The Red King

If you count high elves (before they got replaced by lunineth which some might argue isn't a real replacement but that's not the point of this discussion) Or wanderers who were repackaged into AoS boxes and written about extensively in the lore and who as yet have no proper replacement. I grant you that no battle tome army has disappeared entirely.

With marauders getting the marauder treatment now, Skaven getting a big refresh for 4th edition, Chorfs being rumored and the 4 main armies due for an update at some point I think it's safe to say that BoC are probably not even in their 2-3 year design cycle. If they get squatted to be replaced it's likely to be a long time before they are actually replaced.

D-d-d-double post!

I just feel like it would be different if this wasn't the fifth time GW has chopped an army out from under me. Eldar corsair, combined arms eldar, wood elves, wanderers, and now beasts. I just can't drum up anymore enthusiasm to build, convert, paint, and pour my heart and time into coming up with lore and tactics and pouring over every scrap of information I can find.

I hate where beasts are at. I should be so psyched about these awesome models and already thinking where and how to convert them into beasts but instead I'm just sitting here thinking "did my army die for this?" And it's such a bummer. I really wish Whitefang would debunk or confirm the "beasts are leaving AoS" rumor because not knowing is ruining the hobby for me.

My biggest fear is they retire beasts to the old world and then fail to support the old world and it dies out.

Stones and fetishes, furs and leather and more simplistic weaponry and contempt for the dark powers they serve? I found where BoC faction identity went. I'm happy for people who wanted Darkoath but to see my army get deleted to make room for the same thing but human just to allow for a more relatable antagonist is... not a great feeling.

That didn't save beasts of chaos players T_T

Yeah Season of War is not my cup of tea. I find the voice over disconnected and usually think to myself "I would happily read this instead of watching it".

I literally watch every batllereport channel but I think my favorite for AoS is probably Battleshock wargaming? It used to be Rerolling ones but they basically disbanded as soon as I unknowingly moved to the same area as them which made me so sad because I met one of their guys at my LGS and was gonna be on a battle report and then the channe died right when I finished painting ny army T_T

And Whitefang specifically called out the rat God rumor as being wrong so...

Well sure but ogroids are just rat ogres etc. Etc. I'm just saying BoK doesn't have monstrous infantry not that they NEED it per se. But to be clear I'm in agreement that BoC doesn't seem to have any future and it looks like I'll probably be taking a long step back from AoS and maybe the hobby/company in general.

I agree with your last sentence but imo the room is in monstrous infantry. There's nothing between the 5 man skullreapers and the single unit khorgarath (think bullgor of khorne) in either mortals or demons that isn't cavalry. I also don't think God gors have to be elites. Pestigor could easily end up being a chaff horde for nurgle (like plaguewalkers in 40k) because nurgle really doesn't need more beefy elite infantry either.

But it isn't their rumour. It came from someone else and at this point anyone on the internet could guess they will or won't be updated and nobody could track down/blame whitefang for it.

I know beasts could be reimagined and I'd be happy but Whitefang has only hinted at removal. Nothing else. If he wants to tell us to be hopeful than yay but right now all I've heard is beasts are going away and stormcast are getting some guys with more skulls on their armor.

What really bothers me is that even with this massive billion dollar corporation the real reason they're going is that there isn't someone at GW who likes them enough. At least not anyone with sway. It seems like some armies are just some designers favorite and beasts are fittingly unloved by the fickle gods.

That is fair and something I hadn't considered. Thank you for that.

Whitefang never told us Slaanesh was going away though.

The "Era of the beast" has had so little to do with the realm of Ghur that the most notable thing to come out of it will be "the end of the Era of the beast" when BoC get unceremoniously melted down into primordial goop or whatever BS games workshop poops onto a single page of someone else's book for us.

The problem is that Whitefang has not given any credence to the thought that they ARE being reimagined or updated in any capacity. I'd be much less upset if they get the lumineth treatment but as far as I can tell we have NO reason to think that they're going to get anything but quietly shuffled off to specialist games for the next 20 or 30 years.

No need to be nervous. They're almost definitely going to get removed at some point so why not jump straight to outrage! (This is only half joking cause I'm bitter, but in all honesty having played wood elves I wouldn't spend much time and money expecting them to stick around. Buy em if you like em, plan to use them in ToW, or just have the money to burn but expect the worst and don't get burned). My entire attitude is the perfect example of why this is an absolute stupid move by GW. Can't reccomend anything but the newest release with any confidence because apparantly they'll just remove entire supported armies whenever they feel like it. Edit: But hey we can't complain because GW is going to launch their new Warhammer:paperweights so you're not allowed to be upset because your army is "still usable".

@Whitefang has pretty much confirmed that won't be the case in my mind. So goodbye AoS and probably GW as a whole. I'll miss it but I'm done with this company if they pull this ******.

I wish you were right and I hope you are but there's a nicer way to put that even if I think I would be a total phallic move if he was just making up the beasts rumor. I mean it's pretty much completely killed my interest in the AoS hobby.

Sorry they're waiting to update the app until after they release the battlescroll (probably actually true) and they can't update the battlescroll because they're implementing the changes from LVO which delayed them from updating it before LVO because... and so on so forth. To answer your question. They'll update the app when 4.0 launches (but not until after everybody gets their FAQs)

Now I just have to convince my wife to play a game with a 300 page rulebook...