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March 20, 2020

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March 20, 2020

On 3/17/2020 at 3:39 PM, Matt Large said:

Any decent competative 1000 point Kharadron list? Planning on going to an AOS doubles in June (assuming its all good by then)

A few ideas (I play Zilfin)

Dirigible Suit - Grudgebearer - Staff
2 x 6 Endrin Riggers
10 Company
Gunhauler - Torpedo
Frigate - Skymines

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Dirigible Suit - Grudgebearer - Staff
2 x 3 Endrinriggers
Gyrocopter
Ironclad

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Khemist - Collector - Staff
Khemist - Spell in a Bottle

10 Company
Frigate
6 Endrinriggers
Gunhauler
Warplighting Vortex

Any ideas would be great. It's for a doubles teaming up with Serephon.

I don't think anyone's responded to this yet (probably just got lost in the other posts) so I'll take a crack at it. Keep in mind I don't have a huge amount of experience playing personally but I think I know enough to point you in the right direction at least.

List 1: This could be workable. Stick the Arks in the frigate with the Endrinmaster and one of the Riggers squads to fly with it, and the other Rigger squad with the Gunhauler. Though I'd replace the Skymines with something else, like the Omniscope, unless you're expecting a lot of flyers. Otherwise the Skymines are useless.

List 2: I find it hard to like this list because you'd have so few models on the table. You've only got 12 wounds worth of Battleline there, and they're not that sturdy either. You need more bodies in a 1k list I think.

List 3: This is pretty similar to a list I wanted to try actually. This one's got potential but I think having 2 Khemists in this list is too much. I don't see what they'd each be buffing. Might want to give one Khemist both Collector and the Bottle then bring either a Navigator or normal Endrinmaster instead.

March 16, 2020

19 hours ago, Sttufe said:

My thoughts exactly, I love the sky wardens, they look so good and I feel like theyshould be better, a fast cavalry unit perfectly suits an aggressive tactic, so I will keep plugging away at charging my enemies high value targets (because charging a unit of 60 stabbas sucks when 15 fanatics jump out ). Oh wait, I ave an idea, maybe I am not using enough wardens...

I understand that they need to be balanced cause they can fly, but it'd still be nice if the were a little sturdier, or a little cheaper so you could bring more.

And I do love Riggers too. They're like battle mechanics and that's awesome. It's just always felt odd to me that they're better in melee than a unit with actual weapons.

17 hours ago, Nightgaunt said:

How does everyone feel about Gunhaulers, are they worth it? I will hopefully magnetize the gun but was curious if anyone used Drill Cannons on them, they seem less flexible than the standard cannon. Also what Endrinworks do you like best on haulers? Coalbeard's Collapsible Compartments seems like a really useful one, but if I run two and have the space I'm not sure how the others stack up.

They're really good right now actually. Use them to cover bigger ships or have them go on sniping adventures. Compartments are the perfect size for a minimum Thunderer squad too. Give them a Rigger escort and you got a nice little, ranged murder ball.

Considering the drill has insane range, -3 rend and has a 1/3 chance (5+) to deal 3 mortal wounds on hit? It's hard to say no to. Though the shrapnel sky cannon might be better for big blobs of models.

March 15, 2020

6 hours ago, 5kaven5lave said:

Yeah, it helps to be adaptable with your Rigger placement. Ships can heal wounds but Riggers can’t normally be healed up or rezzed so sometimes it’s better to let the ship take a few to heal them back next round.

Re: Combat Phase question, it’s any player’s phase unless stated otherwise.

Ok yeah, that's pretty big. Charge any of our boats and risk immediate mortal wounds. I'll have to remember that.

Also since I'm a hopeless dingus who desperately wants Skywardens to be really good. I'm taking a look at some of the other Codes, Command Traits and Artefacts that we have outside of the main Sky Ports that could be useful for them. I only found one. Pretty much all the Command Traits only affect the Hero themself.

Footnote: There's No Trading With Some People. Once a battle a unit that has run/retreated this turn can still shoot/charge.

Retreat with Wardens to use their Timed Charges, then shoot and charge back in to fight again. Only once per battle but potentially worth it if the unit survived to the turn after their initial charge. Can't get this Footnote in a Zon list, sadly. You COULD potentially get this Footnote into an Urbaz list though. The Urbaz command trait is only mandatory if your General is Khemist. But if your General is an Admiral you could give them A Scholar and an Arkanaut to pick an extra Footnote.

