The Red King

They make great minotaur.

I meant the "bow of loren" and "asyendi's bane" or whatever. The two magic weapon bows they have. They specifically say "counts as asrai longbow" (I presume so they work with their special arrows rule) so I assume if they wanted other magic items to count as hand weapons they would say so? I strongly dislike the whole "your unit only has a primal hatred of men (Foe render) if it's using a single basic hand weapon." I guess their emotional support great weapons calm them down? And everybody knows a man with two knives is supposed to be happy. (And the same applies to enscorcelled weapons, murderous, etc.)

Wood elf magical bows are specifically called out as Asrai longbow to interact with their arcane arrows rule or what have you so I'd assume no?

God I hope frenzy isn't as bad as people say considering my list is all bullgor/doombull/ghorgon and I'm a khorne player who will absolutely mark my beastmen up as soon as I'm allowed since they're all already painted red and brass.

1% is not a fact. That's a pretty disingenuous way of saying 33% chance of success against a one hit kill versus 50% chance of success. Yeah that's a 16% difference but it isn't 96% versus 80% it's literally the difference between "statistical anomaly" and "coin flip". Yes you're worse against small arms fire that will likely struggle to wound your tough 6 dragon to begin with but you're better (with pendant) against anything strength 6 or higher. Meaning if they have even a 50% of wounding you then you have a 50% chance of ignoring it without even factoring armor. Fine if you park your dragon within short range of a unit with mass poison shooting then yes you're worse off than a star dragon and I'm sorry the game doesn't prevent you from making bad decisions but in the real world where your tough 6 monster is mostly being threatened by cannons, great weapons, monsters and spells you'll be happy you're not a star dragon. Legitimate question with no malice or snark behind it. what do you THINK is going to happen to your black dragon? Mass poison? Small arms fire rolling statistical anomalies to wound? Bearing in mind that by the time you're in short range or melee you ought to have (ought to have is not a mathematical fact) caused 3 wounds considering the damage output and initiative of a dreadlord on dragon. Give us a real scenario to compare instead of the white box of math hammer. Most importantly (and again no snark). Do you have fun playing this game? I mean the variables of dice and positioning and people making mistakes etc. Etc. Do you enjoy this or would you rather compare spreadsheets and then shake hands and collect your win?

Okay fine but how long is it going to take your dreadlord on black dragon to inflict 3 wounds? And just going to keep ignoring the 4+ ward save from the amulet? Regen is nice and all but you can't take 2+ armor saves or 5+ regens against monster slayer insta kill attacks which are imo the biggest threat to a dragon. You know what you can take? Wards. And in most cases a 4+ ward which is mathematically much better than a 5+ regen on top of being negated by almost nothing (as opposed to regen which many many rules and spells ignore)

Meh. However it works armor of blood gives a 3+ save (after you kill 2 models) and a shield gives +1 so using just the dreadlords save you get a 2+ and have the dragons 3+ until you kill some (2? Models) plus the 5++/4++ seems fine to me.

I've heard a rumor that wood elf archer spam is broken? 😏

Armor of blood or a shield on the dreadlord + the full plate armor of a dragons scales? So not even a magic item. Even better than I thought. Plus the pendant gives a 5+ ward against everything AND a 4+ ward against anything strength 6 or higher. Which is huge because you'll need strength 6 or poison to reliable wound it.

I love that artwork but I hope that lady is okay lol.

It came out last week and I missed it? Now I'm really mad! Lol

So how often are they supposed to release battle scrolls again?

Had to go back and check you are in fact talking about the Dark Elves with the easiest access to a 2+ armor save dragon who can also get a 5+ ward against weak attacks and a 4+ ward against anything that could actually hurt him (pendant of Khaelith which btw is only 10 points more than the standard 5+ ward magic item that literally everyone is taking)

So if a wood elf character takes the bow of Loren (counts as an asrai longbow, number of shots equal to the attacks characteristic) and then takes the swiftshiver shard enchanted arrows for "Multiple shots (2)" does it make 2 shots for every attack it has on its profile?

I think I've got most of the high elf half of isle of blood sitting in a box (definitely minus the high mage) if you're interested PM me.

Anyone smarter than me explain what happens when a unit is joined by a character who has terror? The rule clearly states it doesn't make them immune to terror but do they still cause it when they declare a charge or get charged? If so is it the characters unit strength or the units? The book clearly says characters unit strength is added to the unit but it doesn't state vice versa for this particular example.

I've got an old isle of blood high elf on hippogryph that ought not be too hard to convert if you wanna stay tourney legal?

Zondaras. I recall seeing a vaguely beast of chaos looking rumor engine and being bummed when It was just the "bestial necromancers" staff.

The necromancer skull staff was maybe a rumor engine?

Kroot hounds incoming for sure (they were also on the cover of the book)

Firstly I love the project. Secondarily because I made a similar conversion before (using blood bowl skaven with Skitari bits) I have a mostly unused sprue of skitarri ruststalkers (I used the rat bodies and heads so it's missing some weapons and little tech bits) as well as plenty of IoB clan rats and id love to sell them to someone with a plan for them. If you're interested PM me. And I look forward to seeing what you do with all this!

Thank you! I thought I'd seen one but one reviewer said they weren't? I guess they missed a page!

I wonder what that means for beastmen. The only army to NOT get an army spread page with everyone else. Probably just forgot about us (or copium they're planning a big release for 2nd edition Old world in 5 years T_T)

Queek was amazing "what's a clouds... I bet I can kill it!" On top of him yes having an actual friend (technically a whole friend group if you count his semi psychic trophy rack). I may never get around to my skaven project of shame but if I do it will be to convert a queek verminlord warbringer and a unit of stormvermin "scartails".

This is about the same to me. I'm not in a position to replace my largest army all because GW wants them to look different. Edited before being qouted: That's not entirely true. A StD style update is not the same as being squatted even if I couldn't buy what I wanted right away. As long as it was StD style where you can get away with mostly old sculpts and not a COMPLETE removal of old models for new as suggested. As long as we exist in the lore in a meaningful way I'm happy I suppose but I will be more or less happy depending hah.