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25 minutes ago, Dead Scribe said:
What I'm reading a lot is people complaining that the game is not balanced and that their armies are getting flattened by the armies that are strong. That problem will be present in tournament play, pick up play, narrative play, or even open play.
This is my experience. I stopped playing casually long ago because I’d show up to a casual game with a fluffy army only to fight a round five ****** stomp list the opponents swears is casual. At least in tournament play there is an equal expectation of what you will see across the table.
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Model update? Years
rules it’s hard to say we just got spell lores in the ghb. That could mean our book is a long way off and this is to hold us over another year or that our book is done and stuck in shipping hell like that the sylvaneth stuff. It’s impossible to say.
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9 hours ago, PJetski said:
I prefer Stegadon + Bastiladon. Rerolling saves on the Bastiladon is really important, and the Stegadon has a lot of utility with the skink alpha d6 move ability.
Totally agreed. Now that eotg is 240 and trog is 140 can we talk about a trog leading tq or is eotg still just better? I’m not sure what role a trog would fill but 100 points is nice
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Mercenaries look really exciting. Glad Nighthaunt is getting an official entry into LoN since thats how most people were playing the models anyway. Looks like an exciting year for the game. I hope mercenaries are a core rule, I'd like to see less optional rules for tournaments. Especially when those optional rules could cost you around $500 in models that you would only sometimes play.
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@PJetski Awesome list. I run something similar. I have EOTG with -1 to be hit blade from ulgu. I use 8 razordons, I don't own any salamanders, but that actually sounds really awesome.
I run geminids in all my lists as well, totally agree on everything there. I've never tried knights as battleline in thunderquake, I like them Drac tail a lot. I like how the bases seem to zone deepstrike really well and they are fast. I don't run balewind because I try to keep my slann with the castle but you might be onto something there!
I too love the starpriest, another -1 to hit is just great, and the jaws are no slouch either.
I am going to try the balewind in a few games and see how it goes for me. Ever since adepticon I have been trying some evocators in the list. I like them a lot but I think the Salamanders solve the same problem better!
What is your opinion of the ripperdactyls? I have not run them in the list, I don't like rippers not starting in the sky personally. Do you find that you would summon more of them via eotg if you ran them? I thought that was an interesting play, but agree with you it isn't optimal.
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Assembling Wrath and Rapture and a start collecting. I'm fully aboard the excess wagon fellow revelers.
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@PJetski and others can we talk about the Adepticon list? I always try to bring an engine of the gods with my shadow strike lists because having a blot toad on the map is very strong with their summoning.
i never thought to reverse that scenario and bring rippers for a toad in a thunderquake. What is everyone’s opinion on rippers in a list like that? I generally run the list with 8 razordons and think it’s just stronger than the rippers but I never considered how impactful getting the toad down could be on late game play.
ive long thought of allying in evocators into my lists. I’ve done it in the past with shadow strike and it was ok. I could see it being better in thunderquake to protect the castle. I don’t think it’s our strongest thunderquake list but obviously it was strong enough to win. Maybe it is even closer to the optimal variant than I give it credit for.
what are other people’s thoughts here?
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I forgot to mention that, it is the best. I’ve lasered so many hero’s with eotg turn one thanks to it. I’ve never tried the teleport move! That’s a great idea.
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1 hour ago, Ravinsild said:
Man even Seraphon kind of sucks and looks old and they’re mostly plastic.
Well said but slight nit. Seraphon are far from mostly plastic.
Fine cast - Slann, Lord Kroak, Skink Starseer, Scar Veteran On Cold one, Saurus Eternity Warden, Saurus Astrolith Bearer, Saurus Sunblood, Chameleon Skinks, razordons, salamanders, kroxigor, skink priest with feathered cloak
plastic - stegadon, engine of the gods, skinks, knights, warriors, temple guard, skink star priest, ripperdactyls, terradon, both carnosaur heros, troglodon, bastiladon
We have 13 plastic units and 12 finecast units.
I thnk the best part of our range from a plastic perspective is how diverse the kits are. Like one kit for 2x carno and trog. A kit for stegadon (both varients + eotg). So we have that type of thing going for us.
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Man with every release being overly negative this year on this forum I feel like this community is going to have a really rough time. I am so amazed at what they have done this year and as a player of the game couldn’t be happier that they are supporting all the existing models, quickly. We can ****** all we want, and we do, every single release. But it’s not going to change the priority, making the game fun for every faction.
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Getting everyone new playable rules definitely seems to be the theme and that’s really cool!
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On 4/19/2019 at 6:17 AM, Luke1705 said:
I’m curious as to why the adepticon winning list had a Stegadon over a second bastiladon. What does the Stegadon do that’s better?
Cost less points and some high (3) rend melee I guess. I really like stegadons.
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Why does it not apply to regular tree revs? It should the ability says any unit with martial memories.
Martial Memories: Tree-Revenants are suffused with the echoes of their predecessors’ lives, and can draw on centuries of experience when they go to war.
At the start of the combat phase, roll a dice for each friendly unit with this ability that is within 3" of any enemy units. On a 3+ that unit fights at the start of thethe ability is called martial memories, that’s the key word as I see it.
