially compared to the other books. Like all the buildup and it ends in nothing?
Well technically destruction is on the rise in the 3rd edition so it makes sense that BR does not cover them up enough.
On the Grungni part:i don't get if the return of Grungni they talk about is the reunion with sigmar or they means that Gromthi was his return.
Still the whole fyreslayers and Kharadron cooperating seems more something about the plotline of the duardrazhal and the idea of getting back the karaks.
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2 minutes ago, Feii said:
Also Hashut is 100/100 Chaos God.
Who said otherwise?
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Well destruction being ignored at least gives hope for some waves incoming other than these Morruks.
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6 hours ago, Greybeard86 said:
I loved all of them, but I think the not-so-goofy ones are a bit better for modern standards.
FW did some nice sculpts for hats considering the heroes and some warmachine's crew, updating the idea but still having top hats.
The infernal guard was a bit "too plaon" but the lore idea of a "reverse slayer" situation that makes them still fighting for the citadel while still making a vow that respect the idea of dwarvish honor is great.
Also being a "special city" type of army the Azgorh one leaves the main component of the dawi zharr armies undisclosed(save for things like Bull-centaurs).
Still i prefer the vull centaur of the first FW artworks,more dwarvish and less bull.
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@KingBroddthe nice thing about the Ogre of Cursed City is that he's based on the pre-6th edition ones, the classic gw idea before the whole mongolian spin. I'm starting to think they want to get back some "Oldhammer" style to some new niniatures considering what we've seen of these "Morruks'.
About the boxes:a bit angry that KO did'nt get one still probably they would have put the usual ballon boys+gunhauler combo...i still hate that half the boxes did'nt have arkanauts.
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It does seems vaguely similar to one of the three icon of the newsletter.
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12 minutes ago, Thalassic Monstrosity said:
Judging from Whitefang's reactions to your two posts, it seems like our new greenskins ARE in fact a part of Warclans. Not sure how I feel about that personally; I've always felt a bit like Warclans is less a soup tome and more like two separate entrees where you pick one and can include some of the other but why would you because the flavor would be off.
But I'm also an Incredible Dingus.
I admit, i don't like the idea but judging by the reaction it will be so.
Probably i'm biased against cause seems a bad idea to me, warclans already have too "much thing" a third faction could diminish the expansion of this new idea.
I'd hope we'll see also something about the three headed icon of the newsletter mail though. -
Probably their aesthetic and uniqueness (after the fact they are dwarfs).
The idea of mesopotamian\iranian chaos dwarves seems "original enough" without just playing on the old "duergar" fantasy trope.
Still they play on the dwarf worst traits and exaggerate further, without seeming just evils , with their added quirks and things like the whole Hashut cult (that seems really different from other chaos gods).
Also their story is interesting as they continued with the dwarven mindset but tried to avert their doom with a pact forged in damnation.
There was an interesting quote in the Wrfp 2nd edition tome of corruption:
"Where was Grimnir when our warriors were dying? Where was Valaya when our children sickened? When we called out for aid in the deep places where we delved, it was not Grungni who answered our call, but mighty Hashut who delivered us in our time of need. Who are the real traitors here? Our kin who abandoned us to madness and death or we who only sought to survive against the forces of Chaos? One day there will be a reckoning and it will be the Sons of the Father of Darkness who will have the victory, not the weak willed spawn of the pathetic Ancestor Gods."
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The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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To be honest no hint about Kragnos specified something that could lead to think that beastgrave was his prison, as his mountain was never said it was "alive" unlike beastgrave (If i'm not wrong).