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12 hours ago, whispersofblood said:
IMO Khorne has that ability. On the other hand if you are of the first set, you are going to struggle because you don't accept the premise that a tournament player will, some things just aren't good enough to be competitive with.
Personally I believe Khorne has all the tools of a top competitive faction, if does however have a lot of not useful warscrolls.
I would say Khorne can be strong but we are simply not as powerful as the most competitive factions, they are just on another level.
If anyone is a new or old khorne player and wants to see an overview of factions within AoS I highly recommend watching the honest war gamer. He regularly does shows where he takes tournament results and complies them into a league table to see who is actually top
The link above is a GHB review with mark wildman ( a tournament player who recently has done well with Khorne).
The other thing that really matters is context, I always play 2000pts and GHB scenarios. Your views will always differ if your playing 900pts or 1500, home brew missions, intro games at the local GW etc as standard.
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Ok my dude, my reply was half in jest
On a positivity note, BoK is one of the largest ‘new factions’ essentially combining bloodbound and daemons as well as having the STD and BoC units available. This is one of my favourite things about the army, I always have a new unit or character to paint/convert/build.
I feel some new factions have been really underserved by GW, they barely have more than a handful of units to actually play and here we are complaining they’re not balancing 30+ warscrolls.
I’m currently working on some skullcrushers, very tempted by a soul grinder as a big project.
Oh and if anyone is in the south west UK a new gaming venue + shop has opened in Weston-super-Mare, the games bunker has plenty of space upstairs and downstairs, pop down for a game!
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2 hours ago, Xasz said:
If they read this thread, probably none.
GW has a marketing department, we are not it.
This thread is for the debate and discussion of the BoK book, if that involves critical feedback it’s GWs failure, not ours.
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6 hours ago, Charleston said:
I will get a kit of Skullreapers/Wrathmongers today. I already have 1 of each and therefore with the new kit I can either play the Bloodforged or the Skulltake and Slaughterborn. Which of them is better in your opinion?
I don’t really rate either, although I don’t rate many of the battalions. I only use them for the CP and deployment really, extra rules are a bonus.
Are you using the reapers second attack mainly on your bloodletters?
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4 hours ago, Troll.exe said:
My last game I ran reapers,
bloodsecrator, bloodstoker, 2x priests, skarr, bloodmaster(General)
2x 5 blood warriors
20x bloodletters
5x wrathmongers
5x skullreapers
6x mighty skullcrushers
skulls
Im still a little bit restricted with what I have available but managed to make do with the bloodmaster general just to get reapers and the bloodletters run with the wrathmongers and bloodsecrator to make them viable.
My opponent was Stormcast. He ran ballistas, evocators, sequitors, lord castellant and staunch defender etc. Formed up and I ran through him with ease in 3 battle rounds.
The game before that was 3k against nighthaunt. Chainrasps, grimghasts Lady Olynder, kurdoss, blackcoach, vampire lord allied in for the grimghasts. Guardian of souls etc, all the standard stuff. Nothing too scary.
I used much the same lineup, added more bloodletters, 20dogs, another bloodsecrator etc. Held the middle easily with all the anti magic. Almost tabled him, close on victory points though.
I dont have any FEC, skaven, Slaanesh in my area so I’m yet to face them. Definitely going to be some painful lessons at some stage in the future lol.
Looking at dropping the blood stoker, skullcrushers, bloodletters, bloodmaster for BoIR and WoKB that I’m working on currently.
I always play 2000pts tournament conditions, my meta doesn’t include many shooting lists so combat is the main focus.
Agree about the skullcrushers, they just seem so lacklustre nowadays (in 8th Ed they were boss) and even in the various BoK books they’ve been watered down, lost the banner bravery upgrade and lost the mortal wound save on the shields.
skullreapers are better IMO, which is a shame as I’m building a box of 6 crushers haha!
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15 hours ago, Troll.exe said:
Yea quiet possibly. I’d be interested to hear from someone who’s run a full tyrants list post points adjustments. My last few games were a breeze, although I’ve only faced stormcast, seraphon and nighthaunt recently. Regardless I’m really happy with the book and I can only see upside once I’ve finished my next two bloodthirsters.
What list are you currently playing with and against?
i had a game today of shifting objectives against gristlegore FEC, game was a major win to me but it was a close match.
my list:
BoUF, WoKB (reapers), skarr
Minimum gore pilgrims
10 skullreapers
2x5 dogs
hexblah skulls
With the new FAQ I’m getting 90pts which is enough to add 5 blood warriors to the minimum gore pilgrims, id say the list is capable but I’m regularly facing death, FEC and slaanesh- which can all bring back or bring on more models faster than I can and who’s key attack units outstrip anything we have. Gristlegore ghoul king with feeding frenzy, 2x30 reaper units raised back for 1cp or slaanesh BS summoning.
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@Charleston idoneth and Fryeslayers are two strong armies, mortals are the weaker part of the BoK book, change up your list.
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So points changes are in!
Bloodsecrator-20, great for us, still a key unit for me
Skarr bloodwrath-20, I really like this model and it’s nice to squeeze him in more easily, really rate him for objective play/deep strike daemon summon
valkia+20, not sure who was annoyed by her at HQ, not really to bothered but just re-read her cmd ability and I like her more now
BTIR-10, BTUF-30, WKBT-20, now you’re talking! I regularly field two, decent points drop as they’re not esp overpowered or durable compared to other monster heroes.
