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Grashnak Blackhoof was cool, but I'm not really feeling this guy, maybe with a different paintjob...then again FW is such a hit or miss when it comes to star players. At least they have kept his original helmet, I guess that's a nice detail.

I feel the same. We have an offically supported game, and can buy the miniatures again. Not being a "main" game could potentialy have some benefits: Longer edition cycle, stable "meta", lack of FOMO releases....new miniatures are always nice, but even a slow pace in new releases may be a benefit, at least for our wallets. I'm ok with all of this.

The same guy that asked about an starter set says that TOW, at least, will have vanguard/stat collecting boxes. Considering those will consist in old minis, more than amortized, no reasons (beyond greedines) it can't be priced nicely, and still remain profitable for GW. That may compensate for the lack of an starter set. He also wrote that "rules will come in part as online resources for all armies as well as new books for the included factions in the setting." New books, obviously, doesn't equal army books for each single army, I'm thinking more in terms of compemdiums. Overall, this kinda confirms it's going to be a low effort project to stop other companies from profiting too much of WHF absence. Well, no reason we can't make the best out of it.

My vote is for Empire VS Orcs too, that seems the more believable rumour to me. Bretonia and TK are great to show that the old gang is back, but GW wants their starter boxes to sell like crazy, and I don't think they would trust two of the less popular armies to do the trick. No disrespect to the fans, both armies are cool and have great lore, but that was the state of things.

Oh, I still think they're cool, but that's almost all I know about dinosaurs nowadays*, while kids have an encyclopedic knowledge of all the species even if they can barely read. Its fascinating. It's soon to see if he will fall for this hobby, but his parents are geeks too, so prospects are good!. *That, and that dilophosaurus didn't really spit venom, a heartbreaking discovery that made me rethink everything I took for granted.

Whats tempting me are the new lizardmen. That they can do double duty is interesting: AoS isn't precisely big in my town, and I don't expect TOW to be neither, but being usable in both would increase their chances to be deployed on a table. They also happen to be gorgeous miniatures but without going barroque with the details, which combined with the fact that you can go with any wild paint scheme would make them realy fun to paint. For last, my nephew (as any five-years old I've ever meet) loves dinosaurs, and these may seduce him into ̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶a̶r̶k̶ ̶s̶i̶d̶e̶ ̶ the hobby. It's been really hard to come with reasons to not to buy at least a box of saurus.

Thanks, it's always cool to learn the name of another warhammer artist. I recommend to check his portfolio, the guy is really good:

Things that have been talked about in the Rumour thread and are worth mentioning here: I think it bodes well to see TOW there! Now I'm more confident about a release at the end of this year There's also this rumour shared by @Public Universal Duardin: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2023/04/old-world-rumors-battle-for-skull-pass.html?m=1

A bit dissapointed at the lack of Blood Bowl. Are they just going to release a team each year?. I understand it's a low priority as they can't milk it as much as other systems ( and alternative companies are well stablished), but still. Just a few star players doesn't cut it.

I think it's just a matter of being visually consistent. They won't use AoS models for photos in books or the initial promotional material, but they'll make easy to use them in terms of rules/base size. Your guess is as good as mine, but that's my bet.

About the skaven one: In theory, the Stormfiends were a latter creation during the End Times and shouldn't be on the Old World.But GW isn't past retconning stuff to sell more minis, so who knows. All the other stuff you mentioned is perfect, I think.

I'm sorry your experience around WFB sucked so much, @The Lost Sigmarite, I really do. But as entitled as you are to your hate, the Fantasy fans like me around here are probably not guilty of that and don't have to pay for it. As I perceive it, you are the one being toxic here, and breathing out the air out of the room with your strawmans and your disdain, if you really believe everyone is welcome in his branch of the hobby I'll politely ask you to reflect on your contributions on this thread, the one we have to share the joys and worries about the TOW project. I hope you don't feel atacked for this, as I really don't harbor any bad feelings toward you, but not gonna lie, I find your contributions here rather annoying.

Congratulations! I hope it will be the first of many more to come.

@Clan's Cynic already expressed what I would want to say much better than what the language barrier allows me to do, so I'll just add that I find the bashing of any of the games/communities equally eye-rolling, and leave it at here.

Dude, we got it. Fantasy fans are the worst. You can move on.

Bear in mind that after the lattest TOW article anyone trying to pass as a reliable rummour monger it's going to say something like that. That being said, Hastings also talked about a starter with Bretts and TK. and that was way before GW show the kits for those armies. Great news for fans of those factions, but none of those where big sellers, and GW seems to measure the interest on games for how well starters sets sell. It's a bit worrying. The increased base size would be great and confirm the cross compatibility, let's hope GW is sensible enough to do that.

If only. It's about time to release a new team.

Not saying the rumour is true, but I don't think the tech is a problem here. They had it in Fantasy too (ziggurats flew to the space, after all), just wasn't reflected in the miniatures.

You cant fall in love for a setting like when you were younger. When I read about the new aos factions, or recently about HH's legions,s I notice that, although I find many of them cool, I can't feel the awe, the "THIS must bemy faction" feeling I experienced when I discovered warhammer fantasy. And I realized that it isn't the fault of the setting, it's just that I've changed. Maybe your issue is the same?

Since this was being discussed in the Rumour thread.... I think the "proof" is not exactly strong, but it is believable because it makes sense. It would explain how GW plans to support so many armies and make it profitable (using them in both systems), and it would also explain the "conservative" releases we're seeing lately in AoS (looking at you, "snarlfangs"). It's still mere speculation, obviously, but we don0t have much more, and this is more juicy to chew than the warcom articles.

@Swamp Trogg I'm not familiar with the High Elves part of Island of Blood, but the skaven are probably the easiest to build and paint I've ever had. And as @Ogregut has said, just because it was overproduced doesn't mean it was a failue. The only thing I agree with you about Island of Blood is that it didn't expanded the playerbase, but it's unfair to expect it to do. If I need a much bigger inversion to properly play and players are harder than ever to come by, it doesn't matter how tempting a boxset is, most people won't bite. I hope this doesn't come as a personal attack, I was going to leave it at a confused emoji, but I hate how passive-agresive it feels

This probably doesn't count as news, but it is related to how the hobby is portrayed in media, and I don't know, youtube jus recomended me this and i though it was nice. https://youtu.be/ktOgyyS55IY

The update is here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/14/warhammer-the-old-world-orcs-bretonnians-tomb-kings-arrive/

Agreed. I think most of us are exited about playing battles again in the world of Warhammer Fantasy, but only feel ok about playing Warhammer Fantasy per se. I had fun with 8th edition, but games took forever. In fact, just deploying and picking up the casualties take longer than playing some other games (I played Skaven, so your mileage may vary!). Dunno about that, the last article we got about ToW seemed to imply that we're getting WFB 9th.

I didn't have that feeling but now I have that hope. The khornegors from the BB team look great!