Whether this is better than just going Zon and giving Wardens 3+ hit and 2+ wound on all their charges though is another question. Zon pretty much gives Wardens the same melee profile as Riggers on the charge. Riggers still have the -2 rend but Wardens get 2 attacks with their Pikes at 2".

It's not gonna stop me trying to use Wardens in other lists though. I am as stubborn as a dwarf on this. XD What's the worst that's gonna happen? The Wardens get slaughtered and I potentially lose the game. Boo hoo, I'll try something different the next time. I'm still new, I'm gonna lose a lot anyways. 😜

March 15, 2020

Idea for hitching Wardens on a boat flying high.

If your opponent has flyers in range to charge, use Wardens as a screen since they can punish charging flyers. If not, do the reverse. Hide the Wardens behind the boat and wait for the enemy to make their move. Then the following turn you can move in, shoot and charge them.

Also, a question. Bomb Racks rule says "At the start of the combat phase". Does that mean only my combat phase or ANY combat phase?

March 12, 2020

20 minutes ago, Phasteon said:

I think they dont match the 5+ Save of HGB very well with that Thunderers armor, how about playing them as Hammerers? You could convert a Warden King count as and call them „Grundstok Bounty Hunters“ or sth like that and the CA of the warden king (+1 attack) „marks“ the target. That would be more fitting imo.

Edit; I totally forgot that Hammerers stand on 25mm bases though... Yeah so maybe HGB are technically more fitting...

What would be cool if you could somehow „show on the model“ that they have a 5+ Save because they are more offensive oriented but their „Scientist Boss“ (aka Runesmiter that absolutely doesnt pray but gives them Aethersteroids (tm) for rr wounds) has a kind of „energy field“ thats why they get the boosted 4++ when within 10“.

Without him its 6++ bc baby energy field.

I was thinking about Hammerers as an option too. I mean, the Thunderers models aren't that big. I could order some 25mm bases and just glue them to those. They'd probably fit. I just wish there was a unit with 4+ save and 2 wounds. XD

Maybe for the HGB I could give them bare arms and no helms or something to make them look like they have a worse save or something. 😜

March 12, 2020

Yanno what, I'm tempted to kitbash some Thunderers and give them all the Skypike bits I have left over from my 9 sawriggers and have them count as something else. Maybe the Hearthguard Berserkers or something. (Then I could get a cheaper KO hero to count as the Runesmiter so I don't need to buy a whole magmadroth)

Btw sorry if I'm super talkative today. I was out of my meds for like 4 days straight and now that I'm back on them I'm full of vim and vigor. Relatively speaking at least.

March 12, 2020

I just noticed something interesting. The Gun Butt of Grundstok Thunderers has the same exact weapon profile as the Cutters in an Arkanauts Company. And the Drillbill is similarish to a Skypike. So, not counting for unit abilities, 10 Thunderers could match 10 Arkanauts in melee prowess. ....which is still nothing to write home about, but makes Thunderers as a battleline more inviting. Aside from the cost anyway.

March 12, 2020

1 hour ago, Kramig said:

Hello! I am starting kharadron and I am assembling 15 skywardens/endriggers. Can you please give me suggestions about which is better assembly: endriggers or skywardens? Also which weapons?

Thank you so much

To add to what @Sttufe said, it also depends on what you want to use them for.

Riggers are there to support your boats with ranged fire, healing, or being a melee screen. They basically want to be stuck to your boats like lamprey on a shark. Can't go wrong with 3-6 riggers assigned to a skyvessel.

Wardens are best in a Zon list due to the specific buffs they get, and in general are better equipped to go off and intercept other enemies. They have a longer melee reach with more attacks (though less hit chance and rend), can potentially deal mortal wounds to flying enemies that charge, and can deal mortal wounds to units when retreating. Have them float behind a squad of Arkanauts and lay in the pain.

I'd suggest 6 Riggers with special weapons to start with though. Maybe a 3 dorf squad of Skywardens in addition if you wanted to experiment.

March 12, 2020

Another couple of notes on the whole Barak-Thryng debate. The amendment states that "any DUARDIN" unit can be included in the army. Per the latest battletome, the only allies we can bring must have the keyword Stormcast Eternals, Fyreslayers, Dispossessed or Ironweld Arsenal. And there are plenty of Duardin units without any of those keywords, including Gotrek. It doesn't state that the Duardin keyword gets added to our available ally list, or that they get to be included despite not being on the ally list. It also doesn't state that any allies we add that are Duardin get the Barak-Thryng keyword. All of this lends to the idea that Duardin units added to our army via the amendment are not considered allies.

