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    AoS 2 - Dispossessed Discussion

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    14 hours ago, Bolgan said:

    I think some battleplans are much more challenging for Dispossessed to win. Age of Sigmar isn't that balanced to begin with and certain battleplans will hinder us further. Pickaxe is a crutch (a pretty good one) and without it Dispossessed would probably be underdogs in 90% of objective games. The game in general is only loosely balanced (it's not chess after all), but I still have competitive games ~50% of the time.

    The way I play is to focus on just enough objectives I need to win, because Dispossessed don't have the mobility to respond well to the enemy mid-way through the battle. To help, I pickaxe a unit of 20 irondrakes that tries to A) snipe whatever my opponent needs to win and B) cap an objective I couldn't otherwise reach. I haven't played against Skaven yet, but it sounds tough. I would try to shoot their heroes / damage dealers, out-grind their infantry and hope to steal objectives late in the game by reducing their numbers. If you can't figure it out, just play someone different.

    It's kinda hard to play someone different when we are just about the only players at the store. 

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    How do you play Dispossessed in objective games? I'm looking over battleplans in the GHB and most seem like guaranteed loses. I know pickaxe is our bread and butter, but it still seems very limited. I usually play against skaven and the hoard and mortal wound spam is already pretty daunting, let alone trying to race to objectives.

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    10 hours ago, DrDemento said:

    Who and how is terrain setting up?Sounds problematic...

    We had a third guy set up the terrain. The area near my territory was littered with choke points forcing me to either funnel my army slowly through them while being bombarded with a mortal wound gunline or split up and go around the terrain while being bombarded with mortal wounds.  It was roughly set up like this with the green being my deployment zone. 

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    AoS 2 - Dispossessed Discussion

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    Welp, I finished my game against Skaven and I really feel like I want to throw my Dispossessed in the trash now. I have never felt this much rage before. 

    Here is the list he ran.
    Allegiance: Chaos
    Verminlord Warpseer (260)
    20 x Clanrats (120)
    - Rusty Spear
    20 x Clanrats (120)
    - Rusty Blade
    20 x Clanrats (120)
    - Rusty Spear
    1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
    1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)
    Warp Lightning Cannon (180)

    Total: 930 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 21
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 84
     

    And here the list I ran.
    Allegiance: Dispossessed
    - Grudge: Cowardly Hordes
    Warden King (120)
    - General
    - Trait: Resolute 
    Runelord (100)
    - Artefact: Ancestral Pickaxe 
    Knight-Incantor (140)
    - Allies
    20 x Warriors (160)
    - Double-handed Duardin Axes & Shields
    10 x Longbeards (100)
    - Great Axes & Shields
    10 x Ironbreakers (140)
    10 x Irondrakes (180)

    Total: 940 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 21
    Allies: 140 / 400
    Wounds: 65
     

    He would never advance with his troops. He stayed back and sniped at me with mortal wounds while I waddled my army slowly across the table. Half my army was dead by the time I got to the point where he started charging forward. The terrain was in such a way that my army was split up around buildings.  His Warpseerer kept spawning giant rats every turn. I was too far away to do anything about them, so by the time I got close to his army, he had nearly his entire side filled with giant rats. I never got a chance to pickax because I could never find in opening and also because he obliterated my Irondrakes with his spells. I am honestly so extremely pissed that artillery is not considered Dispossessed. I need long-range support, but it is so expensive as an ally. I just want to win ONE DAMN GAME! I am thinking of starting Legions of Nagash just so I can be competitive in the meta. As much as I love my Dwarfs, their status in Age of Sigmar makes me want to just trash them. It makes me even more mad that Dispossessed will likely never get a battletome. It's all so tiresome.

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    @Arkanaut Admiral @Dammaz @DrDemento

    Here is what my friend played last game. I don't remember the items or abilities he had.

