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6 hours ago, TALegion said:
@Warbossironteef I've run the warboss a few times in a Big Waaagh list, but I was using only IJ units. He provides a large buff for affected units, but I found it somewhat difficult to keep 2+ full units wholly within 15"/18" of him after charges and piling in. He was especially effective with Ardboyz in BW because it mades them hit and wound on 2s, rerolling 1s to wound, with 3 attacks each. With +1 damage, they can shred most things with ease
His warscroll hasn't been updated to be "wholly" within (unless it's been FAQ'ed) somewhere.
So you would only need one model from the unit to be close enough to him.
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If anything I would say that generation is probably a bit too quick and easy.
My army is almost always fully buffed by turn 2. And most of the time using the extra attack Command is usually not worth the risk of losing your buffs. So you spend almost 4 turns with everything at +1/+1 which is crazy strong. (essentially its every model in the army sipping on old school battlebrew!)
turn 1 you can reliably get off the "defensive" buffs. which help you manoeuvre about and survive some turn 1 stuff.
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20 minutes ago, whiskeytango said:
Hey, instead of insulting him, lets just meet him where he's at.
@Cid I, unlike others, do kind of think that there shouldn't be a monster running around with a 2+ save, re-rolling 1's. Be thankful he didn't have the ethereal amulet making that 2+ unrendable as well. However, as has been pointed out, no one here on this forum can do anything about that, so we'll go in a different direction for your issue. Lets start with some basics, what army do you play/what did you bring to the battle/what do you have available to you?
you cant use ethereal amulet with it as the trait is a save modifier.
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On 1/19/2020 at 12:07 AM, Malakree said:
GG+ironfist...I abused the everliving ****** outta the hero phase charge, run and retreat to a 3" pile in. It's so disgusting I can't even begin to express it. Literally won me game 2 vs tyrants of blood because I had a free hand break mechanism vs the always strikes first.
Can you explain this in a bit more depth? Ta.
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I think Warscroll builder is probably having an off day.
Follows the book - you have access to them all!
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haha - Its perfect!
I will now quote this whenever I pull off the move.
And name the shaman to Timone!
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4 hours ago, Kasper said:
if you manage to get a teleport off on the pigs or Maw Krusha, you can 100% secure the charge by placing them 12,5" away, then MD them just outside of 3".
I've been doing this in my games too - its such a beautiful move.
It should be easier to counter as you need to find space 12" away from opponents stuff. But getting a unit of buffed up angry pigs into a back line is great.
Also adding in the +1 to charges from the Big Waagh buffs means that the charge cant fail. So as long as the spell is cast its pretty much a point and click death star of porkyness!
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11 minutes ago, DestructionFranz said:
So, the Ardfist was just nerfed.
Sigh... 😞
You mean clarified to how it was originally intended.
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Anyone thought about putting Sword of Judgement artefact on the Megaboss on Mawkrusha (from Big Waagh army).
With Waagh points and command ability, (and also the +1 to hit prayer from warchanter) you could be doing D6 mortal wounds in 3+ vs heroes and monsters.
Is this better than Rend -3 artefact though?
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If a daemon prince kills a hero/monster - and then you roll 'replace with a daemon prince'.
Presume you just heal it up to full?
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@Chris Tomlin I think we have someone else coming from Swindon. So happy to take @Carnelian and fill up the 6 slots!
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8 minutes ago, annarborhawk said:
Here it is:
I like it. So an average charge roll of 7 for a Stonehorn will result in 3 1/2 mortals. So maths-out a bit better than the current rule.
(And assuming Thundertusks are also Rhinox's - they will do mortals on charge as well).
(For mournfangs, this is a downgrade on mortal wounds on charge unless you run a unit of 8).
surely they will all have the Ogor keyword though?
#guessing before seeing the book
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Would like to be able to vote twice here:
14 - when I bought my first bit of GW stuff (it was when the first bought out the LOTR model / paint subscription stuff to coincide with the movies). I never really did very much though other than play some random games ever couple of months using half the rules / half made up rules). I then stopped at 17.
25 - Found out a friend was into AoS and was drawn back into the hobby. This time with a greater understanding of gaming / painting / modelling / etc.
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Played my first game with the Warclans against a Gristlegore "Ghoul Patrol" army.
Couple of caveats: (first time both of us had played for quite a while; my list was a "bring stuff to see what it does" rather than hone a list yet; both of us forgot rules along the way, but it didnt have a major impact on the outcome).
