Ironjaws 1,5 k brutes or ardboys?

[msdos]

Guys which list do you think would do better in a tournament:

Leaders
Orruk Megaboss (140)
Orruk Megaboss (140)
Orruk Warchanter (80)

Battleline
10 x Orruk Brutes (360)
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
10 x Orruk Brutes (360)

Battalions
Ironfist (60)

Total: 1500/2000
 

The megabosses stick close to the brutes, while gore grunts flank the army and try to get to big monsters or shooting units as fast as possible.

Or

Allegiance: Ironjawz

Leaders
Orruk Megaboss (140)
Orruk Warchanter (80)
Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)

Battleline
10 x Orruk Brutes (360)
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)
10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)

Battalions
Ironfist (60)

Total: 1480/2000
 

this is a more well rounded list with more models to grab objectives and less punch. At least with this list I can cast mystic shield on brutes.

 

[Lysandestolpe]

1 hour ago, msdos said:

Allegiance: Ironjawz

Leaders
Orruk Megaboss (140)
Orruk Warchanter (80)
Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)

Battleline
10 x Orruk Brutes (360)
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)
10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)

Battalions
Ironfist (60)

Total: 1480/2000
 

this is a more well rounded list with more models to grab objectives and less punch. At least with this list I can cast mystic shield on brutes.

 

This one,

Although I would do this:

Allegiance: Ironjawz

Leaders
Orruk Megaboss (140)
Orruk Warchanter (80)
Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)

Battleline
10 x Orruk Brutes (360)
 - Jagged Gore Hackas/ claw/smasha/x2 gore choppas/ general/ bellowing Tyrant
5 x Orruk Brutes (180)
 - Dual Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)
10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)

Battalions
Ironfist (60)

Total: 1480/2000

I cannot count how many times a unit of 5 brutes have over-performed by throwing them on flank and prevent a monster or a dirty unit from staying alive. They are underestimated compared due to the threat of the 10 man squad I think. Keep the Warchanter close to that squad and give them +1 hit rolls of they are not up against a monster. 

[msdos]

Thanks for the reply.

In my 1k point list my gore gruntas performed really well. Their 5" greater move than brutes really helped to get to heroes behind enemy lines . They have 1 more bravery than brutes and more wounds, which means that they dont flee when 1 gore gunta dies and i'm a bit worried that i can loose 5 brutes pretty fast without inspiring presence.

Also they look amazing

Btw, can I use a unit as a general?

[KnightFire]

Using a unit as the general - no, not any more. 

Gore Gruntas do look amazing, which is the only reason anyone takes them. Brutes can move plenty fast enough. I would do something similar to Lysandestolpe above, except just 1 unit of 10 aardboys and 2 units of 5 brutes.

Brutes put the jawz in ironjawz.

 

[Spinsane]

7 minutes ago, KnightFire said:

Using a unit as the general - no, not any more.

That's from GHB2?

[KnightFire]

6 minutes ago, Spinsane said:

That's from GHB2?

I saw it somewhere, but can't find it now. Maybe it was a tournament comp pack, in which case it may not apply.

 

[Tuluth]

The no "Unit Leader" as a general is from the SCGT comp pack, if I remember correctly. The official GW FAQ still says that you can.

That being said, because the SCGT is being used as a test bed for the GHB2, a lot of the community is starting to anticipate the loss of that particular General option.

[Spinsane]

I think I also read somewhere that some of the new Khorne Battalions or their Blood Tithe rules (can't remember which) required your general to be a Khorne Hero, which would be further indication that this might be incoming...