    Allegiance: Chaos
    Chaos Dragon (340)
    Exalted Hero Of Chaos (80)
    - General
    Bloodsecrator (140)
    20 x Chaos Marauders (120)
    - Flails
    - Mark of Chaos: Khorne
    20 x Bloodreavers (140)
    - Reaver Blades
    Chaos Gargant (180)

    Total: 1000 / 1000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 72
     

    He has changed army comp every game we have played. First game he had Blades of Khorne, Second he had Khorne Daemons, now he is running the list above. I had an easier time with the demons, but the summoning is brutal. The better I did, the worst off I was. long term.  Last game was the first time we played a game with objectives. Most of the terrain was in my territory so I had a hard time with deployment. One thing that also causes me trouble is that I forget to shield wall with my units. I am very new to the hobby and game so I have trouble remembering the rules. I am glad the person I play with is patient with me. The list I am playing are the only models I own besides a Knight Incantor, Lord Ordinator, Battle Mage, and a Cog Smith. I don't really have the money to be buying tons of models to experiment with.

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    31 minutes ago, Bolgan said:

    The warscrolls in the Age of Sigmar app are more up to date (there are a few important differences in the ones from the website). Not sure how you'd go about printing them out though.

    Your list doesn't look too bad. I prefer to bring fewer but bigger units. They're pretty good at ignoring battleshock, you keep your 20+ models bonus longer and you get more models for the same points. That said, I lost every game when I started dispossessed. I eventually got better, but a few things stand out: 1) Get a unit of 20 irondrakes and use the pickaxe with them, 2) Don't run or charge unless you have to because you need that armour save re-roll and 3) You don't have to table them, you need to hold just enough objectives and then grab the tiebreaker with a pickaxing unit.

    So get rid of the organ gun and bomber and take 10 more Drakes or Drop the organ gun and the ironbreakers for 10 more warriors and drakes?

    AoS 2 - Dispossessed Discussion

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    How do I even play this army? There is only one guy at my store who plays AoS and he beats me every time. He plays Chaos and I play Dispossessed obviously. Every game we play, he crushes me easily and there seems to be nothing I can do about it. As much as I like having an army that I like the look of, it really hurts my self-esteem being beaten all the time and never seeing my models I worked so hard on doing anything of note. Last game I played, he flanked my Irondrakes with a Chaos Gargant and wiped the entire 10 model unit out with a single combat round. I am just getting sick of this hobby since I am not having any fun playing. 

    Here is my current list. Ignore the lack of grudge since it is situational.

    Allegiance: Dispossessed
    Warden King (120)
    - General
    - Trait: Resolute 
    Runelord (100)
    - Artefact: Ancestral Pickaxe 
    20 x Warriors (160)
    - Double-handed Duardin Axes & Shields
    10 x Longbeards (100)
    - Great Axes & Shields
    10 x Ironbreakers (140)
    10 x Irondrakes (180)
    Organ Gun (120)
    - Allies
    Gyrobombers (80)
    - Allies

    Total: 1000 / 1000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 200 / 200
    Wounds: 69
     

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    15 hours ago, Ragnar Alpaca said:

    Bombers are quite cheap I think, they’re only 80 points that’s not too bad for what they are, I just don’t like that we can only take a certain number of allies.

    I'm talking about actual money, $48 for a 4 wound model.

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    12 hours ago, Seraphage said:

    If you 'll invest at warmachines take at least 2 and a gunmaster with them.

    Suggestion : always go for a Gyrocopter. Better mobility, does have some threat for some inches and could be proven a real deal vs hordes situationally. Bombers are n1 at rule of cool but the movement and type of ability make them underwhelming for "comp" lists :P

    I think my biggest problem with the copters is how expensive they are for a single model.

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    Gyrobomber or Gunmaster? Most games I play sees my Gyrobomber hardly contributing to the game. My allies in a 1000 point list is an Organ Gun and a Gyrobomber, but I am thinking of going all the way with the Organ Gun and taking a Gunmaster. What do you think?

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