Scenario - shifting objectives
My list:
Gordrakk, Wurgogg (General: command trait and artefacts to increase spell casting), Wardokk, 2 x warchanters.
30 savage orruks, 10 brutes, 10 ardboyz, 3 goregruntaz, Cogs
Major win to me - 19/18 points. Was very close to tabling him by the end of turn 5 and lost very little in return. With some more intelligent play I could have reduced his points a bit (see caveats above).
Take aways / interesting moments / notes:
Whilst Gordrakk didnt pay back his points back in terms of what he killed, the fact that he gave me 6 Waagh points a turn meant that from turn 2 onwards I could pop the Big Waagh ability every turn - meaning my turns were an overwhelming numbers of buffed attacks.
11 Savage Orruks killed a GKonTG from full health! They were buffed with everything (damned terrain), +1 attack / hit / wound from Waagh. The sheer number of attacks going through to be saved was totally overwhelming. They were also super quick: D6" move in hero phase (damage from damned terrain) + cogs + extra charge distance + double movement spell meant they travelled 30" in a single turn (and could have gone a lot further!)
At one point I had the Wurgogg prophet on +6 to cast, meaning most spells went off without fear of being dispelled. But it also meant his warscroll spell obliterated any horde units that came near him.
Whilst Cogs did benefit my opponent during the game, the extra movement was of greater value to me and the bloodthirsty orruks.
Throwing a unit of ardboyz or brutes buffed by a warchanter and the Big Waagh abilities will slaughter most things.
The goregruntaz died before I got to see how much they have improved!
Having the big unit of 30 savage orruks meant that after some turn 1 "spreading" my footprint was pretty significant and blocked off any chance of important characters being alpha striked / flanked by reinforcements.
My opponent refused on a couple of occasions to double turn me, through concern he wouldnt kill enough to get value from this; but also more through fear of what my army could do to him through my own double turn.
I'm going to use the list a couple of more times to get comfortable with rules, but I start to refine.
Already looking forward to my next game - such a fun army to play now.
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Are there any / many spots left?
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21 minutes ago, TALegion said:
Da Big Waaagh doesn't make you lose your Waaagh points until the end of the combat phase. For the whole phase, you will have all three: +1 to hit, +1 to wound, and +1 attacks.
Oh my - thanks for the clarification
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Can someone who is better at maths theorise whether its best to use the Big WAAAGH +1 attack ability whenever you can?
Or is +1 to hit and wound rolls better (5/6 chance of losing this buff when you Big Waaaaagh).
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Reminder that this is on this weekend.
7 spots left!
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Thinking of taking the following list:
LEADERS
Frostlord on Stonehorn (420) (with the artifact that makes him immune to rend)
Huskard on Thundertusk (360)
- Chaintrap
Huskard on Thundertusk (360)
- Chaintrap
Fungoid Cave-Shaman (80)
Moonclan Grot Shaman (80)
UNITS
10 x Savage Orruks (120)
10 x Savage Orruks (120)
10 x Savage Orruks (120)
WAR MACHINES
Grot Spear Chukka (120)
Grot Spear Chukka (120)
ENDLESS SPELLS
Chronomantic Cogs (60)
Aethervoid Pendulum (40) / Although maybe swap for gemenidsReason for artifact choice is that it makes the stonehorn a bit more tankier (since the nerf to stone skeleton). And as mystic shield is no longer +1 to save its quite difficult to improve it now.
Any thoughts suggestions on endless spells?
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Hi Chris
Sorry to be "that guy".
Have you had any thoughts on whether you will be using the realm rules for the games played at blackout?
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Pano accepted by grudge last night. Looking forward to a shouty first game.
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Need to have a conversation with the wife (the Sunday falls on her birthday).
Watch this space ....
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Chris, can you explain why you put crackle paint over some PVA?
Do you wait for the PVA to dry?
If its still wet do you mix them slightly?
I generally apply my crackle paint THICCly and it works quite well.
Doing a wash of lahmiam is an absolute must! everyone needs to do this. Saves your base from falling apart when you drybrush.
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46 minutes ago, Chris Tomlin said:
I also took Dave's shoe and intimated I would drop it on the table if I successfully cast Foot of Gork. Fortunately I didn't and just chucked it at @Caffran101 instead!!
Who throws a shoe?!
Glad you didnt go into any details about Mike Porter as well.
Was great seeing you. You're models look sweet as hell! Maybe we will try and get a grudge at the next Chump Invitational?
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AoS 2 - Orruk Warclans Discussion
in Destruction
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So they updated the Azyr one, but not the one on the GW website? Urg - honestly.