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The recent TGA forum poll on favourite armies, ranked Daughters of Khaine with 10,6%. On the same level as eg. Idoneth. Checking the tournament activity, DoK are beeing played quite often, ranking with total games played somewhere in the middle of all active factions (T3 EU tourneys). With a very successfull outcome (still). That paints the following picture: A whole bunch of people likes the army and it is quite present on tournament level. So the popularity of the army seems quite contradictory to the acitivity in our DoK forum. At first glance. I would explain that by supporting the ideas above and adding, that DoK is rarely a beginners army. It used to be (before BR:Morathi) a mass army for experienced and dedicated players. Both financially and time wise. So after learning the basiscs with prominent starting-factions, you would dive into more complex/unusual factions like DoK. Every local meta ist different, but I see that being the case in german-speaking countries. And experienced players like the ones described did their homework. They know how to build lists, understand syngergies and read rules appropriatelly. So there is less to say or to aks in a forum, right? Regarding lore. I recently read the new DoK book - Blood Covens. Its great and a rare DoK novel occastionn. Providing a good idea of the social structure and motivations of DoK. Not only being the Order blood factions aka Blades of Khorne, but far more complex in their behaviour and motivations. Its a pitty that GW often reduces DoK in the battletomes to a frenzy killing machine - ok thats what they are 😄 - but drops the ritual and religous aspects of their story. BR: Morathi and the short story with Malerion are good start in a new direction, so hopefully that continious.

After 3k in pts (see pic) I had enough of the gold scheme for a while. Time for some colorful reinforcements. It even fits lorewise..”in the face of total annihilation our brethren and sisters will join us”..but what color to choose? 😅 ps. One game I mixed in some visually different stormis from a friend of mine. Well, they fit well.

Its not stopping us to enjoy our vanguards, sacrosanct and warrior stormis in AoS 3.0. Im pretty sure there will be viable lists without the new stuff. At least as I see it. I will eg skip the new battleline and get that center piece model I always wanted: Yndrasta! Hi there sweetheart😉

Guys, I need your help. Next week I have a few matches coming up and I finally feel brave enough to try new sects 😃 Till now it has always been the good old Hagg Nar. Here the list I've used so far: Bloodwrack Medusa (100)- General- Lore of Shadows: Mirror DanceMorathi-Khaine (210)- Lore of Shadows: MindrazorThe Shadow Queen (390)Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood (220)- Artefact: Iron Circlet- Prayer: Blessing of KhaineMorgwaeth the Bloodied (80)- Prayer: Catechism of Murder10 x Blood Sisters (260)10 x Blood Stalkers (280)30 x Witch Aelves (300)- Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers4 x The Blade-coven (0)Vyperic Guard (140)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1 Additionally I own the following units unboxed: 10x Witch Aelves, 5x Khinerai. Initially I've thought about Khelt Nar or Khailebron. But what tweaks does my list need? Or do I even need to purchase new units to play those sects efficiently? Thank you all very much!

A very angry little owl 🦉 😆

Omg. Shadow Queen is back to -2 on heartrender. Emailing the sh*** out of GW really worked. Yesssss. Or it was just a typo in the first place. Guess we will never know 😉

Looks great Jack! What kind of blue is that? Looks like a violet tinted wash was added as well

Frankly I’m not a fan of that much blood with DoK. A little here and there is fine (like little Morathi) but with the new endless spells/prayer everything is literally soaked in blood. Dont get me wrong, the snake and the heart looks great. Just too much gore. Khorne already has it, could have stayed their motto imho. What do you guys think?

Thanks. I guess I need a second cauldron then. What do you think - what my list work with khailbron too?

Hi, what about this one. The one concern I have is Medusa as General being only on foot. Easiest solution might be to drop Morgwaeth..but I‘dont like to 😅 any other solutions? Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine- Temple: Hagg NarHag Queen on Cauldron of Blood (220)- Artefact: Iron Circlet - Prayer: Blessing of KhaineMorathi-Khaine (210)- Lore of Shadows: MindrazorThe Shadow Queen (390)Bloodwrack Medusa (100)- General- Command Trait: Devoted Disciples - Artefact: Hag Narr artifact- Lore of Shadows: Steed of ShadowsMorgwaeth the Bloodied (80)- Prayer: Catechism of Murder30 x Witch Aelves (300)- Pairs of Sacrificial Knives10 x Blood Sisters (260)10 x Blood Stalkers (280)4 x The Blade-coven (0)Vyperic Guard (140)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 116

I agree with @Jacek. This CA is used once per turn in your hero phase. I don‘t really see a need for further clarification of the rule.