And one last thing to note. The Core Rules as shown before? State 1 out of 4 units. No points mentioned at all. So if we're going my that and the amendment does count as allies, the 200 ally pts per 1000 army points rule doesn't exist at all. So points don't matter, only unit count. (Though if true that does mean my 'cheat' to get around the 1:4 amendment limit by adding in extra by using ally points would be illegal but eh it felt like cheating anyway)

March 11, 2020

45 minutes ago, Sttufe said:

This had better be a thing and it has to happen. Please post pictures once this happens, this is gonna be great.

I second this.

Meanwhile, I've been tempted to make a Little Jack since I had first set eyes on a Frigate with a Skyhook.

March 10, 2020

15 minutes ago, Phasteon said:

Thats not correct. It says „can be a Duardin unit thats not a Kharadron Overlords unit.“

So you are clearly allowed to break the usual „allegiance“-rule in this case.

This is correct. If you're running Barak-Thryng, you can include Duardin units without having to count them as allies, and while they don't get the KO keyword, they do get the Barak-Thryng keyword. I can bring a 10 model unit of Hearthguard Berzerkers in a 1000 pt Thryng list even though that breaks the 200pt ally limit, cause they're not allies. You CAN still bring extra Duardin units as allies though to 'cheat' the 1:4 rule, they just won't get the Thryng keyword and will count towards ally costs.

I've confirmed this on the Azyr list builder. (Though BattleScribe hasn't been updated for this yet)

March 10, 2020

Sat down and got my Admiral finished up!

March 5, 2020

8 hours ago, Phasteon said:

Edit: Except for aetherpowered Duardin Terminators. I‘d totally dig them

Dude, that'd be sick though. Like an elite squad of Endrinharness equipped dorfs. Like Skyriggers but tougher and ground only maybe.

Not that I don't love Fyreslayers models but kitbashing something together with heavier armor and a harness could work as Hearthguard. Maybe mixing Skyriggers and Thunderer bits. >.> (Already had my first experience with Green Stuff now in my attempt to make a female fyreslayer Hearthguard)

6 hours ago, Beliman said:

100% agree. But At this moment, I'm not to worried by the power-level of our rules.

Btw, Congratz to the Kharadron General that just won Age of Leapmar!!

And woo! Great to see us win a tourney! This tome is just what we needed. I'll definitely feel my losses are my fault rather than weakish rules. XD;

March 2, 2020

3 hours ago, Sttufe said:

Ah, I haven't looked at the Fyreslayers cuz I have barely begun on KO, so I didn't look at him. Could be cool, but what if you put the Magmadroth inside the ironclad? Let shenanigans ensue. Same with putting a bomber, or a steam tank. (are steam tanks Duardin? I can't check because warscrolls aren't loading.)

Ah yeah, just checked the scroll. Can't deep strike on a magmadroth. And putting one in an ironclad? Madness.

Though I kinda wish we could give Irondrakes the Marine keyword. Stick them on an Ironclad and go all Firelord Ozai and burn EVERYTHING. 😜 But alas.

I do still want to make a Thryng list with Fyreslayers someday though. Even if it's not competitive, it'll be fun. (Maybe I should just get the starter box and maybe make a Fyreslayer list on the side cause Runesmiter is expensive on his own)

I'm gonna get the last models done for that list suggested to me before hopefully this week so I can build up the mental fortitude to find a game.

March 2, 2020

11 hours ago, Sttufe said:

So I had an idea right, the main problem with Thryng (as I see it) is that the units you take along are used as a screen and that's about it. They just don't have the mobility to keep up with the rest of your army, which is a problem since that's kinda one of our main focuses.

One option for this could be to use a Runesmiter and a unit of Fyreslayers. They can deep stike with your boats and provide a beefy wall in front of them. And if you have the points, put the smiter on a magmadroth. 😜

March 2, 2020

7 hours ago, Scruf said:

Last week was 750 points and I ran this list without the Admiral and 20 block of ArCo and it was a blast.

Nice! Are a 3 model unit of riggers effective in smaller lists? I get worried they'd die too fast.

February 29, 2020

First Gunhauler stage 1 painting done! Needs a second coat in some areas, shading and detailing. Hoping to get that done this weekend.

February 28, 2020

@Garamond loving those custom names! And the heads on the riggers as well.

