Tretch Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Hello gang, Got my second proper game next week against a guy I beat last week. I played his Devoted of Sigmar at 1k. Really good fun. I've been thinking of my next army list to crush what he may bring up against me. However I have a spare 100 points that I don't know what to do with. If you could check my list and see if there are any holes in my list. Verminus Clawpack 80 Tretch Craventail 100 Skaven Warlord 100Crown of conquest Arch-Warlock 140Crown of conquest Clanrats x10 60Swords Clanrats x10 60Swords Clanrats x40 240Spears Stormvermin x10 140 Warpfire thrower team x3 180 Stormfiends 300Warpfire thrower + Doom flayer + Drill/Ratling That's 1400 in total. I'm thinking a Plague Priest or some night runners to make up the last 100 points. Maybe there is something else I should use. What do you think? Any help would be greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I think I would drop a warpfire and instead take 10 stormvermin. A smart opponent will kill one+ for the bonus but they do get better when they outnumber your opponent. Personally try to use them in 30 rat squads if points allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Man that looks like a list I would run I ran one very similar in a tournament yesterday. I agree, beef up the Stormvermin. While people were scared of my WLC and Stormfiends, my Stormvermin did the work. They are vile with Tretch and Vermin must Clawpack. #onlythefilthful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 @Kramer I have to have at least 3 weapon teams for the Verminus Clawpack battlion. However I will beef up my Stormvermin. I only have 20 for now, so will plan to use this for 1.5 @Dez Oh it is filthy. Verminus Clawpack 80 Warlord 100 Tretch 100 Arch Warlock 140 20 Stormvermin 280 30 Clanrats 180 10 Clanrats 60 10 Clanrats 60 3 Warpfire Throwers 180 Stormfiends 300 1480. I really wanted to take a full unit of 40 Clanrats. However, think how I have the numbers with the Stormvermin. Ive decided to cut 10 clanrats for an Arch Warlock because I think he'd be more valuable at 1.5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 My list from Saturday's Tournament: Allegiance: ChaosLeadersArch Warlock (140)- General- Artefact: Crown of ConquestPackmaster Skweel Gnawtooth (100)- GeneralTretch Craventail (100)- GeneralSkaven Warlord (100)- General- Warpforged Blade- Artefact: Crown of ConquestBattleline 40 Clan Rats with Spears/Full Command 10 Clan Rats with Swords/Full Command 10 Clan Rats with Swords/Full Command 30 Stormvermin Shields/Full Command Warpfire Thrower Ratling Gun Ratling Gun War MachinesWarp Lightning Cannon (180)- GeneralBattalionsVerminus Clawpack (80)Total: 2000/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Your battleline has to be all of clan Eshin, because they are pretty good at the art of camouflage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 @scrollbuilderdude Battleline for Skaven isn't showing up in PDF copy and paste. Or maybe it is? So weird, I just tested it again and it worked. I noticed it after when I texted the list to myself. Board settings somehow? I don't know it's too late to start testing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 @Dez Your list looks great. How do you find the ratling guns compared to the warpfire thrower? I'm running all three warpfire throwers because I have those models. I know less flexibility, however I like their reliability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 i use the Ratling guns to take out heroes, and the WFT to defend my objectives and heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 @DezI like that idea. I haven't any ratling guns, so I will try and make the most of the WFT i have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I had an old metal one, and converted one easily from a WFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 @dez that looks nice! What part did you use for the actual Cannon. I'm going to have to scour my bits boXSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 An old Dark Angels upgrade sprue bit, the Assault Cannon for a Land Speeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathmaster Snikch Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Hi If you have 100 points free then consider giving the Arch Warlock a balewind vortex My general advice for the Clawpack would be to take 20 Stormvermin as they're your hard hitters or it's not really worth it in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 30 is even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 @Deathmaster Snikch How do I give an Arch Warlock a Balewind Vortex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It's in the FAQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 @Dez Was just looking at the FAQ and got distracted. Q: When selecting models for a warscroll battalion, do named characters count towards ther requirements? For example, in order to trake a Great Mooncaln, I need to take a Night Goblin Warboss. Does Skarsnik fulfill this requirements as he has the 'Night Goblin Warboss' keyword? A: Yes, they can be taken if they have appropriate keywords on their warscroll. Thus Skarsnik can be used as the Night Goblin Warboss of a Great Moonclan. So does this mean I could take Tretch Craventrail as part of the Verminus Clawpack because he has the Warlord keyword? This means he could use 'Gnash Gnaw on their Bones', and 'Hack Hack Slash Slash' too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I take the Warlord in addition to Tretch for the Immune to Battleshock. Definitely worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 @dez Its a shame that I'll lose the command trait if he is my General. I'll deal with the consequences and revel in the -2 rend of the Stormvermin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodapollo4 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 So, Tretch as the general, Warlord with the Crown, throw in the Verminus Clawpack. I haven't taken a named character as a General before, am I correct in thinking that you still get the Chaos allegiance ability but no additional command trail for Tretch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 You are correct @Goodapollo4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tretch Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Tonight my list got banged by some orruk savage arrer boyz. We played escalation (which was really NOT fun for a beginner), and although I did ok at the start with my varied unit options, his boyz were too much for everything I had to offer. He killed pretty much a whole unit of Stormvermin in one round (30 boyz shooting 3 shots each, twice!?), after killing my Arch Warlock in one round too.My 30 Clanrats got the most damage done, killing a unit of maniak boyz, however never packed a punch when it was time to fight the arrer boyz.Stormfiends tunnelled behind enemy lines and really distracted his savage melee boyz from advancing on the objective. In the end the Stormfiends flopped in combat and got banged (Warp Fire Thrower/Doom Flayer Gauntlets/Grinderfists).I leant a good lesson today. Those ****** armies (and players), whose one and only objective is to win, is the least coolest thing EVAAAR. I am a n00b, and I should focus more on HAVING FUN, using the coolest models, and taking a win sometimes.I look forward to sharing my experiences at becoming a better commander. I think I remembered most of my army's rules (which I was impressed with), but I really need to start remembering to use the chaos allegiance ability. Also placing units down could have been improved on my part.Shout outs to@Dez for dropping bombs of knowledge. I am@Tretch, so I'm going to work on Verminus armies that use him as the general. I have a Warp Lightning Cannon and a Screaming Bell to implement into my army. I'd also love to get Thanquol and Boneripper [emoji7]This Skaven Army is just getting started!Clan Craventail?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jharen Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 32 minutes ago, Tretch said: I leant a good lesson today. Those ****** armies (and players), whose one and only objective is to win, is the least coolest thing EVAAAR. I am a n00b, and I should focus more on HAVING FUN, using the coolest models, and taking a win sometimes. Different people play for different reasons and with different goals in mind. I don't mind a competitive game, and I'll run a competitive list against someone who also wants to do that. On the other hand I enjoy just fun throw down games too with lighter lists. I find most my games fall somewhere in the middle of those two extremes. If your local gaming community is very competitive you may have to adjust a bit in accordance if you want to get more games in, but it's also worth talking to people you play with - let them know what you like about the game and what you want out of it. Don't bash them for their style of play and hopefully they won't bash you for yours. Communicate with your community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 We are working on creating some diversity, because while we are a bunch of good people and want everyone to have a great game...we play hard. Smiling and laughing even while we are being trounced, and learning. Oh yes, the learning! The important thing though, is instead of just playing random pickup games every week we are dispersing it with Narrative Campaigns! Yes, the fluffy games are so much fun too! Glad you had a good learning experience. While that Arch Warlock is tough, you always want to remember the core Skaven ethos: Lead from the Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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