Did the same on the week the previews arrived.

I had a Hag Narr test game today (see 2k list above)..with my 5 years old daughter. Desperate times require desperate measures 😄 so actually playing against my self..BUT I had some insights. 1) Bloodwrack Medusa as general on foot is very risky. In this game 9 raptors shot her of the table round 1. Afterwards my army falls apart with bad saves. Maybe Khailebron next time. 2) Shadowqueen unbuffed hits like a wet noodle. The rend loss on Heartrender really hurts. Still a good harassing unit/locker but not more. A pity, she is the model why I started DoK in the first place. 3) Mindrazor is so hard to cast omg. 4) Morgwaeth is a steal for 80pts. And the witchbrew is quite doable with 2 haggs. 5) Stalkers. They are the best. Played 10 of them. Still its a pain to be back to Anvil of Heldenhammer SCE playstyle. Initially I chose DoK as my 2nd army to go away from phew phew. But here we are again..I know I could ignore them, but they are so much better than Blood Sisters and I had Melusai boxes laying around. Uff Had a wonderful time still. I enjoyed seeing my daughter being so happy to crush my DoKs with devastating dracolines. 😅

We have our own subforum in Order. Playing such an important role in stabilizing the mortal realms, its the least we deserve 😆 Oh and a list I came up for a game in few days. Any thoughts on that one? HagNarr Morathi-Khaine - Mindrazor Shadow Queen Hag on Cauldron - Blessing of Khaine, Iron Circlet Morgwaeth (Hag) - Cathechism of Murder Bloodwrack Medusa (General) - Mirror Dance, The Ulfuri 30 x Witch Aelves - bucklers 10x Blood Sisters 10x Blood Stalkers Vypiric Guard( Battalion) 1980pts. I would love to give the cauldron the Ulfuri, but the Iron Circlet feels still too important. Hmm

You’re right. My bad

Only avatars counts as behemoths. So running 4 at 2k would be fine. Insane but still fine 😄

Great catch. Haven’t noticed that sweet detail even after reading that rule several times Edit: Compared the wording to other FNPs in other books. Eg. Ido ship. Always „units“ if its applicable to a range. So quite unique rule we have, right?

After few days and playing around with some lists..I really start to love the new book 😻 no autoplay with witchbrew anymore, no must have unit choices. Everything is possible and viable now! Even on competitive level. Great times to be around in Age of Sigmar and with DoK!

No they didn’t. It has been -2 rend, since the last battletome. They changed the amount of attacks though. I wrote my mail to GW today regarding the rend nerf, my first ever. Today I understood an important lesson. GW changes rules in a direction (BR: Mirathi) I get excited and extend my army that way. Finding optimal balance of great models and efficiency on the table. Hundred of € and hours of painting later.. I did it - its perfect 😍 But that seems not the goal of a profit driven company. So they change everything outstanding (Morathi, W.Aelves) into mediocrity and push something different (eg Lifetakers/Stalkers) to the hotspot. I could run after that new carrot 🥕 the new perfect balance. But nah, who cares. I will try some games the way it is and overcome that salty feeling of beeing robbed one day.

I really hope that. Trying to stay positive and adapt to new play styles, but Morathi being nerfed so quickly leaves a very bitter taste to me.

CA to keep up is just.. really bad. A command ability to extend cauldrons bubble or make it more potent would be more like it.

I wonder about the CA in Hag Narr. What is the point of spending 1CP to move the cauldron 3“. Just for the +1save bubble. Or to be closer to buff next time? Am I missing something? Sounds less great compared to other sects CA imho Edit: Oh and no Battalions with Idoneth. I hoped so much for that. Guess you cant have it all 😅

Everything seems strong to me. Great. It seems also as we are being prepared to keep up for the next two years of power creep and ed 3.0 coming up 😄

Sounds like Ironscale might soon make Melusai battleline as well 🥳

Im not a fan of predatory endless spells either. Trying to make the double turn less oppressive is a good idea, but then change the rules. No need to implement spells which you pay the points for, but can be used against you. 😅 the reason why the comet is great for sce..besides all that crazy impact damage 😉