@Cauthon Thanks for the list idea! I think that'll work well. Now I just gotta decide if I mark 4 of my Riggers (I had built them all with saws, thanks 1st tome meta) or build 4 of my Skyriggers to use those special weapons. I'm gonna probably have to wait for a while until I get ready for my list that uses Wardens anyway so I may as well model some special weapons in. It'll also be helpful if I play Warcry.

And yeah, one big issue I was having making my list is that I got locked in this idea that I HAD to through some Thunderers on a boat, but with how pricey they are now, it's just a touch harder to fit them in a smaller list. At least for me.

February 27, 2020

Hey folks, this might be asking for a lot but I'm having a lot of trouble making a 1k list that I like. I'm always left with 40-80 points to spare and nothing to put in it. I have come up with some 2k lists I like and want to try, but I don't have the models yet. And I'd like to try to get playing at my local shop before then.

So...if anyone's willing to help me, I'll list here what models I currently have, both built and not. And maybe something will click? For Sky-Port I'm not super picky for this small list. Maybe Zon, Thryng or Urbaz. But any's fine. I can use the ones not built, I just figured I'd separate them.

Assembled
30x Arkanauts
9x Endrinriggers
10x Thunderers
1 of each Hero including Endrinmaster on Balloon
1 Frigate
1 Gunhauler
Thundrik's Privateers (could also just have Thundrik himself as a second Khemist)

Owned but not Assembled
10x Arkanauts
6x Skyriggers (planning to make them Wardens)
1 Gunhauler (Technically assembled but in a few pieces waiting priming)
1 Ironclad
5x Hearthguard (Fyreslayers)

So if anyone's willing to try to help me make a list out of these, great. If not, that's ok. I'll keep plugging away at it either way.

February 24, 2020

Anyone know any good battle report videos of KO using the new book? I really want to see our army in action. I'm still working on the models I need for my new list.

February 19, 2020

4 hours ago, zilberfrid said:

I was clicking about in the "Squats" portion of 1d4 chan, and there's a lot of overlap.

Their armoured zeppelin flagship (!) is even called the Overlord.

So much inspiration, so little time.

Does anyone know what the word Kharadron means?

I've considered many times to try to play an Imperial Guard list and use the KO models and call them Squats. My only real concern is base sizes.

"Why is there a Steampunk boat on the board?"

"Shhhhh. That's a Leman Russ."

February 19, 2020

Getting my Gunhaulers built and doing some magnet shenanigans so I can swap out their main guns and ammo supplies.

February 13, 2020

@Beliman Loving that list. Let us know how those Skywardens do!

As for me, I threw together a 1k Zilfin list I want to try some time.

Allegiance: Kharadron Overlords
- Sky Port: Barak Zilfin
Aether-Khemist (90)
- General
- Command Trait: Collector
- Artefact: Spell in a Bottle
Aetheric Navigator (100)
- Artefact: Staff of Ocular Optimisation
10 x Arkanaut Company (90)
- 1x Skypikes
- 1x Light Skyhooks
- 1x Aethermatic Volley Guns
10 x Arkanaut Company (90)
- 1x Skypikes
- 1x Light Skyhooks
- 1x Aethermatic Volley Guns
Arkanaut Frigate (250)
- Main Gun: Heavy Sky Cannon
- Great Endrinworks: Malefic Skymines
3 x Endrinriggers (100)
5 x Grundstok Thunderers (120)
1 x Grundstok Gunhauler (150)
- Main Gun: Drill Cannon
- Great Endrinworks: Coalbeard's Collapsible Compartments
Malevolent Maelstrom (10)

Total: 1000 / 1000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 65
Thunderers in the Gunhauler, one of the Companies in the Frigate. Riggers hang out with the Frigate. Though I wish I had more room in the Frigate for at least one of the heroes. Maybe I could load it up anyway then disembark until it can Fly High afterwards?

February 11, 2020

32 minutes ago, Phasteon said:

After some thinking about the streanghts and weaknesses of the army Barak-Nar kind of feels like a choice for fun games. I cant see this skyport do anything competitive the other ports dont do better.

Except unbinding, but I cant tell if its worth it.

They do get extra command points as well. Roll a d6 for every hero you have and on each 4+ you get a free command point. And it looks like you have 4 heroes so that's statistically an average of 2 free points per game.

36 minutes ago, Phasteon said:

But tbh, this list sucks compared to the Urbaz list ive ran so far

But it looks fun.

Hey, if you can't have fun with it, then what's the point? I mean. Winning is good too of course but I feel like sometimes you just have to throw models onto the table and see what works. (Unless you're in like a formal tourney or something, then you should probably be more serious.)

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