The Red King
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44 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:
Since cover and obscuring both specify "behind or wholly on" does that mean they don't need to be wholly behind? What is behind? If one model from either unit has the terrain between them?
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1 hour ago, Chikout said:
Personally, I'd be surprised if they were. It feels like the time for cuts was the start of the edition. There is no old world army competing for models. I think you're safe until at least 5th edition. They only way they get removed before then is if we have new Aelves to replace them.
"It feels like the time for cuts was 2nd edition"
Sounds familiar.
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13 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:
The best thing that could happen. Allies doesn't make any sense and make books more hard to balance.
I get what you mean but "allies doesn't make any sense" out of context is hilarious WWII Axis propaganda lol
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2 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
If they wouldn't be making insane profits... it would be understandable.
"Number must go up" is not a sustainable business strategy. Many major retailers have come to the realization that there simply isn't any more money to squeeze out of people and have lowered prices. Meanwhile GW announced that not only is your investment no longer safe (we'll squat whatever we want) they are also asking you to pay more up front?
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1 hour ago, Vasshpit said:
It does feel a bit like a change that incentives more purchasing more so than usual and a soft punish for those who don't own.
However with spells being more like an actual unit and having unit stats then kitbashing and proxies have just become a lot more enticing.
Something they seem to have intentionally made difficult when they first released them with tons of base sizes being "use model" or whatever it says instead of using a normal base size which seems like it would have made a lot more sense for balance reasons.
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I've seen plenty of games we're a wizard didn't have anybody in range to cast anything and just throws an arcane bolt or something. Now if you don't buy endless spells "just in case" you're at a disadvantage. It's great you can kill them etc. Etc. But as Mutton pointed out having any free tactical tool is a huge plus. I mean take any spell that moves and you can use it to screen out teleports and the like. There's no downside we've seen.
I think we've all grumbled before about how free faction terrain can feel like a tax to play your army (especially for sylvaneth). This just feels like that but worse and harder to balance and also doesn't have the narrative win that made terrain worth it to me.
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59 minutes ago, BarakUrbaz said:
You can't mix and match endless spells from different lores, you will only need to buy a single box containing the one you need.
Until they nerf that one that was really good and buff a random one from a different set.
And to the rest my big complaint wasn't "khorne has no interaction with this" it was the fact these are a "free" bonus unit you are kneecapped for not buying.
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Did I miss something or these all "free" meaning you get a big handicap if you don't spend real money on whatever the best endless spell is?
And since it looks like they'll come in themed boxes we can expect one or two in each to be really good to force you to buy multiple kits you don't need just to be on a level playing field.
Also can't be certain but there's a real chance khorne can't ignore endless spells now because what would that rule look like?
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4 hours ago, Kronos said:
I’m Glad Companies like Punga keep the Forgotten and abandoned side of the hobby alive.
Ah punga. I have some truly excellent night runners from them but when I bought them at least it was such a gamble. Their customer service was like "yeah send the money to this random PayPal email and you'll get your minis eventually"
They were right and totally worth it but it felt risky lol.
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7 minutes ago, Vasshpit said:
Also...
Hmm, interesting...
Rachel Tongue, Games Workshop's current Chief Financial Officer, has sold roughly $875,000 of her share holdings in the firm, according to a share dealing notification Games Workshop published on Monday.
I'm no financial guru but that would traditionally be a bad sign yeah? I mean they're not allowed to trade based on inside knowledge so obviously they would never do that lol.
But maybe it's nothing?
Hmm on inspection. GW YTD, 6 month and even 1 month stock value is down. I'd love if this was backlash for Beasts of Chaos but A. It's probably just normal stock market stuff and B. It it was backlash it would be from the nerds who don't want to let cooties into their custodes.
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9 hours ago, Tonhel said:
@JerekKruger I would also bet on WoC getting a plastic set instead of Beastmen. A Chaos dragon would be perfect. But a plastic foot/mounted champions and sorcerer set would also be amazing. Even better if the champion and sorcerer set are seperate.
As a StD player in AoS, I am really looking forward what they will do with WoC Arcane journal. I certainly could see an expanded spell lore for the chaos gods. Tzeentch could have it's seperate spell lore like troll magic in O&G Arcane journal.
For beastmen a plastic Tuskgor/Razorgor chariot or centigor set would be great. But this is probably very unlikely.
Maybe, just maybe there were a couple of designs already finished for BoC in AoS, but were never put in production. If those were already designed they could release it for TOW, although this would be quite painful for the BoC players.
Wouldn't it be swell if we get kicked to ToW and then ignored there too.
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1 minute ago, ScionOfOssia said:
They may not have had a Big Stabba, but they DID have players.
I don't know how to type the "hype man yelling ohhhhhhh" in Goat noises but just mentally fill that in for me.
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Games workshops Instagram: "What's your favorite faction!"
Oopsie. That keeps going for every comment with more than 10 likes.
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4 minutes ago, Captaniser said:
They look great, wonderfully grim and positively dark. Now they've shown a remake for the stormcast and Skaven, and today a new unit for the lightning fellas, so next week we might see either official model reveal of the Ratling canon.
But I am left wondering what niche these Reclusians will fill, for at a glance I am not so sure what they will be able to do that the Praetors and Annihilators can't already do. The lore snippet makes them sound tanky and immune to most inhospitable effects, but can GW make them standout enough though?
Nope. Due to rules overlap we're going to also be discontinuing paladins* (idk any stormcast names)
* Feel free to proxy your minis but we won't allow them at our tournaments or stores which will inevitably translate to other stores not allowing them at their tournaments and then somehow also translate to a subset of the community acting like you're committing some grave sin by putting your filthy proxies on the table with their pure GW army built with GW brand superglue making it a total toss up on whether you'll be able to use your minis so why not just buy more?
