XReN

We could discuss lists, hobbying, lore, transporting armies, there won't be an agreement and everything there is to say was already said. Move on.

You waste 3rd artefact since you only have 2 heroes and you also don't give your crawlers non of the buffs you could give them, Liege Kavalos can give them +1 attack and Soulmason rerolls hit rolls of 1

Re-looked at GMG review - it's 3 units

Nah, it's really good for the points and an ability to cover up all your battleline and support caster needs is perfect

They are required for 2 battalions and also the only flying melee unit in the army, so I'd have at least 2 with halberds

Looks pretty good, the only thing I'm going to change is I'll take 10 Mortek and Predator instead of 2nd unit of Kavalos riders

Right now I'm thinking that you can and that is increadibly powerfull

You missunderstood, @divineauthority asked about using it multiple times in one charge phase whille the article just mentiones it that you can retreat-charge every turn to benefit from this ability more

But now you don't have the endless spell and 80 points over the limit

Sorry mate, but you only have 1 out of required 3 battlelines, even if you split the Riders you'll still need to drop something to add 3rd BL unit.

@Scurvydog & @choocheelo you two mentioned 2 things I think might be a good competetive list Petrifex Elite with Arkhan and Aegis Immortal. With support from Aegis's Archai Arkhan can go whereever he wants and shower enemies with MWs by casting Nightmare Predator and both Curses - from the warscroll and from the Lore. From there you can take some Battlelines, Liege Kavalos and beef up Immortis to create a mighty fist of this army.

I'll probably buy the bulk of OBR units I want from second hands once a bunch of people lose interest and start selling everything in about 6 month. The same applies to Cities of Sigmar, I'm not prepared to spend that much money buying from GW since I already have 2 vast armies I can play with whille collecting other that I'm interested in.

That is a good suggestion, however it doesn't tell me how you envision playing OBR against shooting lists.

And I'll share some of my experience on the matter: For the last year I've been playing FEC against many different opponents and beat a lot of them. I've beat Skaven WLC-Acolites-Verminlord list, Anvilstrike list (but not proper one, my opponent has been using ballista drop alongside 9 longstrikes), 2 games at pair tournament against shooting skaven lists paired with melee forces, 2 games against BCR 3 thundertusks lists, 3 games against semi-shooting Seraphon summoning lists. And I've lost to shooting against ballista drop with old FEC battletome and against old Cunning Rukk.

Than be our guest and share your tips on how to pilot melee army against shooting list, but without Legion of Azgorh since no one plays it where I am

There is no way to engage a gunline properly without double turn, there is no re-roll charges available to deathriders, so I'll do what I always do when I win against shooting - I'll wait and take it to the jaw.

And I very much can throw Reaper away and not regret it, I've won games with way more crippled army than that

There can hardly be a situation in which I need to speed up deathriders, if I go first I'll just move them onto objectives, use Stalker's CA (because re-rollable run is better than flat 3") and finish my turn, waiting. If my opponent goes first I'll probably won't need speed burst anyway.

I don't need to leave anyone behind, he can just march behind Stalkers, if he dies - it's okay, that means opponent spent resources on killing him and not my fighting units.

He still has Look Out Sir, a 5++ death save and he can break the artefact to ignore lethal damage. And I'll stick to Stalkers for first playtest because with such low model count army I need all the speed

Yes, all of this is true, but I just wanted a caster for Lore spell and he was the only one to fit into point's limit. I also need a list that won't curb stomp my friends My initial idea was to take boneshaper with double heal artefact

Oh, it's Soulreaper actually

Going to make a list that is not Petrifex elite Liege-Kavalos - 200 general - Immortal Ruler (the 5+ death save one) artefact - Helm of the Overlord (the +1 to hit aura one) Soulreaper - 120 spell - Empowered Weapons artefact - Guardian something (the 5+ death save one) 5 Kavalos Deathriders - 180 swords 5 Kavalos Deathriders - 180 swords 3 Necropolis Stalkers - 200 Kavalos Lance - 120 Unfortunately boneshaper can't make it into the list as it will be mere 10 points over the limit and I don't feel like swaping 3 stalkers for 3rd Deathrider unit

I ran the math yesterday and they are actually about equal to stalkers in damage output when you take them in Petrifex for improved rend and use their ability to swing with shields 2nd time

To be sure - contact the TO and discuss it before you build your list.