Skullcannon-10, waste of time, this thing is useless, these things have been 180, 160, 140 and now 130. Maybe just admit defeat and rewrite the rules GW? I’ve never seen them at an event or in casual play, they’re boring! Justice for skullcannons!
Apart from that it’s a bit of a naff FAQ for us, mortal units have really been overlooked this year most could do with a point reduction or for their rules to be properly copy pasted. Unless there is a slaves to darkness book this next year will be pretty stale for the khorne book.
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Most of the hero choices are actually squishy apart from the keeper.
try and snipe the heroes, anything that deals damage when it dies is great against him, so screen those units and charge in after.
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On 7/9/2019 at 12:22 PM, Battlefury said:
because 60.000.000 ( after tax, production cost, wages, rental fees, etc. ) isn't just enough per year.
Really, what i see is, that they just change the rules & stuff that much, to make people buy,News just in! Company tries to make money!
Water is wet!
Careful you don’t get censored by the mods again lol
But in all seriousness you don’t actually think the two factors are linked?
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21 hours ago, Charleston said:
I like the idea of an pinned FAQ but I do not know if the people who are able to change the initial post have the ressources to gather these questions together
We (the frequent users of the thread) would gather the questions and answers together and then message the mod (gaz) who has the first post to amend it with our FAQ.
If anyone is interested in helping out or has noticed a question frequently popping up PM me.
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18 hours ago, Battlefury said:
I would have another question.
The Reapers of Vengeance ( is it command ability ) allows a demon unit to pile in once more. The rules says:
"You can use this command ability at the start of the
combat phase. If you do so, pick 1 friendly REAPERS
OF VENGEANCE DAEMON unit wholly within 8" of a
friendly DAEMON model with this command ability.
After that unit has fought in the combat phase for
the first time, if it is within 3" of an enemy unit it can
immediately make a pile-in move and then attack
with all of the melee weapons it is armed with for a
second time."
Does that mean, it can only be used once? Or cna I stack it, until I have emptied my command points?It can be used to affect a unit once per phase but still can be used multiple times to affect multiple units.
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7 minutes ago, frostfire said:
Quick question here: it the prayer for the slaughter priest works like magic? Can he chant one prayer of his own and one from the prayer list in a turn?
He can do a prayer, blessing and judgment all in the same turn.
@everyone
This has been covered multiple times in this thread, now that it’s reached the 200+ mark I’ve noticed a lot of repeat debates, questions etc should we insert a FAQ in a post on the first page?
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My GHB 2019 review
BoK: no changes
StD: chaos chariots and marauder horsemen are cheaper
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3 hours ago, fwlr said:
With the new meeting engagements ruleset I bet this GHB will be great for you.
Or you could pick up a pack of open war cards and design missions / draw missions based on that.
In terms of replay value, I have to agree that maelstrom from 40k just beats out any other mission really imo. Same game can go many many ways.
I picked up the open war cards ages ago thinking they would be like the 40k data cards.... they are not lol
maesltrom in AoS would be great
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What I would like to see is some kind of new way to play, I also have a side project in 40k and the flexibility and replay value in some of the mission types is far beyond that of AoS.
Maybe some mission types of scenarios that promote better play and not just "hur hur I brought two units of 30 kill boys."
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Marauder horsemen going down in points is a good sign. Hopefully other STD units have also dropped opening up some new possibilities.
I think anything book changing like tithe points nifty resetting or more priest keywords is unlikely at this point.
I’m still painting through my back catalogue and have preordered the book so just have to wait.
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I would be interested in the mercenaries from a modelling perspective, lets you add units you would never normally paint/convert.
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That's a pretty tight summoning space to fit in, within 12 but 9 away. Not sure if you could physically fit the battalion?
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@fwlr fantastic painting! The wings are really great
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20 hours ago, Retro said:
With Murderlust it could attempt to make a charge move, as far as I'm aware if the unit is wiped before the charge phase you could charge again. Hardly a common situation though.
Hmmm yea actually, you could murder lust (charge) a unit of skull-crushers in hero phase, wipe the enemy. Then move and charge a fresh unit.
very situational but sneaky and nasty.
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3 hours ago, ChaosUndivided said:
There is a way using your blood tithe table to move (retreat + run) in ether player's hero phase, then on your next move they can charge again.
A unit cannot charge if it ran previously in the same turn.
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@Impa nice work, really like the scheme and basing!
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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:
Is it worth taking a bunch of slaughterpriests so you can cast Bloodboil multiple times to provide ranged damage?
Yea you can't go wrong with a couple of priests in almost any list, I'm painting up the skulls judgement to give it a few tests.
I actually worry about the priest going up in points in the GHB, the versatility they bring is really good. I wouldn't mind if they let heralds also have blessings.
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AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion
in Chaos
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I would second that, you can fit a ‘blood hunt’ (the battalion you’re referring to) and a ‘tyrants of blood’ in the same army, Ben Johnson took this to one of the GW heats and did well with it - and now post FAQ you’ll have some points spare.
I don’t think ‘the boundless hunt’ - the warscroll from wrath & rapture is valid anymore, it’s points weren’t updated.