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So while this unit is on the field tree revs get the fight at the beginning of battle round treatment? That looks super strong. Like an auto include.
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I totally disagree. I think these are tactics that separate good players from great players. This is no different from positioning units to allow them to pile in against a charge in the front ranks, pinning a horde so it can't pile in against you or any other number of movement mechanics. This is what makes AOS a table top game that is won on the table and not in the list building phase as so many believe.
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12 hours ago, Requizen said:
Depends on the setup. If the Terrorgheist is next to another unit, say some Horrors, you can charge the Horrors and only tag them with 1 Evocators, and then string the rest of the Evos in a line 3.1" away from the Terrorgheist. Now the TG is not eligible to pile in and attack (so skips the "start of combat phase" modifier for Gristlegore), and you pile in and attack with the Evos. Even though you aren't within 3" of the TG, he's still the closest model, so you pile in towards him and attack. Then you hit him with the MW jazz hands.
Alternatively, if you want to play a bit more risky, you can charge one unit and string just one Evocator to be 3.1" away from the TG, and then only pile in .2" and hit him with the jazz hands only while attacking the other unit, though this has the downside of potentially whiffing on the MW roll.
Oh for a minute I thought this was wrong because of the FAQ but I see what you are saying. Duck the fight first. Definitely solid advice but if it doesn't slay the tg it will attack back.
Q: Some abilities say that a unit fights at the start of the combat phase. What happens if that unit is not within 3" of the enemy, but later in the phase an enemy unit piles in to within 3" of it? A: A unit that can fight at the start of the combat phase but does not do so is allowed to fight normally during the combat phase should an enemy unit move to within 3" of it.
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Is GW testing the water to flesh stormcast out into color coded chapters?
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Dok tome will be around for a very long time
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1 hour ago, stus67 said:
So I just experienced 160 bloodreavers today. Not fun lol. Anvilstrike didn't stand a chance.
I think the same would be true for 160 plague monks... or any swamp list like that
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14 minutes ago, Erdemo86 said:
Are balistas without an ordinator worth it?
Thinking about playing 2 in my list.
Same question here. I don't know the math hammer worth of them all though it was posted in here a long time ago. In games I notice them doing about 2-3 wounds a round. Usually one will totally miss or roll very few attacks. I think its ok at best, but this is also just my feelings and I've only played a few games with 2 and without any support. I'd rather take a comet for 100 points to be quite honest.
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16 minutes ago, novakai said:
I expect it be the Nightvault Warband and the blackstone fortress expansion to happen first and then Killteam Elites expansion and the halfling bloodbowl team afterwards.
Slaanesh is probably going to start at the beginning of May right before Warhammer fest reveal what coming up next afterwards (probably revealing Looncurse, Sylvaneath BT, and the other Warcry warband).
This seems like a really grounded timeline, I agree.
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@Sagittarii Orientalis The Adepticon List went 5-0 which is far more important than placing which relies on soft scores. The list I am thinking was piloted by @Requizen
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Sorry if it has been posted but does anyone have the Stormcast raptor list that went 5-0 at adepticon?
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I mean anyone who wins an event that big with 5 majors has to roll hot. Even the best players. So hearing that some games has some insane rolls makes sense. If it didn’t someone else would have and podiumed. You need to roll good and play good. Like poker, flop good, play good, win.
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AoS 2 - Seraphon Discussion
in Seraphon
Posted · Edited by Future
@PJetski thinking of bringing thunderquake to a team event.
What’s your opinion on 3 ripperdactyls in case eotg turns up summoning? I like having the toad around but not sure it is worth 140 points? Not sure what I would do with the points instead, except maybe lore endless spells. Maybe cogs Incase I need to play a more summoning heavy game.Edit:
Decided against this and went with extra shooting instead. I decided with thunderquake you always need more bodies so I would most likely not summon 20 skinks if I had to summon.
Mortal Realm: Shyish
LEADERS
Slann Starmaster (260) - General - Command Trait : Great Rememberer - Artiefact : The Ragged Cloak - Spell : Stellar Tempest
Engine of the Gods (240) - Artefact : Ethereal Amulet
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)
Skink Starpriest (80) - Spell : Meteoric Convocation
UNITS
5 x Saurus Knights (80) - Lances
5 x Saurus Knights (80) - Lances
10 x Skinks (70) - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
3 x Skink Handlers (40)
Artillery
3 x Razordons (120)
3 x Salamanders (120)
BEHEMOTHS
Bastiladon (280) - Weapon : Solar Engine
Stegadon (200) - Weapon : Skystreak Bow
BATTALIONS
Thunderquake Starhost (120)
ENDLESS SPELLS / TERRAIN
Chronomantic Cogs (80)
Balewind Vortex (40)
Prismatic Palisade (30)
TOTAL: 2000/2000
EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 1
WOUNDS: 96
LEADERS: 4/6
BATTLELINES: 3 (3+)
BEHEMOTHS: 3/4
ARTILLERY: 2/4
ARTEFACTS: 2/2
ALLIES: 0/400