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I mean on the one hand they look cool at a glance.
On the other they're just overly busy stormcast minis that look like good guy chaos lords and don't really live up to the hopes we had for ruination before they started showing us stuff.
Don't get me wrong they are neat but look at people's speculations before they showed off the ruination chamber and after. We're settling.
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1 hour ago, Sarouan said:
Oh I did experience consumer outrage very well. I left GW for a long time after how they treated Battle and went to other games / companies thinking grass was greener there.
Eh I don't intend to try any other games either. If I feel like it I'll proxy my guys and if I don't I just won't play any miniatures game. Either way I won't buy anything and I can't imagine I'll come I'll ever come to regret not spending money hah.
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48 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
With a bit of luck GW will listen to their community and in 5-6 years (based on their working timings) we will have a wave with diversity for CoS.
*Narrator* They did not.
In all seriousness though there is zero way for them to track the sale of potential diverse/integrated kits and we've seen that player wants have zero impact on their market strategy. I mean how would they even know people want it? It seems like they either aren't listening to fans online or are actively choosing to ignore them.
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41 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
Steelhems (Free Guilds) are just a part of the military machinery from the Cities of Sigmar. Maybe that one won't be too appealing, but we could have another branches with diversity. One that is very likely to come soon is the Ironweld Arsenal. Let's see what happens once we get that one.
Ironweld arsenal, if made up of dwarves and taken to an AoS level, seems like it would be quite close to the Kharadron. Yes I know they could make them suitably different but... will they?
On that note maybe people should just be clipping the cannons of arkanaut frigates to make great cannons or whatever they're called and call it ironweld?
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50 minutes ago, Sarouan said:
And you end up seeing what you actually do : putting a lot of money in something that's basically not worth the money it asks,
I already see this. It isn't emotion driving me to stop buying from this company. Relativistically I am under no delusion about how serious (or in this case not) this situation is, but my reaction to it is valid and I don't feel like telling people they'll get over it when they're older and wiser is helpful unless your goal is to shield GW from the consequences of their actions.
I don't think you haven't experienced what angry players are feeling. I just think you're not giving consumer outrage it's due credit. Every time we excuse bad business practices we invite bad business practices. I for one don't have any desire to get sucker punched again.
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6 hours ago, Sarouan said:
GW old miniatures get and how they plummet once GW sells them again. If anything, it's actually a gift to own an army that's not supported by GW anymore : its value suddenly skyrockets*.
I know you kind of address it on your subtext but:
"Actually you should thank the guy who ran over your dog because now you can maybe make a bunch of money off a kickstarter for his medical bills!"
Is just... it makes it easier because you're either having a laugh or just completely out of touch.
I didn't get into AoS to make money and compared to the time and energy people put into their armies the rate of return would be pennies on the hour.
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1 hour ago, BarakUrbaz said:
Yeah, a lot of the talk about which factions are "safe" kind of reminds me of this endless cycle I see mainly in 40k. A certain faction hasn't gotten any refreshes in a while, people constantly whine about how neglected they are, GW finally gets around to updating said faction, people move onto complaining about the next faction that hasn't gotten an update.
Its just that now since the always present "is this army going to get squatted" paranoia from AoS fans has been kicked into overdrive from the recent tragedies this has morphed into "any army that hasn't gotten sufficient updates is prime candidate for squatting". When Ogors and Fyreslayers get updated people are going to start to say that Kharadron and Idoneth will be on the chopping block.What a terrible state of affairs for GW to put its customers in.
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6 minutes ago, Grungnisson said:
2. Yes, and 1-2 is a fail. And do you know what's a quicker and simpler way of presenting it? By using D3.
Granted I understood the rule but as written "when you roll a d6 and it shows a 2 it isn't a 2+" is a bit... of a choice.
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34 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:
Counter charging is really strong, can totally swing combats and triggers relevant "on the charge" abilities like impact hits. Flying units can even charge over screens on reaction. 2 CP seems justified, IMO. At least relative to All Out Attack and the like.
As for shooting, if they forgot to remove mortals on hit again, I think that ability will eventually move to 2 CP, too. But maybe they actually cut that out of the game in their warscroll overhaul. Let's wait and see.
I don't think charging shouldn't cost 2 only that it should be the same as shooting.
31 minutes ago, Gaz Taylor said:Probably because Covering Fire can only target the closest visible unit and has -1 to hit rolls! Counter Charge is more powerful in my opinion as you can choose your target and doesn't have any negatives apart from if you are rubbish at rolling dice (like me!
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Overall, I quite like these changes. Adds a nice layer to the game and all seem useful. Can see Redeploy being used a lot to contest or capture last minute objectives!
"Gaz Taylor has quoted you. Oh ****** I finally said something too angry didn't I?" Lol
But yeah I agree it's strong. I just think they could have put the same limits on charging "closest target -1 inch" rather than double the cost.
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Why does charging cost twice as much as shooting when you already have a much shorter range and unreliable result?
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The 2024 Pricing Update Topic
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@Sarouan I'm not entirely sure what your stance is. On the one hand you seem legitimately concerned about the pricing crisis we face and as evidenced by calling it a capitalist crisis you seem to lay the blame in the proper place but then you go on to use the crisis caused by capitalist (anti consumer) policies and practices to justify more of those same practices.
It comes across as a very cynical darwinist view that these companies have created the terrible environment they live in but are now "forced" to do whatever is necessary to survive this helllscape of their own making.
Or am I being overly optimistic in your condemnation of capitalist practices?